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#5826
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No. Your saves have broken flags if you played on console, where there are no mods. Your saves have broken flags if you played on PC completely vanilla, zero mods, too. The problem was in the game itself, not the mods. The DAO epilogue autosave could unset your approval/romance flags going off and several plot flags didn't set right, never triggering the corresponding slide. Then Awakening broke the whole save system for players who made the ultimate sacrifice by ditching their entire DAO playthrough, and sent forward a bunch of erroneous dead/alive flags for your companions. Then Witch Hunt could again unset your DAO flags and send them forward null. Then DA2 had several problems reading imported flags correctly and reacting to them with the proper triggers too, mangling whatever had survived the process so far.

Your saves are not healthy, no matter what you think. They have broken information no matter how clean you played, because it was the save system that was broken from the start. It was never about mods.

You crave the illusion of importing a tangible file instead of cloud data right now because that's what you're used to, but the second something in DAI didn't respond appropriately to a choice you made all the way back in DAO, you'd be tearing the devs down for never fixing the old save bugs. Well, they are fixing it. We complained about broken saves for years, they listened, and came up with a fix. This is something the devs are doing to help us have a better gaming experience with a franchise that unfornately had a lot of save data bugs from the start, it's not an evil plot to remove player agency or world reactivity from us via save game.

Just try to pull yourself out of the mental space where uploading a file is somehow the superior way of importing the data. In these games, it was not. The Keep will tabula rasa all the old save problems away, so the franchise can keep going without constant fear that if you breathe in the wrong direction, you've ruined three-four game's worth of plot choices and will never see the right consequences for them in your game because one silly flag unset itself without your knowlege four years ago.

 

nice, this :)

 

i'm just really wishing right now that the journals from previous games were more useful. I made a few playthroughs and dont remember every decision i made for each character - and the journal entries are both inexhaustive and inattentive to how some of the quests played out. 

 

that (rather large) problem aside, I like the Keep approach quite a bit.



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ya sometimes the journals can't be relied on.  Like every one of my Origins Journals says that I killed Isolde, when really I killed nobody.

 

Or that I wasn't able to get my Dwarf Noble's son into a house so he remained castless



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ya sometimes the journals can't be relied on.  Like every one of my Origins Journals says that I killed Isolde, when really I killed nobody.

 

Or that I wasn't able to get my Dwarf Noble's son into a house so he remained castless

 

I firmly believe that this is because the journal understands that Isolde needs to die. So it disregards the player's decision and kills her as soon as they leave Redcliff.

 

The Murder!Journal strikes again.

 

As to the Dwarf Noble's son, I can only assume that it was for the child's protection. If the child is casteless and unimportant, then he won't be killed. That way the journal can slowly build up a power base using Brother Burkel's new Chantry in Orzamarr(which is also set up, regardless of what the Warden decides). Once the journal accomplishes this, King Harrowmont or King Bhelan are ousted in favor of the young child, who has the best claim to the throne.

 

THE JOURNAL UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS BEST FOR THEDAS. DO NOT. QUESTION. THE JOURNAL.


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I firmly believe that this is because the journal understands that Isolde needs to die. So it disregards the player's decision and kills her as soon as they leave Redcliff.

 

The Murder!Journal strikes again.

 

The Journal is the hero Thedas deserves, but not the one it needs right now. ;)


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so any guesses on the release date? 



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so any guesses on the release date? 

 

Of the Keep right?  I just want to make sure...

 

If that's right, then my prediction is the week of October 26th.



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Of the Keep right?  I just want to make sure...

 

If that's right, then my prediction is the week of October 26th.

I would actually guess that they invite exponentially more people till around that date, to stress test the servers and such, and then officially release it.


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#5834
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Assuming I like this game, 5 keep imports will not be nearly enough.  I had a dozen imports ready to go for ME3.  



#5835
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You can delete and create new world states as often as you like.

#5836
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There's always hope for a larger limit.



#5837
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They did mention in the panel that they would continue to work on and improve the Keep post-launch, so there's hope that they will add more worldstate slots (maybe) and even other functionalities during the next months/years. Seriously, the Keep's going to be awesome. And we all know Bioware devs really do listen to fan feedback and the like, so if something's possible and there's a high enough demand for it, they'll probably look for a way to implement it in the game/Keep/etc. :)



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I can definitely attest to the flags being inaccurate. Even in game.

 

I made Isolde Queen on her own and Alistair apparently thinks he's King now anyway. Le sigh.

 

Fortunately the Keep will be able to fix this.


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I can definitely attest to the flags being inaccurate. Even in game.

 

I made Isolde Queen on her own and Alistair apparently thinks he's King now anyway. Le sigh.

 

Fortunately the Keep will be able to fix this.

You mean Anora is queen? Isolde is Connor's mom in Redcliffe.



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Yes, I meant Anora. Lmao.

 

I think we'd have a major issue if I put an Orlesian on the throne. Oops.


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Yes, I meant Anora. Lmao.

 

I think we'd have a major issue if I put an Orlesian on the throne. Oops.

 

Who is ziss man I must be married to, Tea'gan? Alistair? O, but 'e is just so filthy!


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So bioware if a game shop has a midnight lauch will that effect the keep lauch

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So bioware if a game shop has a midnight lauch will that effect the keep lauch

 

If I understand your question correctly... The Keep will be open to everyone before the game is released.



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Sorry if this question has been already asked,  but will we be able to customise our orlesian Gray Warden from Awakening in DAI (assuming that Hero of Ferelden is dead)?



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So bioware if a game shop has a midnight lauch will that effect the keep lauch

  

If I understand your question correctly... The Keep will be open to everyone before the game is released.


Right. The Keep should be open to everyone well before game release, so getting it at midnight wouldn't have any effect.

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 so there's hope that they will add more worldstate slots (maybe)

 

 

Of course there is hope for that. And with enough money, you'll get the super special hope package which lets you hope much better.



#5847
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Of course there is hope for that. And with enough money, you'll get the super special hope package which lets you hope much better.

 

I don't think they'll make you pay for it, though (a "more-than-5-worldstates-expansion" I mean, not the super special hope package :P). It's just that they said during the Montreal Comiccon Keep panel they were still trying the capacity/response time of the servers, that they had attained their objective but that they still had a few problems with some other things (they didn't reveal what exactly). So I'm just assuming that they're going for a stable, "safe" 5 worldstates based on their predictions of the demand and everything and that, post-launch, when they'll have most things figured out, they'll add some more. :)



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have a question for you guys  when i log on origin with the app i don't see the dlc i buy on dragon age origin could be a problem for importing the save to the keep i see only the dlc and all my success on the old social network but seeing them well for da2



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have a question for you guys  when i log on origin with the app i don't see the dlc i buy on dragon age origin could be a problem for importing the save to the keep i see only the dlc and all my success on the old social network but seeing them well for da2

 
You can't import anything into the Keep.
 
Knowing that, I don't think that this will be that much of a problem for you...  Or, alternatively, it will be a major problem for you.  I suppose It all depends on how you feel about that first sentence.



#5850
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k thx keep mean to create a new save so it could be good  if i miss something  i think at the beginning you could import your save at the end of the da2 and change thing  >> thx for the answer