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#5901
AshenEndymion

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What does it matter about the facts of the worst playthrough? It's not as if you need to choose that option,

 

Considering the US Dalish Elf sides with Bhelen, I don't see how it could be construed as the worst playthrough.  I mean, sure she could have annulled the Circle and killed Alistair to make Thedas significantly better, but just because she didn't it means that it's "the worst playthrough"?....  That's just petty.



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Considering the US Dalish Elf sides with Bhelen, I don't see how it could be construed as the worst playthrough.  I mean, sure she could have annulled the Circle and killed Alistair to make Thedas significantly better, but just because she didn't it means that it's "the worst playthrough"?....  That's just petty.

well I mean in that not saving people and stuff.



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What does it matter to you about the facts of the worst playthrough? It's not as if you need to choose that option. The whole point of it is to have as little backstory as possible.

 

My point wasnt about what occurred during the playthrough, it was about someone stating their opinion as fact when it is just opinion. But i have gone OT enough with this so ill just leave it be.



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My point wasnt about what occurred during the playthrough, it was about someone stating their opinion as fact when it is just opinion. But i have gone OT enough with this so ill just leave it be.

 

Wait... Question.  Which part was opinion stated as fact?  Is it the part that says some of the results of a Dragon Age 2 imported Ultimate Sacrifice Dalish Elf default world state?  Or the part that says that said world state is probably what is in the import into Inquisition?

 

Because, the former is fact.  Not opinion.  And i don't say anywhere that the latter is fact...



#5905
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See if i were to answer your question on which point/ points you made were inaccurate i would be breaking the NDA i signed when i got to use the keep and tbh i dont really feel like doing that. 

So once again im out of this OT discussion.



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Bzzt, wrong. Thanks for playing though. Here have a lovely gift basket. The correct answers are:
-importing a Warden or Hawke does not preselect any choices in the keep other than name, race, gender, class, and origin
-your character appearances (beyond a profile picture) will not be transfered for various reasons

 

Ok, this is why I have refrained from posting in the past. People seem to be really rude if you post. Anyway, if you've seen the video (please watch it now), the decisions you made in Origins and Dragon Age II WILL be imported into the Keep. This is why at 4:11 in the video (the official video), look at the screen they are showing you. It mentions your RECORDS (in options 1 and 2) option 3 says REVIEW your story, which means it will show what decisions (or choices) you made in Origins and Dragon Age 2. It asks you to Sync your data. Then at 5:27 he says: If you did upload heroes in Dragon Age Origins and II, it will let you choose what hero you uploaded and then you can choose the way you want the STORY to be, as you go on, it will present DATA you did in Origins and you can CHOOSE, for example If you chose to save Connor, you can change the choice you made (edit choice) and the Keep will continue to show you the basic choices in Origins and Dragon Age  2 so that you can create your world/ customize your world state in Inquisition. 

What I meant by UPLOADING CHARACTERS is that you upload them to the BSN Network and I didn't say that they will be transfered. In fact I said that I didn't remember what the deal was. 

All in all, I was just saying that in order to shape your world state in Inquisition, they will take into consideration the choices you fill in the Keep. You choose your warden in 5:48 and from there you continue to choose your Hawke too. Then, in the middle of the screen a button appears which you can click on that says:

WATCH YOUR STORY at 6:35 

Then he says: 'The next thing we are going to show you is a brand new feature, that not even our beta keepers have seen, it's something we've been working on...' 
and at 6:58 to 7: he clearly says that this will take into account some of the decisions that you made - in essence when you finish everything you'll push the play button and you'll be able to go through all the decisions that you made and from there change them to fit the world state you want to create in Dragon Age: Inquisition. This is why I said that you make the choices along the way while you create your world state. 

It is IS something they are working at, though, so this is where I got the idea from. So I apologize if I wasn't clear but this is what I meant and I even asked the question and stated that I had a bad memory. 

 

Edited to add: So there is no need to be rude about it. 



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Still no import of your decision. Story isnt uploaded to bsn anyway.

 

They've confirmed its just the basic info.



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Ok, this is why I have refrained from posting in the past. People seem to be really rude if you post. Anyway, if you've seen the video (please watch it now), the decisions you made in Origins and Dragon Age II WILL be imported into the Keep. This is why at 4:11 in the video (the official video), look at the screen they are showing you. It mentions your RECORDS (in options 1 and 2) option 3 says REVIEW your story, which means it will show what decisions (or choices) you made in Origins and Dragon Age 2. It asks you to Sync your data. Then at 5:27 he says: If you did upload heroes in Dragon Age Origins and II, it will let you choose what hero you uploaded and then you can choose the way you want the STORY to be, as you go on, it will present DATA you did in Origins and you can CHOOSE, for example If you chose to save Connor, you can change the choice you made (edit choice) and the Keep will continue to show you the basic choices in Origins and Dragon Age 2 so that you can create your world/ customize your world state in Inquisition.

What I meant by UPLOADING CHARACTERS is that you upload them to the BSN Network and I didn't say that they will be transfered. In fact I said that I didn't remember what the deal was.

All in all, I was just saying that in order to shape your world state in Inquisition, they will take into consideration the choices you fill in the Keep. You choose your warden in 5:48 and from there you continue to choose your Hawke too. Then, in the middle of the screen a button appears which you can click on that says:

WATCH YOUR STORY at 6:35

Then he says: 'The next thing we are going to show you is a brand new feature, that not even our beta keepers have seen, it's something we've been working on...'
and at 6:58 to 7: he clearly says that this will take into account some of the decisions that you made - in essence when you finish everything you'll push the play button and you'll be able to go through all the decisions that you made and from there change them to fit the world state you want to create in Dragon Age: Inquisition. This is why I said that you make the choices along the way while you create your world state.

It is IS something they are working at, though, so this is where I got the idea from. So I apologize if I wasn't clear but this is what I meant and I even asked the question and stated that I had a bad memory.

Edited to add: So there is no need to be rude about it.

My apologies if I came off as rude. My intent was to be snarky to add some flavor to responding to a misconception that has been posted fairly frequently.

Now then, to go a little more in depth, after the video was posted, a Dev posted someplace clarifying what was imported. No story decisions are imported. I'd post a link, but I'm on my phone ATM. The reason that there were decisions already selected in the demonstration is because the presenter was working with a world state that had already been populated by someone else and not a blank one, not because your decisions in DAO are imported.

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FAQ in the op is the best place.



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Still no import of your decision. Story isnt uploaded to bsn anyway.

 

They've confirmed its just the basic info.

 

The story is uploaded into BSN. Where you have your PERSONA page where the wardens you uploaded are. If I click on my City elf, it will show a drop down window with the choices she made in the game. So there is a part where you can read your story on BSN NOT at the Keep. 
 

Ok then, why do you 'watch the story as it unfolds' at 7:49 (in the official video), for example, and you have the opportunity to change it (where you edit at the top left?) Unless this is a choice you made yourself in the Keep and NOT in Origins or Dragon Age 2, maybe! 

At any rate, I'm just giving an opinion and stating what I have where I uploaded my characters in Origins. I have a story. Not in Dragon Age 2, though. In Dragon Age 2 it's just Hawke and Achievements and the rest of the stuff you redeemed. 
 



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My apologies if I came off as rude. My intent was to be snarky to add some flavor to responding to a misconception that has been posted fairly frequently.

Now then, to go a little more in depth, after the video was posted, a Dev posted someplace clarifying what was imported. No story decisions are imported. I'd post a link, but I'm on my phone ATM. The reason that there were decisions already selected in the demonstration is because the presenter was working with a world state that had already been populated by someone else and not a blank one, not because your decisions in DAO are imported.

 

Apologies accepted. Sometimes snark works only with people you know, you know what I mean? Anyway, it's done. When the Keep is available to all of us, then maybe we can talk about this again, lol. It's pointless now.  :)



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The story is uploaded into BSN. Where you have your PERSONA page where the wardens you uploaded are. If I click on my City elf, it will show a drop down window with the choices she made in the game. So there is a part where you can read your story on BSN NOT at the Keep. 
 

Ok then, why do you 'watch the story as it unfolds' at 7:49 (in the official video), for example, and you have the opportunity to change it (where you edit at the top left?) Unless this is a choice you made yourself in the Keep and NOT in Origins or Dragon Age 2, maybe! 

At any rate, I'm just giving an opinion and stating what I have where I uploaded my characters in Origins. I have a story. Not in Dragon Age 2, though. In Dragon Age 2 it's just Hawke and Achievements and the rest of the stuff you redeemed. 
 

Choice you made in the keep. You watch it and change it if you dont like.



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Choice you made in the keep. You watch it and change it if you dont like.

 

Yes, but when you upload your Origins character to the BSN network, you have EVERYTHING about your character. Your character's story too! I never said it was uploaded into the Keep! I said you make your choices in the keep. The video at 7:49 however clearly shows a green check mark where you've made your decision. That's all. 

Exhausted. Mentally and emotionally. Over and out! 



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I don't want to import a Warden anyway. I'm going to go through the Keep and make each choice one by one from memory. That's going to be the most fun part of the keep for me. I guess it's because I'm a bit of a control freak when it comes to the little details.
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Yes, but when you upload your Origins character to the BSN network, you have EVERYTHING about your character. Your character's story too! I never said it was uploaded into the Keep! I said you make your choices in the keep. The video at 7:49 however clearly shows a green check mark where you've made your decision. That's all. 

Exhausted. Mentally and emotionally. Over and out! 

The story upload is flawed, it says I killed Isolde (although that can be easily fixed). The way the keep is now seems to be the easiest way of doing things.



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Of course it's flawed! This is why the Keep is being created if you want to play in a world state in Inquisition and don't want the default world state, you shape your world! 



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Ok then, why do you 'watch the story as it unfolds' at 7:49 (in the official video), for example, and you have the opportunity to change it (where you edit at the top left?) Unless this is a choice you made yourself in the Keep and NOT in Origins or Dragon Age 2, maybe!

Do you mean the part where it asks "Did the Warden help Redcliffe prepare/fight?"? If so the check you see could easily automatically show the first option as checked or show the check based on your previous decision in The Tapestry or it could be checked as "helped" based on the default canon. However, what we do know is that it is not checked based on the information of the story on BSN because they specifically told us so after the video came out. I also first assumed that the BSN information filled out some of the story until we were told otherwise.

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Dragon Age Keep @DragonAgeKeep  ·  Sep 3

To further clarify: It's just the 2D images of your Warden/Hawke that are uploaded to the Keep, as avatars for your heroes.



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No story data is imported:

Syncing of achievements and heroes does not need the save on your local machine. Allowing you to change between Xbox 360 / PS3 / PC / PS4 / Xbox One between Dragon Games is one of the major reasons we are doing the Keep the way we are.

It also seems that some people think we are syncing savegame data for your heroes, based on the videos; there's not been any change for that since the most recent FAQ, and we still don't have any direct importing of savegame plot data. You'll have to customize your world state whether your heroes are imported or not, unless you are happy with whatever the default is. What you can do is select which hero is in your world state, vs. the world state for your hero.



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There's a difference between licensing an engine & creating your own; both have there pros & cons. I'm not willing to argue the trivialities since my initial statement wasn't meant nor primed for that.

 

And as for what Ranadiel said, I'll have to disagree. 

Have you done any research on any of the engines. All they are, are graphics engines. Otherwise every game made with one engine would act and play the same, and they don't. As for Ranadiel, I read what he said and he is right. The  import system had so many holes in it, that it resembled Swiss Cheese, and thanks to Microsoft and Sony saves couldn't be transferred between consoles. A new solution needed to be created, the Keep is that solution. It fixes the Swiss cheese import system and allowed people to bring their story to a new console. Making a statement about them making the wrong choice in engine and should have made their own is exactly what you were going at. Sorry, but your statement is right there for everyone to see so.\/\/\/ So disagree if you want, but it still doesn't change the fact that your still wrong.

 

That's what happens when you use an engine (FB3) that isn't centered around your game (DAI). If BioWare had made their own engine with DAI set goals in mind, save imports would still be a feature among other things. 


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I think #dragonagekeep Keepers are about to make a lot of friends...
 
I hope that means more invites. Or keepers can invite people.

If #2 I will be all your friends.


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Fernando Melo @DiscoBabaloo
I think #dragonagekeep Keepers are about to make a lot of friends...
 
I hope that means more invites. Or keepers can invite people.

If #2 I will be all your friends.

Or it could be a lift of the NDA. That would definitely make you my friend because you would be able to let everyone know everything. :lol:

 

If it's #2, Please let me in! :P



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Noo, I couldnt bear the lift of a NDA all those photos and not being able to touch it :(


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NDA is still in place.



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The sooner the NDA is lifted the sooner everyone will be able to touch it. Can anyone say open beta!!!!!!!!! :lol:

 

Just hoping of course. Pretty sure that is not it.