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#1376
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kreol1q1q wrote...

Ok, this has probably been answered already, but I don't have the time to browse through 40+ pages of posts, so i just have one question; how exactly will the Keep work?
What I mean is, will I always have to recreate my characters and stories from scratch, relying on my memory, or will there be an import-save-into-keep feature?
I didn't understand that bit very well in the original blog post.

It's important to me because, while most of my playthroughs were "paragon"/"good", there were many subtle (and a few not so subtle) diffrences in decisions made and romances picked that depended on the character's class, gender and attitude. I might not, and in fact already do not remember all of them for all my characters, but I still feel those choices make them unique and different from each other, and in that respect, those choices are very important.


The current plan is to have all choices entered from memory.

There is talk of POSSIBLY finding a way to read your old save import files and then performing a "QR" process on them, manually changing informaiton and records as you see fit... but this has not been confirmed as being possible or not, nor if it will be applicable to all platforms (such as PC only, or if consoles are able to import their files as well). 

So I'd say count on inputting your choices from memory. My impression (not at all guaranteed, mind you) is that The Keep will give you background on each decision if you want more information about what exactly was going on, so you're not saying "Who was that? What was I doing? Why should I care?" when you are trying to enter the different states into the system.

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Get Magna Carter wrote...

kreol1q1q wrote...

Ok, this has probably been answered already, but I don't have the time to browse through 40+ pages of posts, so i just have one question; how exactly will the Keep work?
What I mean is, will I always have to recreate my characters and stories from scratch, relying on my memory, or will there be an import-save-into-keep feature?

Bioware are working on such a feature BUT it is very difficult and they cannot yet guarantee whether or not such a feature will be in the final version.


Yeah, I think unfortunately it seems fairly unlikely at this point. This interview with Fernando Melo is a good update that's fairly recent, discussion of importing DA2/DAO saves starts from about 8 minutes.

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Having played-through as many times as I have, I don't think I'll have any problem "remembering" how I want things to be going forward!    :lol:

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ElitePinecone wrote...

I believe the intention is that eventually almost everybody, or everybody, who signed up for the Beta will get access. They want to stress-test the networks and stuff, which involves getting as many people as they possibly can to join in at once. So it might take a while, but as far as I read the plan was to fairly consistently keep ramping up the number of users - it also helps with their feedback and metrics if they get a range of player types and whatever.

(I think the idea is to make sure everything is absolutely working properly before launch, to avoid the network issues that have affected SimCity, BF4, and other games recently.)

Hopefully that is the case, Nintendo didnt think these things and now has to delay that Pokemon Bank to a TBD. I only mention it because I like to play Pokemon off to the side and I have been looking forward to it lol. 

I didnt have any emails from what I could tell so hopefully I do get picked closer to release of the Keep. Don't they plan to have the Keep going like a Month before DAI so everyone can get their World States in order.

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Well, my Xbox 360 broke during a recent move, taking with it most of my DAO and all my DA2 saves, so the Keep just became a lot more valuable to me.

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I went to their youtube channels and congratulated the three people identified as having been selected for the keep beta.I hope other players do the same.

smiles.

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TILL I SEE A GAME TO PLAY.... MY GOING BACK TO "DRAGON AGE ORIGIN'S" and also build new add-on's with :wub:David Gaider's :wub:other books

Modifié par darkener12345, 28 décembre 2013 - 03:29 .

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has bioware start to pick the beta test now

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Angrywolves

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Yes.

Ability Drain said thanks.
smiles.

#1385
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I'm confused even after hearing the above mentioned interview i'm still unsure how the Beta test for the keep will implement the choices if they do not let you play the story. do they ask each tester to try a certain "plot point" with a fore mention decision?

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Well, there are apparently other features to the Keep apart from purely selecting choices (though we don't know what they are yet).

Also, the Keep's goal is not just to be a way to import save games - it's a way to make sure that the choices you make are consistent and won't break the game. The system is programmed to look at all the choices you pick and see if any of them contradict each other, to make absolutely sure that whatever gets finally imported into DA:I can be played without bugs or weirdness.

So, if I had to guess, they can do things like test the logic/consistency systems without having to import those files into a game. Bioware might also want feedback on things like the UI, the appearance, how easy the Keep is to use, whether any parts are confusing, etc.

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Angrywolves wrote...

Yes.

Ability Drain said thanks.
smiles.


Lol, that's sweet! ^_^

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Macgeezy731 wrote...

I'm confused even after hearing the above mentioned interview i'm still unsure how the Beta test for the keep will implement the choices if they do not let you play the story. do they ask each tester to try a certain "plot point" with a fore mention decision?


No idea, they haven't told us anymore about it yet. I got the impression that we'll only be testing out a small part of it... I could be wrong though.

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Angrywolves

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Here's a video called Dragon Age After the fifth if you interested with three of the beta recepients:





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I hope bioware pick me

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Angrywolves wrote...

Here's a video called Dragon Age After the fifth if you interested with three of the beta recepients:




ScottishWarrior92 got one too. Lol, man that's surreal to see. Thanks for the pimping us out!

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Are the beta testers already selected? That would be disappointing...

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LolaLei

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Are the beta testers already selected? That would be disappointing...


The first wave has been, but they said they'll be giving out more in the new year. I dunno when the beta itself will actually begin though.

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So many gloomy folk. It's not much of a beta test with only what, 4 or 6 people? That's more of an early access to give those people time to write up / record something to get people hyped when the larger invite wave goes out.

These are the rare few times when I'm less cynical than others. It scares me.

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Cleatcleat wrote...

So many gloomy folk. It's not much of a beta test with only what, 4 or 6 people? That's more of an early access to give those people time to write up / record something to get people hyped when the larger invite wave goes out.

These are the rare few times when I'm less cynical than others. It scares me.


I don't think we're allowed to do any write ups/videos for it, they're getting us to sign an NDA, lol.

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I thought it was more you couldn't publish that stuff but you could have it ready? Eh still if ya can't have it ready, you guys will have a better idea of what to say / write when you can.

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I wonder how the keep will handle my Origins Dwarf warrior that killed every party member. Except Sten. I left him in the cage, figured he died.

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Cleatcleat wrote...

So many gloomy folk. It's not much of a beta test with only what, 4 or 6 people? That's more of an early access to give those people time to write up / record something to get people hyped when the larger invite wave goes out.

These are the rare few times when I'm less cynical than others. It scares me.


How do you know it's just 4-6 people ?


They've said there will be more selctions after the first of the year.:whistle:

Yaafm said:

I wonder how the keep will handle my Origins Dwarf warrior that killed
every party member. Except Sten. I left him in the cage, figured he
died.


Maybe that will come back and bite you in DAI.rotfl.:whistle:

Modifié par Angrywolves, 29 décembre 2013 - 04:15 .


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Congratulations to all those who made the first round of acceptance into the Keep. I am sure your fresh eyes and perspective will be invaluable to Bioware so the Keep is even better when I get in (insert slight laugh and a smile). Seriously, congratulations.

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LolaLei wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Here's a video called Dragon Age After the fifth if you interested with three of the beta recepients:




ScottishWarrior92 got one too. Lol, man that's surreal to see. Thanks for the pimping us out!


Some players probably don't know what certain players who have youtube channels look like.

Maybe they'll subscribe.

Hope I didn't upset anyone by doing so.

But youtube is hardly private.

Maybe I'm having what I regard as fun with this.
Being an ancient old man I have to come up with some way to amuse myself.
Looking at the angst of much younger players can at times be entertaining.^_^