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[Starscream723]

Angrywolves wrote...

I never killed Leliana.
Don't understand why some people enjoy killing their party members.

It's not unreasonable that in the name of choice, many people had a character that chose to defile the Urn of Sacred Ashes (in addition to a character who didn't).

It's therefore not unreasonable that, if their Warden was not a rogue, they may have had Leliana with them at the time to unlock chests etc.

It's therefore not unreasonable that a number of characters were attacked by Leliana and forced to kill her in self defence.

[Sol Downer]

Starscream723 wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

I never killed Leliana.
Don't understand why some people enjoy killing their party members.

It's not unreasonable that in the name of choice, many people had a character that chose to defile the Urn of Sacred Ashes (in addition to a character who didn't).

It's therefore not unreasonable that, if their Warden was not a rogue, they may have had Leliana with them at the time to unlock chests etc.

It's therefore not unreasonable that a number of characters were attacked by Leliana and forced to kill her in self defence.

Yet 99.9% of all BSN somehow took her head off and relished in that fact. I think most of BSN are honestly just sadists.

[kinderschlager]

Ultimashade wrote...

Starscream723 wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

I never killed Leliana.
Don't understand why some people enjoy killing their party members.

It's not unreasonable that in the name of choice, many people had a character that chose to defile the Urn of Sacred Ashes (in addition to a character who didn't).

It's therefore not unreasonable that, if their Warden was not a rogue, they may have had Leliana with them at the time to unlock chests etc.

It's therefore not unreasonable that a number of characters were attacked by Leliana and forced to kill her in self defence.

Yet 99.9% of all BSN somehow took her head off and relished in that fact. I think most of BSN are honestly just sadists.

yup. have sex in the foursome, then lop head off as you taint ashes.

her coming back is still annoying, i definetly want my OGB, if they make one choice irrelavant, why not make another?

[Deadmac]

AlexJK wrote...

Deadmac wrote...
Regardless about what BioWare may promise, I do not trust them with that kind of power. We just learned that several software and service companies have been helping the NSA. Sony, Microsoft, EA, Google, etc... Since I do not know BioWare personally, I cannot and will not trust them with my information.

Tin foil hats out, everyone!

hmmm...

Link: http://money.cnn.com...rism/index.html

Plus, how many times has BioWare been hacked? rofl... You really want to trust this company?

Modifié par Deadmac, 03 septembre 2013 - 01:21 .

[AlexJK]

Deadmac wrote...

hmmm...

Link: http://money.cnn.com...rism/index.html

Don't worry about it. Seriously, down that path lies madness and a serious phobia of modern technology. Take the shiny hat off and just get on with your life.

Plus, how many times has BioWare been hacked? rofl... You really want to trust this company?

A quick google returned one incident from 2011, something to do with the NWN forums, where hackers might have got access to some pieces of not-very-secret-really personal information such as email addresses and dates of birth. What's your point? Would I trust Bioware/EA with my email address, the knowledge that I play the Dragon Age and Mass Effect games, and some constructed save states in the DA Keep? Um... yes.

Modifié par AlexJK, 03 septembre 2013 - 03:19 .

[Fast Jimmy]

AlexJK wrote...

Deadmac wrote...

hmmm...

Link: http://money.cnn.com...rism/index.html

Don't worry about it. Seriously, down that path lies madness and a serious phobia of modern technology. Take the shiny hat off and just get on with your life.

Plus, how many times has BioWare been hacked? rofl... You really want to trust this company?

A quick google returned one incident from 2011, something to do with the NWN forums, where hackers might have got access to some pieces of not-very-secret-really personal information such as email addresses and dates of birth. What's your point? Would I trust Bioware/EA with my email address, the knowledge that I play the Dragon Age and Mass Effect games, and some constructed save states in the DA Keep? Um... yes.

BUT THEN EVERYONE WILL KNOW I ROMANCED LELIANA!!! LOL

I dislike needing to connect online to use any world states beyond the default, but that's a concern that has nothing to do with security. 

If the default playthrough wasn't designed to have the least amount of content-tied choices, I wouldn't even mind using it. But it was designed for the comics and books to have the least amount of referenceable/impactful choices, which is annoying. If they gave us a default canon with some choices that may actually result in some content being seen in DA:I, I'd just take my licks and move on. But it seems they are designing it to lock you out of the most content possible with the default canon, which, in my mind, stinks.

[draken-heart]

I have been thinking. This might be Bioware telling us all to jump from the old consoles (if we are using the old ones) to the newer ones/switch to PC, so I might jut go PC for this game.

anyone else think so?

[The Elder King]

The Keep will work on both old-gen consoles and next-gen consoles.

[draken-heart]

hhh89 wrote...

The Keep will work on both old-gen consoles and next-gen consoles.

I know there are actually people like me who do not want to be forced to use the keep from old gen to same gen and same console.

Seems like they are trying to say something.

[AlexJK]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I dislike needing to connect online to use any world states beyond the default, but that's a concern that has nothing to do with security.

I must admit, it simply doesn't bother me since I have no issue (either physical or otherwise) in connecting my gaming devices to the internet. That said, I understand the concern from those gamers who, for whatever reason, can't or won't connect their device to the outside world.

At the least, DAI might ship with a couple of different "default" states, similar to DA2, allowing some different world-seeding options even if a custom import isn't possible.

If the default playthrough wasn't designed to have the least amount of content-tied choices, I wouldn't even mind using it. But it was designed for the comics and books to have the least amount of referenceable/impactful choices, which is annoying. If they gave us a default canon with some choices that may actually result in some content being seen in DA:I, I'd just take my licks and move on. But it seems they are designing it to lock you out of the most content possible with the default canon, which, in my mind, stinks.

Can save imports really "unlock" that much content? I always thought it was variations, rather than additions (aside from the occasional cameo).

[The Elder King]

draken-heart wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

The Keep will work on both old-gen consoles and next-gen consoles.

I know there are actually people like me who do not want to be forced to use the keep from old gen to same gen and same console.

Seems like they are trying to say something.

The fact that you don't want to use it when remaining in the same platform is perfectly right, and I don't like it much even if I'm going on the next-gen console (it'd be better if it is an in-game feature).
I thought that that you meant that the keep is a next-gen feature only. I was responding to this.

Modifié par hhh89, 03 septembre 2013 - 03:59 .

[AlexJK]

draken-heart wrote...

I have been thinking. This might be Bioware telling us all to jump from the old consoles (if we are using the old ones) to the newer ones/switch to PC, so I might jut go PC for this game.

anyone else think so?

No, not really. Why would you think that?

draken-heart wrote...

I know there are actually people like me who do not want to be forced to use the keep from old gen to same gen and same console.

Seems like they are trying to say something.

I'm pretty sure all they're trying to say is "Hey, we've provided a way for you to import a custom world state into DAI, which otherwise would be impossible given that we've completely changed all the underlying game technology!"

[draken-heart]

AlexJK wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

I have been thinking. This might be Bioware telling us all to jump from the old consoles (if we are using the old ones) to the newer ones/switch to PC, so I might jut go PC for this game.

anyone else think so?

No, not really. Why would you think that?

draken-heart wrote...

I know there are actually people like me who do not want to be forced to use the keep from old gen to same gen and same console.

Seems like they are trying to say something.

I'm pretty sure all they're trying to say is "Hey, move to something other than Old-Gen so you can have fun using the better graphics of DA:I than using the keep for the same stupid gen of consoles!"

fixed.

[Fast Jimmy]

AlexJK wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I dislike needing to connect online to use any world states beyond the default, but that's a concern that has nothing to do with security.

I must admit, it simply doesn't bother me since I have no issue (either physical or otherwise) in connecting my gaming devices to the internet. That said, I understand the concern from those gamers who, for whatever reason, can't or won't connect their device to the outside world.

At the least, DAI might ship with a couple of different "default" states, similar to DA2, allowing some different world-seeding options even if a custom import isn't possible.

This could be nice. Or even a small checklist with the "big" decisions would be nice. But, as I just said, if I don't want to take my medicine and go through the steps needed to hook my console to the internet, then I'll just suck it up. 

If the default playthrough wasn't designed to have the least amount of content-tied choices, I wouldn't even mind using it. But it was designed for the comics and books to have the least amount of referenceable/impactful choices, which is annoying. If they gave us a default canon with some choices that may actually result in some content being seen in DA:I, I'd just take my licks and move on. But it seems they are designing it to lock you out of the most content possible with the default canon, which, in my mind, stinks.

Can save imports really "unlock" that much content? I always thought it was variations, rather than additions (aside from the occasional cameo).

Well, we've heard devs say that they really wanted to focus more on the Save Import going forward and have it actually affect the game. Couple that with Morrigan being used in marketing and comments from Gaider that the OGB plotline will likely be addressed (if not wrapped up) in DA:I and there is a bar that is perceptively high for this game and imports.

Honestly, if I could play a game with the Dark Ritual, saving the Anvil and preserving the Urn, I'd be happy with all other choices being decided. I think those three things have the most to offer in terms of lore that could affect the rest of the world in future games.

But yes, so far the import choices have been little more than Codex changes or cameos. If that remains the case, then I won't mind choosing the canon default.

[DonaldFwump]

I would say that's entirely false, draken-heart. If you watched any of their developer videos about DA:I, one of the reasons they are using Frostbite 3 is because they can EASILY scale back graphics, or parts of textures, polygons, etc. without sacrificing for new gen. I.E, they can make the game as best as possible (graphically or otherwise) for both old gen and new gen. The reason being because they want users of old gen to not feel like they're being completely left in the dust and forced to upgrade. Will new gen have shinier graphics? Absolutely, they have better hardware. In regards to the keep, I'm going to assume they will you allow you to just import your old games if it's on the same console. That may not be the case, it's just my assumption. One of the biggest reasons for the keep; however, was to try and reduce the number of corrupted flags in game (a case being Nathaniel is alive in DA2 when he died in Awakening) in addition to allowing players to change platforms IF THEY WANT TO. If you don't want to, that's your business, which is why Bioware is trying to appeal to you, and every one.

[AlexJK]

draken-heart wrote...

I'm pretty sure all they're trying to say is "Hey, move to something other than Old-Gen so you can have fun using the better graphics of DA:I than using the keep for the same stupid gen of consoles!"

fixed.

I'm not even sure that made sense. Seriously though, I'm sure Bioware would love people to experience DAI on the newest and best hardware possible, but since they *are* making the game available for the old consoles, I just don't understand why you think they have a particularly vested interest in people upgrading...

[DonaldFwump]

In regards about the cameos of imports, realize that DA2 and DAO are almost completely separate, other than that they are in the same universe. I believe (and has been stated by many at Bioware) that you will see MUCH more than just cameos in DAI as it incorporates most of Thedas, and they want to tie the stories together and start revealing a lot of the mysteries that both games have presented (such as the architect, the dark spawn in Legacy, etc). Especially Morrigan. They stated they will try and keep her cannon to that of the player's (what you did with her in origin), but she is in fact major to the plot. Now, I know many people are upset with Bioware and don't trust them due to ME3 ending. So, we will see in the end. *cross fingers*. Believe with me! Also sorry for not quoting for better reference...it doesn't want to work properly on my phone =/.

[AlexJK]

DonaldFwump wrote...

In regards to the keep, I'm going to assume they will you allow you to just import your old games if it's on the same console. That may not be the case, it's just my assumption.

Sorry, earlier in this topic Allan said: "There aren't plans to directly import from save games into DAI."

[Heimdall]

AlexJK wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

I'm pretty sure all they're trying to say is "Hey, move to something other than Old-Gen so you can have fun using the better graphics of DA:I than using the keep for the same stupid gen of consoles!"

fixed.

I'm not even sure that made sense. Seriously though, I'm sure Bioware would love people to experience DAI on the newest and best hardware possible, but since they *are* making the game available for the old consoles, I just don't understand why you think they have a particularly vested interest in people upgrading...

This would only make sense if they were getting part of the profit from Sony and Microsoft per next-gen unit sold.

[DonaldFwump]

AlexJK wrote...

DonaldFwump wrote...

In regards to the keep, I'm going to assume they will you allow you to just import your old games if it's on the same console. That may not be the case, it's just my assumption.

Sorry, earlier in this topic Allan said: "There aren't plans to directly import from save games into DAI."

I missed that part, thanks!  Never say never though 

[draken-heart]

AlexJK wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

I'm pretty sure all they're trying to say is "Hey, move to something other than Old-Gen so you can have fun using the better graphics of DA:I than using the keep for the same stupid gen of consoles!"

fixed.

I'm not even sure that made sense. Seriously though, I'm sure Bioware would love people to experience DAI on the newest and best hardware possible, but since they *are* making the game available for the old consoles, I just don't understand why you think they have a particularly vested interest in people upgrading...

It makes even less sense to "require" the keep for the same Console. If I am on PS3 (which I am) I would rather take a buggy direct import than be forced to use the internet just to import onto the same console.

[DarthSliver]

draken-heart wrote...

I have been thinking. This might be Bioware telling us all to jump from the old consoles (if we are using the old ones) to the newer ones/switch to PC, so I might jut go PC for this game.

anyone else think so?

I think in a manner of speaking it is, but I think its more or less they are saying "its going to be the same for all consoles, you have to use the Keep to import to DAI so why not go Next-Gen for the insanely better graphics DAI wll be on there version the dumbed down graphics of DAI on current-gen" 
Overall I think the Keep was made for DAI on next-gen more so than for it being used on current gen. They wanted us to know the import will be fair and thats its ok to jump to the next-gen console for the improved graphics. Its short of them deciding to only release the game on XboxOne and Playstation 4

[draken-heart]

AlexJK wrote...

DonaldFwump wrote...

In regards to the keep, I'm going to assume they will you allow you to just import your old games if it's on the same console. That may not be the case, it's just my assumption.

Sorry, earlier in this topic Allan said: "There aren't plans to directly import from save games into DAI."

In other words, the keep is the only way to import so we might as well not get Inquisition on the same consol as origins-2.

[AlexJK]

draken-heart wrote...

In other words, the keep is the only way to import so we might as well not get Inquisition on the same consol as origins-2.

Ignoring the requirement for a internet connection, only crazy people would consider this a drawback. Instead of "you can only import to the same platform as you played DAO/DA2", we have "you can import a custom world state to any platform you like". But apparently in the tin-foil hat world, that means that Bioware are press-ganging you into upgrading. Honestly.

[DonaldFwump]

draken-heart wrote...

AlexJK wrote...

DonaldFwump wrote...

In regards to the keep, I'm going to assume they will you allow you to just import your old games if it's on the same console. That may not be the case, it's just my assumption.

Sorry, earlier in this topic Allan said: "There aren't plans to directly import from save games into DAI."

In other words, the keep is the only way to import so we might as well not get Inquisition on the same consol as origins-2.

i think you're blowing this way out of proportion. It's really not that big of a deal to MAYBE have to log on ONE time to create a save game.  It was a solution for those wanting to switch, not one forcing you to switch, as stated earlier, Bioware gains nothing from you switching.