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The Dragon Age Keep (No Save Game Importing)


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A masked version of both would work. Hawke would be easier to make speak, because of the friendly/charming/angry selection, perhaps something similar could be adapted for the warden. Disappointed to hear they won't be including a character creator.

So, if the warden had the Ultimate Sacrifice, will we be able to customize the warden-commander? If the warden in question was an elf, there's no reason the Orlesian warden should also be an elf with the same values.

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The only good returning former player character is a dead one.

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Hmm...the problem with the appearance bothers me. Really. How are they going to show our Wardens/Hawkes if they don't look like them? The closed helmet doesn't work for me, since most of my characters are mages or rogues.

This makes me even more convinced that making our old protagonists appear in DAI is not a good idea.


Agreed. That could really be a deal-breaker for me -- too egregious a retcon to live with.


True.
Putting the warden and hawke in DAI is a bad idea that could come back to bite Bioware.:innocent:

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They could be charred corpses. Or golems. Or possessed. If so, it wouldn't matter what your Warden or Hawke looked like.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 12 décembre 2013 - 01:19 .


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thats1evildude wrote...

They could be charred corpses. Or golems. Or possessed. If so, it wouldn't matter what your Warden or Hawke looked like.



Hakwe possessed by Vengeance, and the Warden by Corypheus. The two villains behind the Fade tear. An unholy alliance between demons and darskpawn to conquer and enslave mortals!

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Angrywolves wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Hmm...the problem with the appearance bothers me. Really. How are they going to show our Wardens/Hawkes if they don't look like them? The closed helmet doesn't work for me, since most of my characters are mages or rogues.

This makes me even more convinced that making our old protagonists appear in DAI is not a good idea.


Agreed. That could really be a deal-breaker for me -- too egregious a retcon to live with.


True.
Putting the warden and hawke in DAI is a bad idea that could come back to bite Bioware.:innocent:


I kind of like the idea of an occaisional cutscene of Varric describing what happened during the last two games around the campfire.  If the former PCs don't look right, it's because Varric never met them, and being a showman, made them larger-than-life.  That might be more fun if you played them for a few minutes, like the DA2 opening, or Varric confronting Bartrand, though.

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Or maybe, and I'm just throwing out a wild guess here, neither Hawke or Warden will appear in DA:I. lol

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U should port the pc version of da:o and da2 to xbox one & ps4 that way we can have saves cause the keep will likly not have most of the minor dicisions i would buy it if u guys port it all u need to do is change 1 line of code

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Da1AnOnlyCrazy wrote...

... all u need to do is change 1 line of code

Yeah but no.

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Or maybe... we can change their appearance in the game itself. Using the normal character creator, the same one you would use to create your Inquisitors.

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I'm on the fence with this whole Warden/Hawke issue. I get that alot of people don't want their precious characters to be ruined and I also understand that a seperate CC is a sh*tload of work.

Though story wise, I think it's a bit absurd if there is no Warden or Hawke. I mean, the Hero of Ferelden that decided who ruled over entire Ferelden and decided other major things, such as the new king of the dwarves, the fate of the Circle and Redcliffe and whether there still are werewolves happily hopping around or not. Entire Ferelden is shaped by the Warden. A whole ****load of Fereldans (and an Orleisian, an Antivan and a Qunari) know the Warden.

Aaaaand *poof* he's gone. Yyeeaaahhhh. Sure. Not buying it. If your Warden is dead; totally logical! Ofcourse he/she wont show up again! That's obvious. But an important character just going "poof"? And what for? To protect headcanons? Please, headcanons are going to destroyed with a sequel, no matter how many choices they give you.

And then Hawke. Viscount of Kirkwall and friends who could've blown up the Chantry. Totally not going to have an importance in a chantry VS mages issue. Nope. Not at all.

Then again, I think they will be mentioned. But physically appearing? Not sure. I doubt it. But I'll let bioware decide.

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AlexJK wrote...

Da1AnOnlyCrazy wrote...

... all u need to do is change 1 line of code

Yeah but no.


OBVIOUSLY the only change to being on a console vs. being on a PC (or different consoles) is a simple:

"Platform = <platform query>"

Obviously, programmers are just lazy and stupid when they don't modify that one line to make and report games across all platforms. OBVIOUSLY. 

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Da1AnOnlyCrazy wrote...

U should port the pc version of da:o and da2 to xbox one & ps4 that way we can have saves cause the keep will likly not have most of the minor dicisions i would buy it if u guys port it all u need to do is change 1 line of code


The Keep might not have every minor decision, but remember that not every past decision will matter in the game. Would things such as who rules Ferelden seem to matter? Yes, absolutely. Would it matter whether you saved or killed the werewolves? Possibly, but not the same degree. Would it matter whether you completed Silm Couldry's questline? Seemingly not. 

Of course, if some things which won't have an impact on Inquisition turn out to matter in future games, the Keep could be amended to include these decisions. 

As others have pointed out, porting previous games to new generations is much more complicated and costly, so the Keep really is the best option for everybody. 

Modifié par King Cousland, 16 décembre 2013 - 10:23 .


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It does make more sense to create warden/hawke using the ingame character creator; otherwise the keep would have to have a cc for each platform.

(assuming they will appear in the game)

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I must admit I would have liked to see my old Warden (and Hawke) make an appearance in this sequel. I still hope they will since I find not a little disappointing to invest time in building a character only to have him disappear from the face of Thedas. Anyway it is good to know that this time no corrupted save-file will have Alistair call my male Mage warden "his wife" XD

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I'm still of the opinion that neither Hawke nor the Warden need to show up. The Warden didn't show up in DA:E, and the world didn't implode (or explode), so why is it that everyone expects both former PCs to show up this time? There isn't a need for them. Sure, you can hear about the two and their deeds but I really can't see how adding them is a must to the story. You won't be playing as them. It's really unlikely that either would do a whole lot if they were even in the game because it's no longer their story.
I just don't understand why people feel that their former PCs must return.

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Da1AnOnlyCrazy wrote...

U should port the pc version of da:o and da2 to xbox one & ps4 that way we can have saves cause the keep will likly not have most of the minor dicisions i would buy it if u guys port it all u need to do is change 1 line of code


lol, if there ever was a programming statement that has a large history of DOOM written all over it, it is this one.  :D

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Is there a transcript of the interview? Did he say anything about email invitations possibly after the new year?

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Personally I do not care how my Warden/Hawke looks

for the Warden I am only interested in him being the proper race proper gender and my decisions respected

for Hawke i Used their design so my decisions respected All I want for him

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ArtemisMoons wrote...

I'm still of the opinion that neither Hawke nor the Warden need to show up. The Warden didn't show up in DA:E, and the world didn't implode (or explode), so why is it that everyone expects both former PCs to show up this time? There isn't a need for them. Sure, you can hear about the two and their deeds but I really can't see how adding them is a must to the story. You won't be playing as them. It's really unlikely that either would do a whole lot if they were even in the game because it's no longer their story.
I just don't understand why people feel that their former PCs must return.

What's DA:E?

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ArtemisMoons wrote...

I'm still of the opinion that neither Hawke nor the Warden need to show up. The Warden didn't show up in DA:E, and the world didn't implode (or explode), so why is it that everyone expects both former PCs to show up this time? There isn't a need for them. Sure, you can hear about the two and their deeds but I really can't see how adding them is a must to the story. You won't be playing as them. It's really unlikely that either would do a whole lot if they were even in the game because it's no longer their story.
I just don't understand why people feel that their former PCs must return.



I will use Comics for a  example  DA2 is like a The story line is a small type that only  affected that super hero city like The story line that only affect Gotham and Batman Characters only shows 

and now DAI is like a Event Comics story line Events that affect the whole world and you get   many Characters  from Different title show up 

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FireAndBlood wrote...

ArtemisMoons wrote...

I'm still of the opinion that neither Hawke nor the Warden need to show up. The Warden didn't show up in DA:E, and the world didn't implode (or explode), so why is it that everyone expects both former PCs to show up this time? There isn't a need for them. Sure, you can hear about the two and their deeds but I really can't see how adding them is a must to the story. You won't be playing as them. It's really unlikely that either would do a whole lot if they were even in the game because it's no longer their story.
I just don't understand why people feel that their former PCs must return.

What's DA:E?

Dragon age exodus, aka da2

#1348
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Dragon Age II has never been called Dragon Age Exodus except in concept.

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Nightwing99 wrote...

I will use Comics for a  example  DA2 is like a The story line is a small type that only  affected that super hero city like The story line that only affect Gotham and Batman Characters only shows 

and now DAI is like a Event Comics story line Events that affect the whole world and you get   many Characters  from Different title show up 

Except comics aren't video games. It isn't easy to take other people's ideas of what their PCs and put them in situations that can fit all of the expectations. In comics, fans didn't have a say in a character's development. In dragon age, your Warden would likely differ from mine. I have several Wardens that have different personalities and made different decisions. With the amount of interaction people seem to be expecting, the work to include the Warden (and then Hawke) would be ridiculous. And it would never satisfy everyone. Can you imagine the number of people who would cry "but that's not MY Warden/Hawke" ? 
But I still don't believe it's necessary for either. The Warden's story was pretty big, sure, but to be fair, he/she didn't do it alone. And any Warden could have slain the archdemon. Now Hawke? I wouldn't say he/she had a big enough role to be included. Anders on the other hand, yes. Hawke barely had a choice in dealing with the mage/templar situation, one that would have happened regardless of Hawke's presence. 

So essentially I'm say that we don't need either in DA:I. 

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I still think there should be three possible storylines, Warden, Hawke and Inquisitor. You can play each separately (Warden/grey wardens, Hawke / mages or templars, Inquisitor / inquisition). Each playtrough are separate but affect each other(are intertvined, you can cross path with another character converse with them and even kill them) and decisions in each shape the outcome of the game. But it is not necessary to play all, you can choose just one and other automatically play out theirs. Like in GTA5.

Modifié par Ukki, 20 décembre 2013 - 03:23 .