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So there's no point in playing DAO and DA2 now?

 

Or.. err.. no point in keeping the save files? Bummer.



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So there's no point in playing DAO and DA2 now?

 

Or.. err.. no point in keeping the save files? Bummer.

 

Hm, there's point in playing them for the enjoyment. However, there's not much pressure in trying to get the perfect save. I've been playing and replaying the game many times just because I love the game. Also, it's a long 6 or so months until DA:I is released. 


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Hm, there's point in playing them for the enjoyment. However, there's not much pressure in trying to get the perfect save. I've been playing and replaying the game many times just because I love the game. Also, it's a long 6 or so months until DA:I is released. 

 

Yeah, I can still play for enjoyment. And it is too long to wait for DAI. lol.. Good reasoning there.

 

Just kind of a shame we can't do direct imports. I feel a bit in limbo on what DA Keep is going to be. I wonder how much personalization we'll get to have (character names and such).



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Yeah, I can still play for enjoyment. And it is too long to wait for DAI. lol.. Good reasoning there.

 

Just kind of a shame we can't do direct imports. I feel a bit in limbo on what DA Keep is going to be. I wonder how much personalization we'll get to have (character names and such).

 

Same, and I am a bit afraid some side quests won't have an impact, since it might be seen as "minor". 



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Same, and I am a bit afraid some side quests won't have an impact, since it might be seen as "minor". 

 

Then perhaps if the Keep doesn't give the option of altering choices made in that specific "minor" quests, then perhaps it wouldn't have played any sort of role in future installments, no?



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Yeah, I can still play for enjoyment. And it is too long to wait for DAI. lol.. Good reasoning there.

 

Just kind of a shame we can't do direct imports. I feel a bit in limbo on what DA Keep is going to be. I wonder how much personalization we'll get to have (character names and such).

 

I really wish I had been around the fandom when the Keep was announced. I would have had a chance at the beta. Now, it's kinda likely that I won't get to try out the Keep until it's released...which very may well be released at the same time as DA:I, and not before. (PSST! IF ANY BIOWARE EMPLOYEES ARE READING THIS POST, JUST KNOW THAT WE'D BE VERY VERY HAPPY WITH HAVING THE KEEP RELEASED PRIOR TO INQUISITION'S RELEASE. KTHNX BYE)

 

I really hope that we can be very intricate with our details. I mean, it is suggested at the end of DA:O that if Connor is alive, he might have a demon still inside of him. If you found that woman's kid brother in Redcliffe, used his sword, and returned it, then that kid turns out to be a great hero, claiming that his sword was once used by the Hero of Fereldon. Part of what I truly love about Dragon's Age is the ability to make all these little choices that impact the ending of your game. I'd love to have those choices reflected in the Keep, even if some of them do nothing to affect Inquisition. Those choices we made are like trophies of the many hours we've spent actually playing the game.

 

Last I heard, there were, and I quote, 'dozens' of choices you can make in the keep, and that wasn't the end of the list. (Game Informer talked about it with Mike Laidlaw in this podcast at around the 3:36 mark.)



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I believe Allan (or someone at BW) mentioned that the Keep will be released a few weeks before Inquisition, though unfortunately I don't have a quote to share.



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Then perhaps if the Keep doesn't give the option of altering choices made in that specific "minor" quests, then perhaps it wouldn't have played any sort of role in future installments, no?

 

Eh, makes sense. Though I still hope they will show up.



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I really wish I had been around the fandom when the Keep was announced. I would have had a chance at the beta. Now, it's kinda likely that I won't get to try out the Keep until it's released...which very may well be released at the same time as DA:I, and not before. (PSST! IF ANY BIOWARE EMPLOYEES ARE READING THIS POST, JUST KNOW THAT WE'D BE VERY VERY HAPPY WITH HAVING THE KEEP RELEASED PRIOR TO INQUISITION'S RELEASE. KTHNX BYE)

 

You can still sign up for the beta here. Calling it a beta is actually a bit of a misnomer, because they're going to let in huge numbers of players eventually, to test out the server load.

 

The Keep will also be released a few weeks or a month-ish before DA:I launches. 

 

Wouldn't it be better to search for some of this info before making those kind of assumptions?



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Same, and I am a bit afraid some side quests won't have an impact, since it might be seen as "minor". 

 

Eventually they're going to have to draw the line somewhere though, and say something is just too minor to show up in future games. Mass Effect had enough trouble carrying decisions over effectively, and that was set in a much smaller timeframe that had a consistent protagonist. What would the Inquisitor know or care about a decision the Warden made in a sidequest ten years previously? 

 

We have to be realistic about how many separate quests can have an impact, what sorts of impacts they have, and the amount of resources they have to spend on callbacks to previous games versus creating new stuff that everyone sees. The save-file mechanic adds a nice touch of personalisation to the gameworld, but I've only ever seen it as an added bonus that pops up from time to time - not a system in which literally every decision is going to have a thoughtful consequence in two games' time. 



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Wouldn't it be better to search for some of this info before making those kind of assumptions?

 

Well that is quite rude of you to say. Perhaps you should ask if I had already signed up before making the assumption? Of course I have read the FAQ. Of course I have already signed up. I did not know that they would allow a large amount of users to test it later on. Their exact wording was, "At first, we’ll start with a small group of testers. As we approach our launch date, we’ll invite more and more people to help us gather additional feedback and stress test our systems." This, of course, implies that more will be chosen. It does not state how many.



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Then it's hardly reasonable to freak out about missing the beta when we simply don't know when it is, how it operates or how many people will be chosen.



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So there's no point in playing DAO and DA2 now?
 
Or.. err.. no point in keeping the save files? Bummer.

No point in trying for a perfect game when you can make it up as you go along. Don't even need to buy the first couple of games. Old choices don't matter. New players get the same out come for cheap.
While I hate the idea of the keep, I like the idea of not having to play all the intros.



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Then it's hardly reasonable to freak out about missing the beta when we simply don't know when it is, how it operates or how many people will be chosen.

 

I would hardly label my post as a 'freak out'. It was conversation. If I were freaking out about it, I'd be creating a thread begging to be admitted into the beta (which is absolutely ridiculous), bothering employees via twitter, etc. Forums were made for discussion. Anyhow, before this gets out of hand, I will simply not reply to further posts from you.


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*politely interjects*
Okay! So, aesthetically speaking, I hope The Keep has some good background visuals. Any word on what The Keep will actually look like?

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I am confused. Has Bioware started the beta yet or not?



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is there any reason for me to replay DAO and DAII on my new pc to import to Dragon Age: Inquisition?

 

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no, you be able to recreate your save in the Dragon Age Keep



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Sorry if this is off-topic - I don't think it is, but you never know.  I'm probably being a bit simple here, but I haven't been able to find an answer to my question, so here goes.  Is there any concrete info yet on whether we're going to have to pay to use the Keep?  I'm on the 360 and unless I pay a subscription to Microsoft I can't even browse the web from my console (I don't want to, I have a desktop computer for that, but that's not the point).  It's been said (I think in this thread) that any console that can access a web-browser will be able to access the Keep - so does that mean those of us with a tired old 360 will need to buy a premium subscription from Xbox Live before we can access it?  I'm curious.  Apologies once again if I've missed something really obvious - I did search pretty exhaustively before posting this.



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Sorry if this is off-topic - I don't think it is, but you never know. I'm probably being a bit simple here, but I haven't been able to find an answer to my question, so here goes. Is there any concrete info yet on whether we're going to have to pay to use the Keep? I'm on the 360 and unless I pay a subscription to Microsoft I can't even browse the web from my console (I don't want to, I have a desktop computer for that, but that's not the point). It's been said (I think in this thread) that any console that can access a web-browser will be able to access the Keep - so does that mean those of us with a tired old 360 will need to buy a premium subscription from Xbox Live before we can access it? I'm curious. Apologies once again if I've missed something really obvious - I did search pretty exhaustively before posting this.


The Keep is absolutely free.

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Eventually they're going to have to draw the line somewhere though, and say something is just too minor to show up in future games. Mass Effect had enough trouble carrying decisions over effectively, and that was set in a much smaller timeframe that had a consistent protagonist. What would the Inquisitor know or care about a decision the Warden made in a sidequest ten years previously? 

 

We have to be realistic about how many separate quests can have an impact, what sorts of impacts they have, and the amount of resources they have to spend on callbacks to previous games versus creating new stuff that everyone sees. The save-file mechanic adds a nice touch of personalisation to the gameworld, but I've only ever seen it as an added bonus that pops up from time to time - not a system in which literally every decision is going to have a thoughtful consequence in two games' time. 

 

Of course there is going to be a line somewhere on what is going to be actually imported.

 

But what I would love is if we were able to pick minor decisions in the keep anyway, regardless if it matters or not. Like for example, if what you do with Connor doesn't matter at all in inquisition, it'd still be cool to say what you did when answering the questions in the Keep.

 

It'd give the impression of you shaping the world exactly how you want it to, regardless if you actually seeing that quest or choice make a difference in DAI. The more personalised and numerous choices in the keep the better. Very cool for roleplaying purposes at least. I hope they do something like that.



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I know we've been a bit quiet recently, but we'll have a bunch more info 'really soon'.  And we'll definitely be able to answer more specific questions as we get closer to launch.  

 

But in the meantime I couldn't help notice that some of the recent questions here about Keep, incl whether devs said this or that, I had actually talked about on this youtube interview (in case some of you hadn't come across it yet, and wanted to hear it from the "horse's mouth" as it were ^_^ ).

 

Also, Keep beta sign-ups are still open. Folks are not picked by 'first come, first serve', so even if you register now you still have just as much chance as anyone to get in.  Good luck.

 

Lastly, I know some of you are not on twitter, but even if you don't have an account (and don't create an account) you can still keep an eye on #dragonagekeep  (or your fav dev or official account for that matter, by replacing #dragonagekeep with their twitter name ;) ).

 

Between the BW blog, here on the forums, and twitter, you'll have all the latest Keep info we can share. 

 

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It'd give the impression of you shaping the world exactly how you want it to, regardless if you actually seeing that quest or choice make a difference in DAI. The more personalised and numerous choices in the keep the better. Very cool for roleplaying purposes at least. I hope they do something like that.

 

Also, putting more stuff in would better conceal which decisions are important.  If we only have (ridiculous example) ten choices, we could safely assume all of them would probably be important in Inquisition. If there were (another ridiculous example) five hundred, we'd have no way of knowing what might actually turn out to be significant.

 

Not to mention that storing the information now would allow them to use it in future games even if they don't want it for Inquisition.


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I know we've been a bit quiet recently, but we'll have a bunch more info 'really soon'.  And we'll definitely be able to answer more specific questions as we get closer to launch.

 

Some folks just like to have their hand held through new information! Thanks Mr Melo! :)



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Of course there is going to be a line somewhere on what is going to be actually imported.

 

But what I would love is if we were able to pick minor decisions in the keep anyway, regardless if it matters or not. Like for example, if what you do with Connor doesn't matter at all in inquisition, it'd still be cool to say what you did when answering the questions in the Keep.

 

It'd give the impression of you shaping the world exactly how you want it to, regardless if you actually seeing that quest or choice make a difference in DAI. The more personalised and numerous choices in the keep the better. Very cool for roleplaying purposes at least. I hope they do something like that.

 

That's fair enough. The FAQ says you can fill in as much or as little as you want, so I hope they put in loads of decisions too.

 

And like they've said previously, even if they don't use those choices in DA:I, there's every chance they might be in DA 4 or 5. Now that they're on the cloud somewhere, those saves can continue indefinitely rather than being trapped in physical consoles. 



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Also, putting more stuff in would better conceal which decisions are important.  If we only have (ridiculous example) ten choices, we could safely assume all of them would probably be important in Inquisition. If there were (another ridiculous example) five hundred, we'd have no way of knowing what might actually turn out to be significant.

 

Not to mention that storing the information now would allow them to use it in future games even if they don't want it for Inquisition.

 

Exactly :)