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[Clockwork_Wings]

I'm curious, if we can upload a gameplay save like I think we should, can it be unfinished? Like if I don't finish my main run between now and the fall, will i be able to finish it up in the keep?

I hope we can upload finished saves...I'm going to be real annoyed if I find out I have to click and click and click for a run I just finished over seventy hours completing...

[TheLadyJess]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Demeira wrote...

The fact that no one from BioWare has brought up offline imports makes me very leery of following this series further. Did they even think about how the Keep would negatively impact those of us without reliable internet?

Pdusen's response above is pretty much it. You will only need an Internet connection to pull the save data from the cloud at character creation. It's a one-time connection kind of thing. After that, you should be able to play without ever connecting again (unless you want to create a second import setting for another playthrough).

Well, my situation is that I cannot afford to hook my PS3 up to the internet, and because of the Keep being online only, I can't play Inquisition with imported data.  The only way I could would be if I could directly import my save data.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Demeira wrote...

Well, my situation is that I cannot afford to hook my PS3 up to the internet, and because of the Keep being online only, I can't play Inquisition with imported data.  The only way I could would be if I could directly import my save data.

Another solution would be for BioWare to document the Keep's file format, and then let you use a USB key to get the data into your console (or PC).

That should work.

[Cyanide Disaster]

Demeira wrote...

Well, my situation is that I cannot afford to hook my PS3 up to the internet, and because of the Keep being online only, I can't play Inquisition with imported data.  The only way I could would be if I could directly import my save data.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I played my PS3 I was allowed to hook up to my pre-existing wi-fi free of charge. Sony products don't make you pay for online services. However, like it's been said time and time again, it's likely you can import the data onto a USB drive and connect it manually. That said, you could go to your local library if you yourself or a friend or family member does not have internet access. (However, you're online right now, so I assume you have some access to the internet)

[FenrirBlackDragon]

^ That would seem to be a logical way to circumvent the issue for people who honestly can't hook up their computer or console to the internet, I think.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Zenor wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Zenor wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

 I hope the game it self allows you to import save files with out usage of the Cloud (When it is on the same console obviously) but that said it is neat.

It just doesn't appeal to me given that i already spent seventy plus hours crafting the DA world as stands now.

Why would i use a feature offering to do the same with out anything the satisifaction of actually doing it?

This. All my saves are on PC. I have no need for this Keep nonsense.

I have a gut feeling that we will need to use the keep regardless.

Currently they are working on importing saves to the keep to fasten the process, so that you don't have to spend time "recreating" games you've played. You're just double checking things to make sure everything is correct and not glitched. As for importing to the game directly, currently that is a definite "no".

Well that is sort of unfair to offline players such as myself.

I would assume i would need to be online to access the Cloud.

I don't see why pulling save files from a memory unit is so difficult when it worked just fine in Awakening and Two.

You're online now aren't you? If you're a PC player you only need to be online once. Just once per playthrough. That's not bad at all.

Really? I wonder if you could say that if you had 3gb limit per month like I do.

[Reofeir]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

Zenor wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Zenor wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

 I hope the game it self allows you to import save files with out usage of the Cloud (When it is on the same console obviously) but that said it is neat.

It just doesn't appeal to me given that i already spent seventy plus hours crafting the DA world as stands now.

Why would i use a feature offering to do the same with out anything the satisifaction of actually doing it?

This. All my saves are on PC. I have no need for this Keep nonsense.

I have a gut feeling that we will need to use the keep regardless.

Currently they are working on importing saves to the keep to fasten the process, so that you don't have to spend time "recreating" games you've played. You're just double checking things to make sure everything is correct and not glitched. As for importing to the game directly, currently that is a definite "no".

Well that is sort of unfair to offline players such as myself.

I would assume i would need to be online to access the Cloud.

I don't see why pulling save files from a memory unit is so difficult when it worked just fine in Awakening and Two.

You're online now aren't you? If you're a PC player you only need to be online once. Just once per playthrough. That's not bad at all.

Really? I wonder if you could say that if you had 3gb limit per month like I do.

Depends. I figure that if you're on that heavy of a limit- you're not overextending your internet usage and use everybit wisely. I don't think having a game connect and grab a, I'm assuming, a couple of MB each time to start a game that lasts about 1-2 weeks (or a few days) would interfer that much. It will suck if you were to go over your limit that month but it's not like Simcity. I would understand if you had problems with a every day online for a game that should be single player, but a quick check for saveworld info? I don't see that as a problem. 

Edit: Now those that cannot access the internet for floods or any reason similar to that, this is a problem for. People who have very basic access to internet? Not that big. It's not the evil always online that is truly a pain for such things.

Modifié par Zenor, 18 septembre 2013 - 01:02 .

[Flurdt Vash]

I will say that I was VERY Hostile to the idea that ALL my saves, my work means pretty much nothing , since I wont be able to import them into DAI  .... ONCE the Fan/Nerd Rage Died down, I started to read more of what was available in the Keep, or at least for as much as we know and I felt like an ass getting all Trolled up, so to speak lol

Im still a little *grrrrr* about my save files but honestly, Dragon Age is suppose to be about the world, this was made clear YEARS ago lol. And the Keep will allow World Choices to be added, so thats covered.

So the illusion of me thinking that the option I picked to say what ever to which NPC during some odd playthrew actually mattered in the grand scheme of things, has been blown apart,  So what , Ive been watching the videos like everyone else, I KNOW Inquisition is gonna be AMAZING, and I cant wait to move into the future of Dragon Age.

Bring on the Keep I gots a TON of Work to do lol.

Modifié par Flurdt07, 18 septembre 2013 - 01:48 .

[Oasis_JS]

Flurdt07 wrote...

I will say that I was VERY Hostile to the idea that ALL my saves, my work means pretty much nothing , since I wont be able to import them into DAI  .... ONCE the Fan/Nerd Rage Died down, I started to read more of what was available in the Keep, or at least for as much as we know and I felt like an ass getting all Trolled up, so to speak lol

Im still a little *grrrrr* about my save files but honestly, Dragon Age is suppose to be about the world, this was made clear YEARS ago lol. And the Keep will allow World Choices to be added, so thats covered.

So the illusion of me thinking that the option I picked to say what ever to which NPC during some odd playthrew actually mattered in the grand scheme of things, has been blown apart,  So what , Ive been watching the videos like everyone else, I KNOW Inquisition is gonna be AMAZING, and I cant wait to move into the future of Dragon Age.

Bring on the Keep I gots a TON of Work to do lol.

the keep..is just the keep. for people who wish to start new, or who might have lost there data or are hoping into a new platform or so on.   .if you still have all your data from pc or ps3, then you can still transfer all that into DA:I, if you are still staying in that same platform.


the keep will be hopeful if let's say you hop into ps4, =D .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Demeira wrote...

Well, my situation is that I cannot afford to hook my PS3 up to the internet, and because of the Keep being online only, I can't play Inquisition with imported data.  The only way I could would be if I could directly import my save data.

Another solution would be for BioWare to document the Keep's file format, and then let you use a USB key to get the data into your console (or PC).

That should work.

Now that, I think, is a great idea.

Flurdt07 wrote...

Im still a little *grrrrr* about my save files but honestly, Dragon Age is suppose to be about the world, this was made clear YEARS ago lol. And the Keep will allow World Choices to be added, so thats covered.

Being able to build our world-states from scratch might be more time consuming than a direct import, but you have to realise that a lot of those imports are buggy to begin with. The saves themselves aren't bad, but it was possible to rack up quite a few bad flags so that eg. Leliana thinks she romanced the Warden, Zevran thinks he never did, and both Fenris and Anders went to live happily ever after with Hawke.

A clean build is a good thing in the long run.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Oasis_JS wrote...

the keep..is just the keep. for people who wish to start new, or who might have lost there data or are hoping into a new platform or so on.   .if you still have all your data from pc or ps3, then you can still transfer all that into DA:I, if you are still staying in that same platform.

From what I've read, it sounds like you can import your saves into the Keep, and then from the Keep into DAI. You can't import the saves directly from the old game in DAI, making the Keep sort of like a middle man.

So if you want to preserve your old world state, you must use the Keep to transfer it across.

[Reofeir]

Flurdt07 wrote...

I will say that I was VERY Hostile to the idea that ALL my saves, my work means pretty much nothing , since I wont be able to import them into DAI  .... ONCE the Fan/Nerd Rage Died down, I started to read more of what was available in the Keep, or at least for as much as we know and I felt like an ass getting all Trolled up, so to speak lol

Im still a little *grrrrr* about my save files but honestly, Dragon Age is suppose to be about the world, this was made clear YEARS ago lol. And the Keep will allow World Choices to be added, so thats covered.

So the illusion of me thinking that the option I picked to say what ever to which NPC during some odd playthrew actually mattered in the grand scheme of things, has been blown apart,  So what , Ive been watching the videos like everyone else, I KNOW Inquisition is gonna be AMAZING, and I cant wait to move into the future of Dragon Age.

Bring on the Keep I gots a TON of Work to do lol.

They are not all useless. Bioware did talk looking into the ability to import saves into the keep to "speed up the process". So this means all that work you did will be for not, as it will make your life easier. All you're doing is double checking things to make sure they are all correct if this feature gets implemented. 

[Flurdt Vash]

Zenor wrote...

Flurdt07 wrote...

I will say that I was VERY Hostile to the idea that ALL my saves, my work means pretty much nothing , since I wont be able to import them into DAI  .... ONCE the Fan/Nerd Rage Died down, I started to read more of what was available in the Keep, or at least for as much as we know and I felt like an ass getting all Trolled up, so to speak lol

Im still a little *grrrrr* about my save files but honestly, Dragon Age is suppose to be about the world, this was made clear YEARS ago lol. And the Keep will allow World Choices to be added, so thats covered.

So the illusion of me thinking that the option I picked to say what ever to which NPC during some odd playthrew actually mattered in the grand scheme of things, has been blown apart,  So what , Ive been watching the videos like everyone else, I KNOW Inquisition is gonna be AMAZING, and I cant wait to move into the future of Dragon Age.

Bring on the Keep I gots a TON of Work to do lol.

They are not all useless. Bioware did talk looking into the ability to import saves into the keep to "speed up the process". So this means all that work you did will be for not, as it will make your life easier. All you're doing is double checking things to make sure they are all correct if this feature gets implemented. 

Oh yeah would be so down with that lol:lol:  I guess in my big jumbled rambling what I was really trying to say is that I shouldnt have gone all *GARRRRRR* at first, I should have thought it out more. Im good, looking foward to it actually

[Flurdt Vash]

[quote]Flurdt07 wrote...

Im still a little *grrrrr* about my save files but honestly, Dragon Age is suppose to be about the world, this was made clear YEARS ago lol. And the Keep will allow World Choices to be added, so thats covered.

[/quote]

Being able to build our world-states from scratch might be more time consuming than a direct import, but you have to realise that a lot of those imports are buggy to begin with. The saves themselves aren't bad, but it was possible to rack up quite a few bad flags so that eg. Leliana thinks she romanced the Warden, Zevran thinks he never did, and both Fenris and Anders went to live happily ever after with Hawke.

A clean build is a good thing in the long run.[/quote]

I can agree with that completly. Hmmm maybe We will get the option to decide Jowens Fate Other then Modding or using the Consol (PC), there was no other way to ever finish that story line in Origins. :innocent:

[Oasis_JS]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Oasis_JS wrote...

the keep..is just the keep. for people who wish to start new, or who might have lost there data or are hoping into a new platform or so on.   .if you still have all your data from pc or ps3, then you can still transfer all that into DA:I, if you are still staying in that same platform.

From what I've read, it sounds like you can import your saves into the Keep, and then from the Keep into DAI. You can't import the saves directly from the old game in DAI, making the Keep sort of like a middle man.

So if you want to preserve your old world state, you must use the Keep to transfer it across.

ah,,hmm. i understood it another way?. hmm.. ok.. thanks for the input. =D..  that's kind of weird to me .. because I mean.. my pc version is a ok and my ps3 version. no bad data.. I was happy about the keep cause i can replan some ps3 version..since i dont have da:o  for ps3 anymore.. but i was ok with my da2 ps3 stuff..  any how i see..


i guess they will also have a keep download on the psn and xbox live. for the non pc users? i just dont understand why do i have to send my old data their first.. lol but ok =D

Modifié par Oasis_JS, 18 septembre 2013 - 05:22 .

[Johanna]

My partner and I are both very excited about the Keep, and we both think it's a clever way to get things sorted.  Nice job, everyone!

[Oasis_JS]

same here . I look forward to it too. I have my plays already done. but since i dont have dao for ps3 anymore..as i had hard time playing it. although i finish my da 2 plays =D it would be neat to do some new stories..with dao ,awaking added into my ps3 game play, so i can put all into da:i ps3 or ps4 version =D

[Flurdt Vash]

I can see the Keep as a way of getting all the saves on the same page ... so to speak. Instead of having to go from game save to save and cross platform and what have you, we get everything in a file which can then be used from here on out with other (hopefully) Dragon Age installments. I can see it as a good thing. Still, the question for PS3 and 360, those who are not going to PS4 and XBox One yet and will be getting the current Gen versions of the game ... would it not be best to have those two versions with import features as opposed to via Keep? Just a random thought really.

[clone wars]

how will the ones that are ask to test out the beta gave the info that bioware need

[TheLadyJess]

Cyanide Disaster wrote...

Demeira wrote...

Well, my situation is that I cannot afford to hook my PS3 up to the internet, and because of the Keep being online only, I can't play Inquisition with imported data.  The only way I could would be if I could directly import my save data.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I played my PS3 I was allowed to hook up to my pre-existing wi-fi free of charge. Sony products don't make you pay for online services. However, like it's been said time and time again, it's likely you can import the data onto a USB drive and connect it manually. That said, you could go to your local library if you yourself or a friend or family member does not have internet access. (However, you're online right now, so I assume you have some access to the internet)

I don't have wifi, and the internet service provider I have would charge me an additional $35-50 a month ON TOP of the nearly $100 a month I already pay.  That extra money I can't afford.  I can't afford to go through my cell phone provider, and I even if I could my signal strength would be next to nothing.  As for my bandwidth usage, it takes nearly 1G to operate two tabs on Firefox.

[AlexJK]

clone wars wrote...

how will the ones that are ask to test out the beta gave the info that bioware need

What?

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

He's asking how Bioware will get feedback from the beta testers. I'm assuming they testers will be informed of the details, and/or it'll be integrated into the test environment.

[clone wars]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

He's asking how Bioware will get feedback from the beta testers. I'm assuming they testers will be informed of the details, and/or it'll be integrated into the test environment.

yes that is what  I  asking about

[DarkSpiral]

Has there been any word on whether The Keep is strictly for DA:I alone? And I don't mean if they'll use the feature for future Dragon Age games, because it seems logical that they will, but rather I'm wondering about backwards compatibility.

I mean, it probably isn't compatible, but it would be fairly cool if we could create world states for DA2 as well. Especially since the Keep is going to be available before Inquisition is.

[AlexJK]

DarkSpiral wrote...

I mean, it probably isn't compatible, but it would be fairly cool if we could create world states for DA2 as well. Especially since the Keep is going to be available before Inquisition is.

Strictly speaking, BW haven't explicitly stated that that this won't be possible, but at this point there's no way they're going to patch Keep importing into DA2. So... no.

Modifié par AlexJK, 19 septembre 2013 - 11:16 .