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From what I remember from the video footage they released, it pauses right before a choice, shows all the options available, and once a choice is made, Varric  will continue to tell the story based on your chosen option. 

 

I believe said video is linked to the first post of this thread.

 

Edit: In case it isn't: https://www.youtube....h?v=3rNDZ0Ih3v0



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From what I remember from the video footage they released, it pauses right before a choice, shows all the options available, and once a choice is made, Varric  will continue to tell the story based on your chosen option. 

 

I believe said video is linked to the first post of this thread.

 

Edit: In case it isn't: https://www.youtube....h?v=3rNDZ0Ih3v0

 

It didn't pause by itself in that video - it kept playing and the person doing the presentation chose to interrupt it by clicking Edit Choice.



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Ah, you are right. Though, including an auto-pause feature would have been more convenient.



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So has a release date been announced I know they said before DAI is released but come on how about a date. 

 

Also 5 World States wouldnt be so bad if they were saved on your Origin account and you could just pick from a list of World States you created but having to Create,Delete & Recreate them is annoying as hell.



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Also 5 World States wouldnt be so bad if they were saved on your Origin account and you could just pick from a list of World States you created but having to Create,Delete & Recreate them is annoying as hell.

 

Well, either it is bad, or it is not. Can't be both at the same time, you have to decide. And having a limited number of World States pretty much forces you to delete and create a new one if you want more than that.

The thing is, that we don't know if our information about limited numbers is or better yet ever was accurate. 



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The Dragon Age wikia says "the Keep will scan the linked account to check for any pre-existing Wardens or Hawkes, but if there aren't any, there will be an option to select from a selection of pre-defined heroes."

 

The wording is probably wrong, because that reads as if there is not much freedom and customization in choosing previous heroes. Which, essentially, defeats the purpose of the Keep.

 

I think, by "pre-defined heroes", it means that the portrait of the heroes will be considered the "default". For reference in the Keep(Why the portrait is important, I dunno... But people are silly and seem to want some confirmation that their Warden/Hawke is used).  But even in the case of using a default portrait, there will probably be an option to say somewhere that your Warden/Hawke didn't actually look like that.  As of yet, there is nothing that indicates that a player cannot change the race/gender/class of your Warden(gender/class of Hawke).

 

I'm still a little confused about one thing. Does the animated sequence just guess your choices while allowing you to edit them?

 

I'm betting the animated sequence in Keep will initially follow Bioware's default canon, and the player can choose to edit them as each option passes.  Assuming, of course, the player starts with that instead of going to the Tapestry first.


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this is not neat!

 

i cannnot remember all my choices!

 

please allow me to import!

A. Too late for them to add import.

B. Even if they added an import the majority of the DAO flags are shed during the DA2 import. And a good number of the ones that are kept are borked up for one reason or another anyways (DLC being a major culprit). So you would not be getting those choices you can't remember anyways. This way you can get all of the choices despite prior technical flaws.

It didn't pause by itself in that video - it kept playing and the person doing the presentation chose to interrupt it by clicking Edit Choice.

I think that is because the choices had already been set in that world state, I'm betting if a choice hasn't been set yet, then the edit choice will be automatically triggered.

 

 

So has a release date been announced I know they said before DAI is released but come on how about a date. 

 

Currently we just know around a month before DAI release is the plan (which may or may not change). Nothing more concrete than that.


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I hope B-Ware opens the Keep up because the wait till Nov is brutal.

 

Off Topic:

And another thing B-Ware when are you gonna release the details on the rest of the Specializations come on already.



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is it November yet?


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As far as I know, from what the official trailer told me: The Keep will upload your characters from your persona page. This includes the choices you made in Origin. If you go look at the character that was uploaded to the BSN Network. There are several buttons above your character. If you click on STORY, then there is a scroll down window of all the choices you made in Origins, which will feature in the Keep if you want to, you just have to look through the warden you want to play and it will tell the Warden's story (Varric's voice actor) and you can choose if you still want the same options you had in Origins or change them for your world state for Inquisition. They'll do the same with Dragon Age 2. Basically nothing has been said about the appearance, though. Not yet anyway (but my memory sucks, lol). So we don't know if your Warden will look the same or not. Or if your Hawke looks the same as he/she did in Dragon Age 2. I think it was hinted at that it would be the same? 

Anyway, even if they use the default appearances, it's your world state you are implementing into Inquisition with your choices. :)



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As far as I know, from what the official trailer told me: The Keep will upload your characters from your persona page. This includes the choices you made in Origin. If you go look at the character that was uploaded to the BSN Network. There are several buttons above your character. If you click on STORY, then there is a scroll down window of all the choices you made in Origins, which will feature in the Keep if you want to, you just have to look through the warden you want to play and it will tell the Warden's story (Varric's voice actor) and you can choose if you still want the same options you had in Origins or change them for your world state for Inquisition. They'll do the same with Dragon Age 2. Basically nothing has been said about the appearance, though. Not yet anyway (but my memory sucks, lol). So we don't know if your Warden will look the same or not. Or if your Hawke looks the same as he/she did in Dragon Age 2. I think it was hinted at that it would be the same?

Anyway, even if they use the default appearances, it's your world state you are implementing into Inquisition with your choices. :)

Bzzt, wrong. Thanks for playing though. Here have a lovely gift basket. The correct answers are:
-importing a Warden or Hawke does not preselect any choices in the keep other than name, race, gender, class, and origin
-your character appearances (beyond a profile picture) will not be transfered for various reasons

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No, the Keep will not load the choices you made in Dragon Age Origins. I first assumed the same thing after watching the Keep video but BioWare actually confirmed it didn't load any of your decisions at all. All the Keep will load from BSN is race, background, gender, class, image file and it shows your achievements. However, it does not fill any of the choices in the Keep.

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No, the Keep will not load the choices you made in Dragon Age Origins. I first assumed the same thing after watching the Keep video but BioWare actually confirmed it didn't load any of your decisions at all. All the Keep will load from BSN is race, background, gender, class, image file and it shows your achievements. However, it does not fill any of the choices in the Keep.

That's what happens when you use an engine (FB3) that isn't centered around your game (DAI). If BioWare had made their own engine with DAI set goals in mind, save imports would still be a feature among other things. 



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That's what happens when you use an engine (FB3) that isn't centered around your game (DAI). If BioWare had made their own engine with DAI set goals in mind, save imports would still be a feature among other things.

...The engine change has nothing to do with the loss of imports. Imports were removed to make it easier for people to change systems and because they fubarred the imports from DAO to DA2 and they wanted to unfubar that situation.
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In the default setting do any of the companions die in origins/awakening/DA2.

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That's what happens when you use an engine (FB3) that isn't centered around your game (DAI). If BioWare had made their own engine with DAI set goals in mind, save imports would still be a feature among other things. 

Do you realize that 99% of all games are made with engines that other companies have made? Creating an engine is very time consuming and would have put DA:I set to release in 2016 or later. Personally I think it was a very good decision to use Frost Byte 3. It was the best engine available at the time. As far as importing goes the FB3 engine has nothing to do with that. The Engine is what makes the games graphics look nice. It doesn't have anything to do with the background processes like importing.


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In the default setting do any of the companions die in origins/awakening/DA2.

Don't know, probably. Doesn't matter



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In the default setting do any of the companions die in origins/awakening/DA2.

 

Shale is not recruited by the Warden(none of the DLCs are completed), and all other companions are recruited, save for Loghain.  I would assume that three companions die in Vigil's Keep since the Orlesian Warden, presumably, doesn't upgrade it.  But it's unknown which three that would be...   Although, one could say that it's Sigrun, Oghren, and Velanna, considering Anders, Justice, and Nathaniel are in DA2.

 

Of course, the Dalish Elf Warden who does the Ultimate Sacrifice in the DA2 default import is female, and it's been said that the default canon for Inquisition has a male Dalish Elf Warden(though, for the life of me, I can't recall where I heard that), so things may change with some of the details.



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In the default setting do any of the companions die in origins/awakening/DA2.

 

The DAI default is set up to have no loose ends, so they said anyone that can die, dies pretty much


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#5895
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Shale is not recruited by the Warden(none of the DLCs are completed), and all other companions are recruited, save for Loghain.  I would assume that three companions die in Vigil's Keep since the Orlesian Warden, presumably, doesn't upgrade it.  But it's unknown which three that would be...   Although, one could say that it's Sigrun, Oghren, and Velanna, considering Anders, Justice, and Nathaniel are in DA2.

 

 

 

You  state this as if its fact.. and contradict yourself while doing that.. none of the dlcs are completed yet three companions from the dlc die.



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You  state this as if its fact.. and contradict yourself while doing that.. none of the dlcs are completed yet three companions from the dlc die.

 

Awakening is not a DLC.  It's an expansion.  There is a difference between the two.

 

Edit: And you're right, I do state those options as facts.  Because they are the known choices made for an import into DA2 with a Default Dalish Elf that performed the Ultimite Sacrifice.  As the Dalish Elf performing the Ultimate Sacrifice is the known default canon for Dragon Age, it's not unreasonable to assume those choices shown in DA2 will be the same for Inquisition.

 

But it also should be pointed out that I do say that there is margin for error, because the default in DA2 is a female Dalish Elf.  And from what I've heard, the default canon for Inquisition is a male Dalish Elf(but, again, I can't recall where/when I heard this, just that it was a Male Dalish Elf(warrior, I think), and a Female mage Hawke).


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Awakening is not a DLC.  It's an expansion.  There is a difference between the two.

 

Edit: And you're right, I do state those options as facts.  Because they are the known choices made for an import into DA2 with a Default Dalish Elf that performed the Ultimite Sacrifice.  As the Dalish Elf performing the Ultimate Sacrifice is the known default canon for Dragon Age, it's not unreasonable to assume those choices shown in DA2 will be the same for Inquisition.

 

But it also should be pointed out that I do say that there is margin for error, because the default in DA2 is a female Dalish Elf.  And from what I've heard, the default canon for Inquisition is a male Dalish Elf(but, again, I can't recall where/when I heard this, just that it was a Male Dalish Elf(warrior, I think), and a Female mage Hawke).

 

Awakening is a DLC, It is content that is downloadable. So no there really isn't a difference in the two.  

 

and i guess when the keep is released we will find out if your opinions really are facts or not. 



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Do you realize that 99% of all games are made with engines that other companies have made? Creating an engine is very time consuming and would have put DA:I set to release in 2016 or later. Personally I think it was a very good decision to use Frost Byte 3. It was the best engine available at the time. As far as importing goes the FB3 engine has nothing to do with that. The Engine is what makes the games graphics look nice. It doesn't have anything to do with the background processes like importing.

There's a difference between licensing an engine & creating your own; both have there pros & cons. I'm not willing to argue the trivialities since my initial statement wasn't meant nor primed for that.

 

And as for what Ranadiel said, I'll have to disagree. 



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Awakening is a DLC, It is content that is downloadable. So no there really isn't a difference in the two.

 
I purchased Awakening on a disc from a retail store.  But you're right, Awakening is downloadable directly to a platform, as well.  But, I suppose that makes Dragon Age Origins, Dragon Age 2, and Dragon Age Inquisition just DLCs... You know, since they are all downloadable, too...
 
That last bit about the Dragon Age series was sarcasm(because it needed to be said).  "DLC" is primarily designated for content that can only be downloaded(barring an "ultimate edition" release).
 

and i guess when the keep is released we will find out if your opinions really are facts or not.


Yes, we will.  And I've never said otherwise.



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Awakening is a DLC, It is content that is downloadable. So no there really isn't a difference in the two.

and i guess when the keep is released we will find out if your opinions really are facts or not.


What does it matter to you about the facts of the worst playthrough? It's not as if you need to choose that option. The whole point of it is to have as little backstory as possible.