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#7401
CosmicGnosis

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Load the save in game & read the choices but recognise that the game did not record some properly

There is no save game import. Look at the title

I know there is no save import for Inquisition. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm referring to importing an Origins file into Dragon Age II.

 

I don't think the journal covers everything, but I guess I'll just have to live with some ambiguity. 



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Maybe somebody can help me with this:

 

When I log into the Keep website with my Origin account, for some reason it comes up with the correct email address (as expected) but the "username" is my Xbox login for some bizarre reason, not my Origin name.

 

Seeing as I am using the correct email address, this won't likely be an issue will it? I am getting Inquisition on the PS4 (but I played Origins and DAII on the Xbox 360 which is the account they are linked to).

 

No, it should not be a problem as that is one of the reasons for the Keep, transfer of saves even between a PS3 and a PS4 is difficult (GTA5 got special permission to do it for those who rebuy the game on the new consoles, but they can only do it once per player... and even that they had to get some serious special permission from Microsoft and Sony to let them transfer your saves between the 360 and the PS4 or the PS3 and the XboxOne.)



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I know there is no save import for Inquisition. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm referring to importing an Origins file into Dragon Age II.

 

I don't think the journal covers everything, but I guess I'll just have to live with some ambiguity. 

 

Well, yes it imports everything, but there were bugs... and the journal was bugged also, the codex about what happened in the Fifth Blight ends up cut off after the first year even when you get the new entries, they don't actually add to your codex.  DA2 imports had serious issues with bugs, unless you knew the workarounds... which is part of why they are going with the Keep method instead of importing the bugged saves.  Look over my past posts, I've mentioned the worst offending bugs many times in the course of this thread.  Best example is what I call the "babysitter bug" where anyone that was not with you in the fight with Mother is flagged as dead.  So, the one that matters most to is Nathaniel.  If you didn't take him with you to fight Mother, he's dead. Every single time.  Happens with everyone else too, but Nathaniel is the only one that being dead really matters (outside of some funny dialogue if Anders and Nathaniel meet up with Anders flagged as dead) to DA2.


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Well, yes it imports everything, but there were bugs... and the journal was bugged also, the codex about what happened in the Fifth Blight ends up cut off after the first year even when you get the new entries, they don't actually add to your codex.  DA2 imports had serious issues with bugs, unless you knew the workarounds... which is part of why they are going with the Keep method instead of importing the bugged saves.  Look over my past posts, I've mentioned the worst offending bugs many times in the course of this thread.  Best example is what I call the "babysitter bug" where anyone that was not with you in the fight with Mother is flagged as dead.  So, the one that matters most to is Nathaniel.  If you didn't take him with you to fight Mother, he's dead. Every single time.  Happens with everyone else too, but Nathaniel is the only one that being dead really matters (outside of some funny dialogue if Anders and Nathaniel meet up with Anders flagged as dead) to DA2.

Are there any unofficial patches that fix these bugs? It's annoying that the first two games of the franchise will forever suffer from these problems...



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Are there any unofficial patches that fix these bugs? It's annoying that the first two games of the franchise will forever suffer from these problems...

 

On PC you can download this mod to fix the import bugs. I think that's the one I've got installed on my computer, and it works well enough.



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I haven't been able to get the video summary to work. Is this a sitewide issue, or is there something I'm doing wrong? Do you have to click the lock in addition to accepting each individual choice before it will correctly compile that?



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No need to "Lock" anything.

 

Just select the world-state you want, then click the "Play" button (right-pointing-arrow-in-a-circle) to hear your story,

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I know there is no save import for Inquisition. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm referring to importing an Origins file into Dragon Age II.

 

I don't think the journal covers everything, but I guess I'll just have to live with some ambiguity. 

Oh right. My mistake. Should have asked this in the DA:2 forum rather than inquistion.

 

There's no way to tell other then reading in-game. When you choose a save I think it does say your major choices.



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On PC you can download this mod to fix the import bugs. I think that's the one I've got installed on my computer, and it works well enough.

wow I wish I knew this existed when I played DA2 earlier this year



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I haven't been able to get the video summary to work. Is this a sitewide issue, or is there something I'm doing wrong? Do you have to click the lock in addition to accepting each individual choice before it will correctly compile that?

It's really finicky. I haven't been able to watch it either. PS4 or Safari (i-Phone 4). And the last gen browsers aren't supported. I got it to play once on the phone for a little bit before it had an error, and none since.



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Works best in Chrome. Firefox is the next one it works best in, I got it to work 100% there instead of chrome when they first released it, it was super buggy. Make sure to give a feedback with your browser and type platform so they can test it. You may want to clear your cache and history and retry the story mode (ISS).


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Hey guys. I have a question about DA:O saves. Is there a way for me to look at all the choices I made in a specific save? There is a save that I want to import into Dragon Age II, but I can't remember all the small choices I made. And of course, the Keep only applies to Inquisition, so it can't help me here.

 

I know there is no save import for Inquisition. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm referring to importing an Origins file into Dragon Age II.
 
I don't think the journal covers everything, but I guess I'll just have to live with some ambiguity.


This depends on which choices you are concerned about. There are a limited amount of choices that are reflected in DA2. You can see them by looking at the DA2 preset options here.

As far as I can tell the list is as follows:
* Dalish vs werewolves (alternating quest for each)
* Behlen crowned king (no quest for Harrowmont)
* Allowed Genitivi to live and reveal the Ashes
* Alistair or Anora rule Ferelden (alternate quest for each)
* Alistair fate as king, Warden, or drunk
* Shale recruited and lives
* Warden's Keep Avernus vs Sophia (alternate quest for each)
* Amaranthine vs Vigil's Keep (alternate quest for each)
* Nathaniel Warden and lives vs not (alternate quest for each)
* Zevran is alive

There are romance flags that are called on, some of which are buggy. Alistair, Leliana, and Zevran romances are (supposed to be) referred to in minor ways.

The codex entries A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vols. One and Two reference some events. Unfortunately volume two is bugged and is only partly complete.

 

If you import a mage Warden there is a dialog reference to that in a couple of places.

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As far as I know the above is all of the results of importing your DAO save. I don't know what "little choices" you are concerned about, but there is a chance it's not referenced anyway.



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I wonder why they don't have the Kings/Queens boon choice in Keep? As the release the Circle of Magi one is referenced in DA2 and it would be quite a choice that would have some impact on DA:I considering it mostly takes place in Fereldan and Orlais.



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Are there any unofficial patches that fix these bugs? It's annoying that the first two games of the franchise will forever suffer from these problems...

 

 

On PC you can download this mod to fix the import bugs. I think that's the one I've got installed on my computer, and it works well enough.

 

 

wow I wish I knew this existed when I played DA2 earlier this year

 

Well, as long as you have at least 1.03 version of DA2, you don't need that mod.   That also only fixes the problems in how things are imported... it the flag is wrong in the save file, it's wrong and neither that mod nor the patch will fix it.  You need to fix the first game and prevent the save file from being wrong in the first place. Like the Morrigan Romance bug you need to get the Morrigan Restoration Pack  which prevents your romance with Morrigan from being canceled when she leaves, and also adds back in a few dialogues that were removed or never finished, including one of my favorites, the author created a scene that all the dialogue existed but Bioware never animated the scene, so she did.  It lets you betray Morrigan at the end of Broken Circle, and when the Templars try to take her into custody she runs (the author has her blast them with a fireball, then turn into a dog (same dog she turns into if you refuse the dark ritual) and run away)  IT also allows you to take her with you to fight Flemeth, at which point she gets mad and you lose approval and have to go back to camp to get rid of her (again, the dialogue was there, the scene was just never done)  It's generally a fun mod for those little tweaks, though I never did those extra scenes without saving first and reloading.  Don't want to betray Morrigan lol  But, even if you don't get it for the extra scenes, get it for the romance fix so you don't have to remember to do the workaround.

 

 

As for Nathaniel, just BABYSIT him.  Make sure you have him with you when you fight Mother.  He's the only character that matters in DA2 (since Anders returns no matter what, though the dialogue between him and Nathaniel if Anders is dead is pretty funny... Anders basically uses a common "you're racist" argument against him, though in his case it's more "you're classist" lol IF Anders died in Awakening That's a YouTube video of Anders talking to STroud and Nathaniel about why he's not dead ), so as long as you keep him with you, he will not get flagged as dead.


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I wonder why they don't have the Kings/Queens boon choice in Keep? As the release the Circle of Magi one is referenced in DA2 and it would be quite a choice that would have some impact on DA:I considering it mostly takes place in Fereldan and Orlais.

Because the boons range from pointless because it happens anyways to haha no. Circle boon falling into the latter. Basically view it as being retconned away.

Plus DAO end game flags make our Lord Justin, bless his soul, cry. You don't want sacred tears flooding Thedas do you?
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Because the boons range from pointless because it happens anyways to haha no. Circle boon falling into the latter. Basically view it as being retconned away.

Plus DAO end game flags make our Lord Justin, bless his soul, cry. You don't want sacred tears flooding Thedas do you?

 

It isn't that it gets retconned, the mage boon DOES matter in DA2.  If your warden was a mage and you put Alistair on the throne, he will mention during the "King Alistair" quest when he visits Kirkwall, how he DID declare mages free, but Meredith is rippin' him a new one about it....  So, mages in Ferelden ARE more free than everywhere else in Thedas, but the chantry wouldn't let him fully do what he promised unless he wanted an Exalted March to be called on Ferelden.  The video I linked shows ALL options for the boons, Alistair talking about them. Check it out.  Most of them Alistair TRIED to keep the boons, but he's just one man, yes a King, but still just one man.


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It isn't that it gets retconned, the mage boon DOES matter in DA2. If your warden was a mage and you put Alistair on the throne, he will mention during the "King Alistair" quest when he visits Kirkwall, how he DID declare mages free, but Meredith is rippin' him a new one about it.... So, mages in Ferelden ARE more free than everywhere else in Thedas, but the chantry wouldn't let him fully do what he promised unless he wanted an Exalted March to be called on Ferelden. The video I linked shows ALL options for the boons, Alistair talking about them. Check it out. Most of them Alistair TRIED to keep the boons, but he's just one man, yes a King, but still just one man.

You might be right that retconned is the wrong word as I don't recall what the epilogue slides said so the depiction in DA2 might have been keeping with the slides. However, the boon doesn't result in much of anything due to the Chantry saying no. So the devs really seem to just be sweeping the whole boon choice under the rug since it can't have scope that it at least seems it should due to development budgets and such.

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You might be right that retconned is the wrong word as I don't recall what the epilogue slides said so the depiction in DA2 might have been keeping with the slides. However, the boon doesn't result in much of anything due to the Chantry saying no. So the devs really seem to just be sweeping the whole boon choice under the rug since it can't have scope that it at least seems it should due to development budgets and such.

 

Again, I don't think it's development budgets, I think it's that the story is meant to be the mage vs. templars war.  So, yes Alistair made that promise, he tried and then the Chantry told him NO and so that will more than likely be a factor in the war.  Look The Chantry thinks they are so powerful, they can tell a KING no? What is this bull****?  Then the other boons, again Alistair tried but other factors made it easier said then done.  So it's not that they are sweeping anything under the rug, it's that they have already in DA2 and more than likely in DA3 also reasons why those promises failed to work out, but I do very much believe the fact that they were made will be mentioned and influence the story.

 

As for the epilogue slides, they HAVE said that epilogue slides have and will be retconned.   Note how DA2 had no "epilogue slides."  Basically, that was something they did with the original game before they even knew if it would sell well enough to be a sequel.  All those decisions still matter in that those that affect DAI (and some really popular ones that have no effect on DAI) are in the Keep, if in the future there is a DA4 or a DA5 and they think of something from a previous game that they want to incorporate, they can add it to the Keep then.  They can even add stuff that didn't matter previously if they want!



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So, only to confirm 100%: we will only be able to import the world state and plot lines from the keep and not from the saved files from the two previous games?



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So, only to confirm 100%: we will only be able to import the world state and plot lines from the keep and not from the saved files from the two previous games?

 

Into Inquisition?  Correct.  You will only be able to import into Inquisition via the Keep.


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Into Inquisition?  Correct.  You will only be able to import into Inquisition via the Keep.

Thank you. I was trying not to replay DA2 (I really don't enjoy the second one very much) and now I will focus my attention on other games until DA:I release. Probably Brutal Legend



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After playing around with it I personally think this is a far better method than importing save games......



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After playing around with it I personally think this is a far better method than importing save games......

I also agree. It's such a pain to play DA2 all over agai. The atmosphere and story is nice, but the gameplay and dungeons turn the game into a repetitive mess. Just my opinion


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I also agree. It's such a pain to play DA2 all over agai. The atmosphere and story is nice, but the gameplay and dungeons turn the game into a repetitive mess. Just my opinion

 

Yeah, while I did enjoy DA2, every time I saw the same map just areas blocked off, it was the one thing that made me go "arrrrrgh" if they had just not been lazy like that, I think for me and many others, we wouldn't hate DA2 nearly as much, if at all.



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Yeah, while I did enjoy DA2, every time I saw the same map just areas blocked off, it was the one thing that made me go "arrrrrgh" if they had just not been lazy like that, I think for me and many others, we wouldn't hate DA2 nearly as much, if at all.

Exactly. It's the same maps over and over again, with two or three exceptions. This creates a very boring experience, to play it all (if you like to do all side quests). It's a relief we will be able to use to keep to create our world states and save us time.

 

I will certainly play DA:O again and again, but not DA2. Maybe once a year


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