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Shadelon

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Well there's time yet to play through everything again before Inquisition launches :P


My ps3 which had my saves died earlier this year. My da2 save was backed up to my ps plus cloud storage but not my dao save, because bioware in their infinite 'wisdom' (and I say that loosely) made dao saves copy protected. Luckily they learned from their mistakes but too little too late in the case of my saves.

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>.> It matters to me. I just know I'm going to get that nagging feeling that something isn't right and it's going to continue to bother me.

You'll get that feeling even if you get it right. So just accept it already. :P

My ps3 which had my saves died earlier this year. My da2 save was backed up to my ps plus cloud storage but not my dao save, because bioware in their infinite 'wisdom' (and I say that loosely) made dao saves copy protected. Luckily they learned from their mistakes but too little too late in the case of my saves.

....Umm I hate to be the one to break the bad news to you, but you can back up copy-protected saves to PS+...so you could have backed it up. o.o



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You'll get that feeling even if you get it right. So just accept it already. :P


....Umm I hate to be the one to break the bad news to you, but you can back up copy-protected saves to PS+...so you could have backed it up. o.o


No I couldn't. I tried. Didn't work.

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No I couldn't. I tried. Didn't work.

O.o Weird, I uploaded copy protected data for PS+ years ago when my first PS3 was dying. PS+ FAQ says it is possible as well.



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My ps3 which had my saves died earlier this year. My da2 save was backed up to my ps plus cloud storage but not my dao save, because bioware in their infinite 'wisdom' (and I say that loosely) made dao saves copy protected. Luckily they learned from their mistakes but too little too late in the case of my saves.

 

It's not your "game saves" that the Keep uses.  It's the DAO/DA2 information associated with your Origin ID (Achievements, Bonus Items) and some basic character data (Name, Gender, Class, Origin Story) stored on the legacy BioWare Social Network (BSN).  It won't matter if you ever "saved" a single game anywhere or not!



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It's not your "game saves" that the Keep uses.  It's the DAO/DA2 information associated with your Origin ID (Achievements, Bonus Items) and some basic character data (Name, Gender, Class, Origin Story) stored on the legacy BioWare Social Network (BSN).  It won't matter if you ever "saved" a single game anywhere or not!


You should really look at the context before jumping to conclusions. I was replying to someone suggesting I go back to my old saves to figure out my choices from four years ago.

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However I just realized that there IS a record of my choices from my game. At least some of them. My trophies (playstation achievements). Each one has a date stamp so I can figure out my original choices from that.

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I don't know if this has been answered but does this mean you can't directly import your saved games from DA1 and DA2 into DAI? If you can't that really sucks. What was the point of playing through both games if I can't use them for the third game? I really don't feel like having to fool around with this complicated Keep and try to remember all the choices I made. Besides I used mods so I could romance every character and even marry Anora with a female warden. I can guarantee that this Keep will not let you do this. I am very disappointed in Bioware if can't directly import my saved games. Does anyone else think this sucks?



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I don't know if this has been answered but does this mean you can't directly import your saved games from DA1 and DA2 into DAI? If you can't that really sucks. What was the point of playing through both games if I can't use them for the third game? I really don't feel like having to fool around with this complicated Keep and try to remember all the choices I made. Besides I used mods so I could romance every character and even marry Anora with a female warden. I can guarantee that this Keep will not let you do this. I am very disappointed in Bioware if can't directly import my saved games. Does anyone else think this sucks?


No direct importing has been known for a very long time. And regardless, your mods wouldn't import into the game anyway. No, the Keep does not support modded choices.

I don't think it sucks at all. I'm elated since I'm moving from a 360 to the XBOne - without the Keep I don't know how I'd be able to enjoy the worlds I've created. Old imports were bugged.

This is a much better option, IMO, for the long run.

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There's no reason why Bioware couldn't figure out how to import our saved games from the previous two games. I never had any bugs when I imported my saves from DA1 to the expansions and to DA2. What bugs were there? If they are going to do this Keep thing they need to make it a lot less complicated to use. Just reading other posts in this forum it sounds really hard to use.



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There's no reason why Bioware couldn't figure out how to import our saved games from the previous two games. I never had any bugs when I imported my saves from DA1 to the expansions and to DA2. What bugs were there? If they are going to do this Keep thing they need to make it a lot less complicated to use. Just reading other posts in this forum it sounds really hard to use.


Lots of people did have bugs, it's not all about you.
It's not remotely complicated to use.
The Keep allows for much more flexibility, now and in the future, for cross-platform world states, support for future games, media other than games, etc. etc.

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There's no reason why Bioware couldn't figure out how to import our saved games from the previous two games. I never had any bugs when I imported my saves from DA1 to the expansions and to DA2. What bugs were there? If they are going to do this Keep thing they need to make it a lot less complicated to use. Just reading other posts in this forum it sounds really hard to use.

 

Selecting tiles on a screen is difficult? 



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There's no reason why Bioware couldn't figure out how to import our saved games from the previous two games. I never had any bugs when I imported my saves from DA1 to the expansions and to DA2. What bugs were there? If they are going to do this Keep thing they need to make it a lot less complicated to use. Just reading other posts in this forum it sounds really hard to use.


The only real hard thing about it is trying to remember all your choices. It's just like a multiple choice thing. Pick a tile, it describes something from the game, you pick what you chose. Simple.

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There's no reason why Bioware couldn't figure out how to import our saved games from the previous two games. I never had any bugs when I imported my saves from DA1 to the expansions and to DA2. What bugs were there? If they are going to do this Keep thing they need to make it a lot less complicated to use. Just reading other posts in this forum it sounds really hard to use.

 

Tactical fight against High Dragon: Hard

Completing the Dragon Age Keep: Easy

 

(if any past DA player can't figure out Dragon Age Keep then they shouldn't play DAI - stick to Angry Birds...)  :D


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The point I'm trying to make is I shouldn't have to fool around with Dragon Age Keep because Bioware should have made it so you could directly import your saved games. Now I'm going to have to waste a lot of time fooling around with this stupid Keep and try to remember every choice I made. Also the saved game I have had my female warden romancing Morrigan and now I can't use my saved games at all. So what was the point of playing through it if I can't use them. It makes all the work I put into my games worthless.



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There's no reason why Bioware couldn't figure out how to import our saved games from the previous two games. I never had any bugs when I imported my saves from DA1 to the expansions and to DA2. What bugs were there? If they are going to do this Keep thing they need to make it a lot less complicated to use. Just reading other posts in this forum it sounds really hard to use.



The point I'm trying to make is I shouldn't have to fool around with Dragon Age Keep because Bioware should have made it so you could directly import your saved games. Now I'm going to have to waste a lot of time fooling around with this stupid Keep and try to remember every choice I made. Also the saved game I have had my female warden romancing Morrigan and now I can't use my saved games at all. So what was the point of playing through it if I can't use them. It makes all the work I put into my games worthless.


Again, since a female warden couldn't romance Morrigan in the game Bioware created, that wouldn't have been recognized even if you could do a direct import. Bioware only supports the vanilla game. They can't support all the mods users create, so there's really no reason to get bent out of shape about that.

Secondly, unless you have some knowledge about what it takes to create the direct import systems, it's really silly to say what a company should have or could have done. Why would you think they wouldn't have looked into direct import? Obviously, it's not a viable option. Throwing a temper tantrum about it doesn't change anything. How would you resolve getting my saves from one console to another?

You don't HAVE to fiddle with the Keep. You can use the default world if you'd like. The point of playing through the games was to enjoy them, I imagine. Right? They didn't know at the time they created those direct import wouldn't work, but they've still made the option of experiencing your decisions an option.

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BioWare couldn't make the save games work so they decided to tackle the issue once and for all with the Keep. This was simply the best they could do.

 

Also, even if you could do something with mods in previous games even if you could import your previous save games it is extremely doubtful that somehow DAI would even recognize the choices BioWare never even allowed you to make. Not to mention that if you could import altered save games it would likely be seen as a bugged save game because of overridden plot flags.

 

It is not BioWare's fault that you used mods. Even though mods were allowed it should and will likely never have any baring on the story of future games.


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I've been looking forward to using my saved games ever since I finished DA2 and I think I have a right to be mad when Bioware tells me I can't. Bioware didn't seem to have any problems importing the mass effect saves into mass effect 3 so there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do the same for dragon age.



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Mike laidlaw's stance on if something is easy

 

@User In general, if it were "really easy" assume that we would have done it. If ti wasn't done, it wasn't "really easy".



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I've been looking forward to using my saved games ever since I finished DA2 and I think I have a right to be mad when Bioware tells me I can't. Bioware didn't seem to have any problems importing the mass effect saves into mass effect 3 so there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do the same for dragon age.


Mass Effect games didn't come out on next gen consoles. Again, since you have zero knowledge of the time and resources it takes to figure something like that out, perhaps you should quit deciding what would/should happen.

There's no reason you can't take 20 minutes and recreate your world. What's the difference in doing it that way versus importing directly besides a small amount of time if the results are the same?
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I play both dragon age and mass effect on the pc. I'm sorry if I don't care about other versions of the game but I'm only worried about the pc version.



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I play both dragon age and mass effect on the pc. I'm sorry if I don't care about other versions of the game but I'm only worried about the pc version.


Well, thankfully Bioware seems to care about all versions and not just PC. They're a business, not a 12 year old.
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I play both dragon age and mass effect on the pc. I'm sorry if I don't care about other versions of the game but I'm only worried about the pc version.

 

You're also missing the big point of you can't import Modded choices anyway so....



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The point I'm trying to make is I shouldn't have to fool around with Dragon Age Keep because Bioware should have made it so you could directly import your saved games. Now I'm going to have to waste a lot of time fooling around with this stupid Keep and try to remember every choice I made. Also the saved game I have had my female warden romancing Morrigan and now I can't use my saved games at all. So what was the point of playing through it if I can't use them. It makes all the work I put into my games worthless.

 

I've been looking forward to using my saved games ever since I finished DA2 and I think I have a right to be mad when Bioware tells me I can't. Bioware didn't seem to have any problems importing the mass effect saves into mass effect 3 so there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do the same for dragon age.

 

Oh dear:

I'm sorry for the inconvenience of next-generation platforms which make save transfers cross-platform problematic.

I know you don't care about anyone else other than PC players - fortunately BioWare does.

Why waste your time? Pick the choices that matter to you, leave defaults for those that don't. It will only take a few minutes.

You want a modded save to be recognised in DAI? An unreasonable request.

You should have been having a good time playing DAO/2, that's hardly worthless and you can set your world state in the Keep.

Mass Effect 1/2/3 saves were on the same platform/generations. DAI is not.

The Keep is a good solution to the issues of multi-platforms and generations.


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There's no reason why Bioware couldn't figure out how to import our saved games from the previous two games. I never had any bugs when I imported my saves from DA1 to the expansions and to DA2. What bugs were there? If they are going to do this Keep thing they need to make it a lot less complicated to use. Just reading other posts in this forum it sounds really hard to use.

 

Let me add to those piling ridicule on the above assertions.  The poster has no idea at all what the reasons were that this would not be possible.  And has obviously never developed a game, much less a follow-on game, in her/his life (and I seriously doubt if s/he's ever ever coded a working program.)

 

There were reasons this wasn't going to be possible in DA:I just because of the problems already created in going from DAO to DA2, (previous choices not accurately reflected, or even saved. etc.)  So going into the NextGen game (not to mention NextGen platforms) with "direct save imports" was already impossible.

 

Sheesh... How many times do BioWare (or the players in the Forums) have to explain this?!?