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[Heimdall]

AlexJK wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

In other words, the keep is the only way to import so we might as well not get Inquisition on the same consol as origins-2.

Ignoring the requirement for a internet connection, only crazy people would consider this a drawback. Instead of "you can only import to the same platform as you played DAO/DA2", we have "you can import a custom world state to any platform you like". But apparently in the tin-foil hat world, that means that Bioware are press-ganging you into upgrading. Honestly.

This is BSN.  Are you surprised?

[draken-heart]

DonaldFwump wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

AlexJK wrote...

DonaldFwump wrote...

In regards to the keep, I'm going to assume they will you allow you to just import your old games if it's on the same console. That may not be the case, it's just my assumption.

Sorry, earlier in this topic Allan said: "There aren't plans to directly import from save games into DAI."

In other words, the keep is the only way to import so we might as well not get Inquisition on the same consol as origins-2.

i think you're blowing this way out of proportion. It's really not that big of a deal to MAYBE have to log on ONE time to create a save game.  It was a solution for those wanting to switch, not one forcing you to switch, as stated earlier, Bioware gains nothing from you switching.

Except for not having an old console out there playing a game that is being designed mainly for the next-gen, with the current-gen being there simply for people too lazy to buy the next-gen.

[Heimdall]

draken-heart wrote...

Except for not having an old console out there playing a game that is being designed mainly for the next-gen, with the current-gen being there simply for people too lazy to buy the next-gen.

What does Bioware lose by people not upgrading?

[draken-heart]

Lord Aesir wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Except for not having an old console out there playing a game that is being designed mainly for the next-gen, with the current-gen being there simply for people too lazy to buy the next-gen.

What does Bioware lose by people not upgrading?

People playign with 1000x better graphics. A good game can have a mediocre story is the little unimportant graphics make the world beautiful.

[DarthSliver]

draken-heart wrote...

DonaldFwump wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

AlexJK wrote...

DonaldFwump wrote...

In regards to the keep, I'm going to assume they will you allow you to just import your old games if it's on the same console. That may not be the case, it's just my assumption.

Sorry, earlier in this topic Allan said: "There aren't plans to directly import from save games into DAI."

In other words, the keep is the only way to import so we might as well not get Inquisition on the same consol as origins-2.

i think you're blowing this way out of proportion. It's really not that big of a deal to MAYBE have to log on ONE time to create a save game.  It was a solution for those wanting to switch, not one forcing you to switch, as stated earlier, Bioware gains nothing from you switching.

Except for not having an old console out there playing a game that is being designed mainly for the next-gen, with the current-gen being there simply for people too lazy to buy the next-gen.

Honestly the game will look better on next gen, I plan to buy this game on PS4 if can. I have this thing I am doing where I wont get games on both PS3/PS4 so i can get them on PS4 but I plan to make an expection for DAI if circumstance speak to having to do that. 

[Heavenly69]

for draken heart maybe people cant afford next gen consoles as soon as they come out. things like bills food and kids come first. thats not laziness.

[draken-heart]

Heavenly69 wrote...

for draken heart maybe people cant afford next gen consoles as soon as they come out. things like bills food and kids come first. thats not laziness.

It is also easier to buy a gaming PC now and just import from Console to PC using the keep. That also makes more sense than having to Import to the keep from Console just to have to import from the keep to that same console.

[AlexJK]

Lord Aesir wrote...

This is BSN.  Are you surprised?

Nope!

draken-heart wrote...

Except for not having an old console out there playing a game that is being designed mainly for the next-gen, with the current-gen being there simply for people too lazy to buy the next-gen.

Too lazy?! As if the only barrier to the purchase of an expensive new games console is the effort required to go shopping... now I know you're mad.

[Heavenly69]

agreed

[OzzyMcRcky]

Incredible. This also allows the Warden and Hawke to play more important roles. Especially if there is a character creator which allows you to recreate them. Also, you don't need to get it on the same platform for the saves, which is great!

[draken-heart]

OzzyMcRcky wrote...

Incredible. This also allows the Warden and Hawke to play more important roles. Especially if there is a character creator which allows you to recreate them. Also, you don't need to get it on the same platform for the saves, which is great!

OR, it allows you to create what they will look like for their cameos.

[Fast Jimmy]

draken-heart wrote...

OzzyMcRcky wrote...

Incredible. This also allows the Warden and Hawke to play more important roles. Especially if there is a character creator which allows you to recreate them. Also, you don't need to get it on the same platform for the saves, which is great!

OR, it allows you to create what they will look like for their cameos.

OR, it will allow you to recreate their faces, down to the tiniest detail, and then not have them show up in DA:I at all.


Mwuahahhahahaaaa!

[JamieCOTC]

draken-heart wrote...

OzzyMcRcky wrote...

Incredible. This also allows the Warden and Hawke to play more important roles. Especially if there is a character creator which allows you to recreate them. Also, you don't need to get it on the same platform for the saves, which is great!

OR, it allows you to create what they will look like for their cameos.

OR it will allow a character to recognize the Warden or Hawke as a mage or not for the one or two refeences s/he gets.

[Heimdall]

draken-heart wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Except for not having an old console out there playing a game that is being designed mainly for the next-gen, with the current-gen being there simply for people too lazy to buy the next-gen.

What does Bioware lose by people not upgrading?

People playign with 1000x better graphics. A good game can have a mediocre story is the little unimportant graphics make the world beautiful.

...What?  I have never seen graphics make up for story, especially given the RPG fan base.  If anything, the story is more often expected to make up for mediocre graphics.  That makes no sense.  Now I know you're trolling.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

They could always make an offline app down the road that people can download for computers if the beta is successful, although that doesn't help console players. Maybe another DLC for console players similar to the comic thing in ME2?

The only problem with this idea is that DLC won't be available to people who don't connect their consoles to the internet either, unless it's eventually released on-disc.

Fast Jimmy wrote...

If the default playthrough wasn't designed to have the least amount of content-tied choices, I wouldn't even mind using it. But it was designed for the comics and books to have the least amount of referenceable/impactful choices, which is annoying. If they gave us a default canon with some choices that may actually result in some content being seen in DA:I, I'd just take my licks and move on. But it seems they are designing it to lock you out of the most content possible with the default canon, which, in my mind, stinks.

It would definitely help if they had more than one default. If I won't be able to import my saves at all, then at least I might still get to see how some of my choices played out. My Wardens have done things that don't follow the default canon, or would be considered unpopular - the dark ritual, sparing Loghain, keeping the Anvil, leaving the Architect alive, etc. As it is now, one canon choice I know for sure is the ultimate sacrifice, which I've never done in any playthroughs. I can't even pretend that default is one of my own world states.

AlexJK wrote...

Ignoring the requirement for a internet connection, only crazy people would consider this a drawback. Instead of "you can only import to the same platform as you played DAO/DA2", we have "you can import a custom world state to any platform you like".

Except for people who don't use an internet connection, it's "you can't import at all, even if your saves are on the same platform." I'd consider that a major drawback that shouldn't be ignored.

[AlexJK]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

AlexJK wrote...

Ignoring the requirement for a internet connection, only crazy people would consider this a drawback. Instead of "you can only import to the same platform as you played DAO/DA2", we have "you can import a custom world state to any platform you like".

Except for people who don't use an internet connection, it's "you can't import at all, even if your saves are on the same platform." I'd consider that a major drawback that shouldn't be ignored.

Sure (I did say "ignoring the requirement for an internet connection" in previous post), except that the alternative would more than likely have been "no imports at all", given the change to new game technology, and known issues with plot flags, etc. Given that choice...

[The Sarendoctrinator]

AlexJK wrote...

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

AlexJK wrote...

Ignoring the requirement for a internet connection, only crazy people would consider this a drawback. Instead of "you can only import to the same platform as you played DAO/DA2", we have "you can import a custom world state to any platform you like".

Except for people who don't use an internet connection, it's "you can't import at all, even if your saves are on the same platform." I'd consider that a major drawback that shouldn't be ignored.

Sure (I did say "ignoring the requirement for an internet connection" in previous post), except that the alternative would more than likely have been "no imports at all", given the change to new game technology, and known issues with plot flags, etc. Given that choice...

They could have used a similar method to the Keep, selecting the choices we made in our previous playthroughs, and included that within the game itself instead of having it online only.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

OzzyMcRcky wrote...

Incredible. This also allows the Warden and Hawke to play more important roles. Especially if there is a character creator which allows you to recreate them. Also, you don't need to get it on the same platform for the saves, which is great!

OR, it allows you to create what they will look like for their cameos.

OR, it will allow you to recreate their faces, down to the tiniest detail, and then not have them show up in DA:I at all.


Mwuahahhahahaaaa!

[RohnanJon]

I think that having a system like the Keep being on the game itself would be a better idea. Perhaps it could be part of the narrative even. For example a new dwarf shaper (shaperate? cannot remember) being taught about the events of the dragon age from the future or something. Maybe that idea's not all that practical though...

[The Sarendoctrinator]

RohnanJon wrote...

I think that having a system like the Keep being on the game itself would be a better idea. Perhaps it could be part of the narrative even. For example a new dwarf shaper (shaperate? cannot remember) being taught about the events of the dragon age from the future or something. Maybe that idea's not all that practical though...

This idea reminds me of the beginning of ME2 where Shepard is asked questions about the end of ME1, like the fate of the Council and which human representative was chosen. It would be cool if they could really do this, but I'd be fine with a simple check-list during character creation.

[RohnanJon]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

RohnanJon wrote...

I think that having a system like the Keep being on the game itself would be a better idea. Perhaps it could be part of the narrative even. For example a new dwarf shaper (shaperate? cannot remember) being taught about the events of the dragon age from the future or something. Maybe that idea's not all that practical though...

This idea reminds me of the beginning of ME2 where Shepard is asked questions about the end of ME1, like the fate of the Council and which human representative was chosen. It would be cool if they could really do this, but I'd be fine with a simple check-list during character creation.

At the risk of becoming a pariah, I've never played any Mass Effect games. I do  think it would be very cool if they did this, but the check-list seems like it would be a lot easier, more people might be inclined to do it as well, be able to dive straight into the game. I'd feel better if my game info was just put in with this shaper idea haha

[The Sarendoctrinator]

RohnanJon wrote...

At the risk of becoming a pariah, I've never played any Mass Effect games. I do  think it would be very cool if they did this, but the check-list seems like it would be a lot easier, more people might be inclined to do it as well, be able to dive straight into the game. I'd feel better if my game info was just put in with this shaper idea haha

It just seemed close enough to the scene from ME2, I wondered if that was where you got the idea.  I'm sure there are a lot of people on the DA forum who never played the Mass Effect series though.

Hopefully BioWare will come up with some kind of solution. My suggestion was mostly based on the thought that it might be easier and take up less disc space. From what I understand when people mod their saves, at least in Mass Effect, those check-lists are already in the game to trigger which plots show up from imports.

[RohnanJon]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

RohnanJon wrote...

At the risk of becoming a pariah, I've never played any Mass Effect games. I do  think it would be very cool if they did this, but the check-list seems like it would be a lot easier, more people might be inclined to do it as well, be able to dive straight into the game. I'd feel better if my game info was just put in with this shaper idea haha

It just seemed close enough to the scene from ME2, I wondered if that was where you got the idea.  I'm sure there are a lot of people on the DA forum who never played the Mass Effect series though.

Hopefully BioWare will come up with some kind of solution. My suggestion was mostly based on the thought that it might be easier and take up less disc space. From what I understand when people mod their saves, at least in Mass Effect, those check-lists are already in the game to trigger which plots show up from imports.

I do have some friends who have played Mass Effect but it doesn't really seem like my sort of thing, they all like it though. And I think what you suggested would probably be the best way to go. Simple, effective. Let's hope they come up with something. I'm going to be awfully confused with a web application and a console...

[Zeleen]

FANTASTIC!!!!