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Maybe the can give a DVD version of the programe with the game DVD... That way people won't have to use the internet....

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AlexJK wrote...

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They're taking crossplatforms and offline players into consideration. I think that's all we know.

One of the main reasons for having the Keep at all is to support cross-platform world states, which can't really be done any other way. And as for offline... I wouldn't count on it, to be honest. All signs point to an online-only solution so far.


This actually might be the solution to keep MP out of Dragon Age too if you think about it. 

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OrayMoor wrote...

Maybe the can give a DVD version of the programe with the game DVD... That way people won't have to use the internet....


Definitely won't happen.

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DarthSliver wrote...

AlexJK wrote...

Clockwork_Wings wrote...

They're taking crossplatforms and offline players into consideration. I think that's all we know.

One of the main reasons for having the Keep at all is to support cross-platform world states, which can't really be done any other way. And as for offline... I wouldn't count on it, to be honest. All signs point to an online-only solution so far.


This actually might be the solution to keep MP out of Dragon Age too if you think about it. 


I read somewhere they're cosindering the number of people who won't or can't play online.  But if it's a technilogical limitation, then there's not a lot they can do, sadly.  I don't understand why it can't be an offline app, but I'm not working on it, so...

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MichaelStJohn90068 wrote...

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Yeah, that's true - though you could argue in ME's case it was a problem of their own making, since it looks like absolutely nobody in Bioware planned ahead for how to deal with the choices that they'd given players in earlier games. Most of the time it worked quite well, but in a few cases - like the rachni - there was some blowback from players, probably deservedly. 

Maybe the solution should also partly be about managing players' expectations[/b] - after all, there's no way to give huge amounts of unique content to every single combination of choices, so maybe that side of the game series shouldn't be hyped as much as it is now?

Oh Maker, yes.  This exactly!  Creating these choices to make vastly different world states limits future narratives.  This is why I had no problem with DA2's ending.  The path you take to get there is of your own choosing, but why can't the end state be basically the same for everyone?


I wondered that myself, I didn’t have problem with DA2 ending also,
but I wished Varic said more about where and what my companions decided to do
after the gallows battle

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Vinitchz wrote...

MichaelStJohn90068 wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

DarthSliver wrote...
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Yeah, that's true - though you could argue in ME's case it was a problem of their own making, since it looks like absolutely nobody in Bioware planned ahead for how to deal with the choices that they'd given players in earlier games. Most of the time it worked quite well, but in a few cases - like the rachni - there was some blowback from players, probably deservedly. 

Maybe the solution should also partly be about managing players' expectations[/b] - after all, there's no way to give huge amounts of unique content to every single combination of choices, so maybe that side of the game series shouldn't be hyped as much as it is now?

Oh Maker, yes.  This exactly!  Creating these choices to make vastly different world states limits future narratives.  This is why I had no problem with DA2's ending.  The path you take to get there is of your own choosing, but why can't the end state be basically the same for everyone?


I wondered that myself, I didn’t have problem with DA2 ending also,
but I wished Varic said more about where and what my companions decided to do
after the gallows battle



So do I.  I missed the sliders, even if they were horribly inaccurate in places.

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has any new info come out

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clone wars wrote...

has any new info come out

Has any new info been posted in this topic that you didn't already know?

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There has been a lot of nothing about The Keep the past time.

I take it everyone is too busy working on the project, but I would still like to hear some news on the progress, maybe a vague hint at when the beta might be planned for.


Pretty please?

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The keep is cloud based. Which probably means you would need to be connected to the internet at some point. The only way I can see this optimized is if each connection cache's multiple imports and modifies them from there. It would mean the software would need some local mechanism.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

There has been a lot of nothing about The Keep the past time.

I take it everyone is too busy working on the project, but I would still like to hear some news on the progress, maybe a vague hint at when the beta might be planned for.


Pretty please?

Hasn't there been two sets of invites to the BETA for The Keep already?

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Gregolian wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

There has been a lot of nothing about The Keep the past time.

I take it everyone is too busy working on the project, but I would still like to hear some news on the progress, maybe a vague hint at when the beta might be planned for.


Pretty please?

Hasn't there been two sets of invites to the BETA for The Keep already?


There were?


That is the first time I ever heard about something like that.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

There were?

That is the first time I ever heard about something like that.

There are multiple waves planned, they're starting small and will slowly expand it over the next few/many months. 

I believe the intention is to ultimately get heaps of people using it by the end of the beta period, so they can stress test it in preparation for actual launch. 

(Because the last thing EA needs is people not being able to play DA:I or import their saves on day one due to the Keep being down)

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I want to preorder DAI now! Would also love to get in the test for the keep.

Also someone needs to make a Sandal prophecy thread if one does not already exist.:wizard:

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

There were?

That is the first time I ever heard about something like that.

There are multiple waves planned, they're starting small and will slowly expand it over the next few/many months. 

I believe the intention is to ultimately get heaps of people using it by the end of the beta period, so they can stress test it in preparation for actual launch. 

(Because the last thing EA needs is people not being able to play DA:I or import their saves on day one due to the Keep being down)




That was not what I had asked. The quoted poster said there had already been two waves of invites that were sent to people, as in the beta was already in full swing.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

There were?

That is the first time I ever heard about something like that.

There are multiple waves planned, they're starting small and will slowly expand it over the next few/many months. 

I believe the intention is to ultimately get heaps of people using it by the end of the beta period, so they can stress test it in preparation for actual launch. 

(Because the last thing EA needs is people not being able to play DA:I or import their saves on day one due to the Keep being down)




That was not what I had asked. The quoted poster said there had already been two waves of invites that were sent to people, as in the beta was already in full swing.


As far as I know only one wave of invites has gone out. A small group around Christmas. They said they would announce via twitter when they sent out the next wave of invites. I haven't seen that yet, but I could have missed it. If a second wave did go out I for one would love to know when. Then we can work out what kind of time frame we are looking at for the next one. ;)

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My apologies if this has already been answered. Will we be able to save our keep to an external HD, to upload it to our [gaming system], or will an internet connection with the device be necessary at some point?

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WonderNubs23 wrote...

My apologies if this has already been answered. Will we be able to save our keep to an external HD, to upload it to our [gaming system], or will an internet connection with the device be necessary at some point?


The Keep is afaik a web based program. It is planned that you link to the internet at the start of the playthrough to import your Keep profile.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

WonderNubs23 wrote...

My apologies if this has already been answered. Will we be able to save our keep to an external HD, to upload it to our [gaming system], or will an internet connection with the device be necessary at some point?


The Keep is afaik a web based program. It is planned that you link to the internet at the start of the playthrough to import your Keep profile.


So, the only option for systems w/o an Internet connection is to play one of the Canon backgrounds? Pity. Thanks for the answer. 

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WonderNubs23 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

WonderNubs23 wrote...

My apologies if this has already been answered. Will we be able to save our keep to an external HD, to upload it to our [gaming system], or will an internet connection with the device be necessary at some point?


The Keep is afaik a web based program. It is planned that you link to the internet at the start of the playthrough to import your Keep profile.


So, the only option for systems w/o an Internet connection is to play one of the Canon backgrounds? Pity. Thanks for the answer. 


Yeah alot of offline players aren't espiecally pleased with it either.

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So, I imaging the vast majority of options will be for DAO. not may decisions in DA2 to carry over.

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Master Warder Z wrote...

WonderNubs23 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

WonderNubs23 wrote...

My apologies if this has already been answered. Will we be able to save our keep to an external HD, to upload it to our [gaming system], or will an internet connection with the device be necessary at some point?


The Keep is afaik a web based program. It is planned that you link to the internet at the start of the playthrough to import your Keep profile.


So, the only option for systems w/o an Internet connection is to play one of the Canon backgrounds? Pity. Thanks for the answer. 


Yeah alot of offline players aren't espiecally pleased with it either.





It only needs a single connection though, when you import your Keep profile at the start of your playthrough. Once done, and this was confirmed in this very thread iirc, no further online connection is necessary for that playthrough.

And we don't yet know if you actually have to connect via the game, or if you can just download your individual profiles directly from the Keep and say save on an USB stick and manually import into the game to start new playthroughs.


And seeing how you have the capacity to post on the internet, you'd also have the capacity to use the Keep as is intended as far as we can tell with our current set of informations.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

And seeing how you have the capacity to post on the internet, you'd also have the capacity to use the Keep as is intended as far as we can tell with our current set of informations.

This only applies to people who will be playing DAI on the same device they're using to post on BSN. I play on consoles that are always offline, so connecting them to the internet even once is not something I'm going to do. If there's an option to save Keep info to a USB drive and then load it to the offline console, I can work with that, but it hasn't been confirmed if that's possible.

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

And seeing how you have the capacity to post on the internet, you'd also have the capacity to use the Keep as is intended as far as we can tell with our current set of informations.

This only applies to people who will be playing DAI on the same device they're using to post on BSN. I play on consoles that are always offline, so connecting them to the internet even once is not something I'm going to do. If there's an option to save Keep info to a USB drive and then load it to the offline console, I can work with that, but it hasn't been confirmed if that's possible.

Couldn't you tether your console wirelessly to whatever device you're using though? 

Unless it's more a philosophical objection to connecting your console to the internet, or something, I guess.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Couldn't you tether your console wirelessly to whatever device you're using though? 

Unless it's more a philosophical objection to connecting your console to the internet, or something, I guess.

I guess you could call it a combination of philosophical and practical. Most things that I've connected the internet to have ended up broken beyond repair or just very messed up, and I don't want any problems with my game consoles. I've also played videogames for many years before ever using the internet, so it's not something I want or need in my games. It shouldn't be a requirement to use an important feature of a singleplayer game which, until DAI, was always done offline. I don't object to the idea of entering the Warden and Hawke's decisions manually, just the fact that making it online-only will exclude players who used to be able to use this feature, which leaves them only the default world state that may not reflect their choices at all. 

But that's just me. I've read comments from others in this thread who don't have internet access at home to use it with their consoles even if they wanted to.