I didn't say that - I did say that it could probably happen given that the character is technically no longer in your control, no?Reidbynature wrote...
Well if you guys say that's what will happen then it must be true.
Yes, it's this thread again. Warden & Hawke will defenitely be in DA:I.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:20
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:24
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Just saying that the doomsday scenario may not be the one that happens. Not everyone may be so torn up about their Warden acting exactly as they pictured them in their mind when making all those choices in Origins.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:24
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Well, I could spend the next 24 hours piling up all the evidence about Hawke & the Warden appearing in DA:I. But I don't want to do that. The reason I created this thread for specifically that line of text is because that, to me, seems like the final confirmation that those two characters will be featured in the game.
Please do, because you don't have a shred of "evidence" and merely assumptions and extrapolations.
Prove me wrong.
And as for the line, if you'll recall DA ][ it mentions the Warden--the Warden's race and/or class at particular times--specifically, but nowhere did the Warden appear (nor was it necessary).
You're making large leaps.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:26
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No thank you very much.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:30
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We are talking about characters that players themselves shaped -- I feel, based on what I've come to experience with fan expectations for BioWare games, that a Warden & Hawke cameo is a recipe for outcry and disappointment. The alternative could be more than just vague references, instead of an actual appearance, perhaps confirmation that they are alive and well fighting Darkspawn or whatever. I don't know though -- I'll wait and see how BioWare works this out.Reidbynature wrote...
Just saying that the doomsday scenario may not be the one that happens. Not everyone may be so torn up about their Warden acting exactly as they pictured them in their mind when making all those choices in Origins.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:31
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The keep is an app or tool that they are creating as an alternative to using your save data on the home consule you are using or if you plan to play on a next gen that will allow players to customize and tailor the world the way that we want, including how we modified our warden and hawke and save it to to cloud storage and use that to start a game of inquisition.
Essentially it's like importing but without having to go back and replay the games to get the worlds you want, you can just use the app to create the worlds you want as many times as you want and save it to the cloud and use it in place of your save data.
I'm not sure what to make of this since it's a risky move and can blow up in their face if they don't handle this carefully.
Essentially it's like importing but without having to go back and replay the games to get the worlds you want, you can just use the app to create the worlds you want as many times as you want and save it to the cloud and use it in place of your save data.
I'm not sure what to make of this since it's a risky move and can blow up in their face if they don't handle this carefully.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:34
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Well, time to make my warden look like a supermodel and hack/Hawke look like the elephant man.
Yes, I'm immature.
Yes, I'm immature.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:34
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I'm sure there's people that wouldn't care if the Warden showed up as a chaotic evil dwarf with an IQ in the single digits that had to be killed in a sidequest.Reidbynature wrote...
Just saying that the doomsday scenario may not be the one that happens. Not everyone may be so torn up about their Warden acting exactly as they pictured them in their mind when making all those choices in Origins.
"Very bold move by Bioware!"
Doesn't exactly make it a good idea. The franchise isn't about the Warden, it's not about Hawke. Dragging them along into new installments sets a bad precedent and runs risks against the player's investment in the franchise.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:35
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TheChris92 wrote...
We are talking about characters that players themselves shaped -- I feel, based on what I've come to experience with fan expectations for BioWare games, that a Warden & Hawke cameo is a recipe for outcry and disappointment. The alternative could be more than just vague references, instead of an actual appearance, perhaps confirmation that they are alive and well fighting Darkspawn or whatever. I don't know though -- I'll wait and see how BioWare works this out.
I see some make the assumption that most DA players are generally incredibly precious about our playthroughs as the Warden or Hawke and that taking them out of our control is a 'betrayal' or whatever. I'm not convinced they speak for the majority of the BSN let alone the entire audience for the games. I don't think the BSN will suddenly fall apart if they appeared.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:35
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Ugh, great. It's time for another DA:A moment and more overwriting of all my characters.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:37
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Taleroth wrote...
I'm sure there's people that wouldn't care if the Warden showed up as a chaotic evil dwarf with an IQ in the single digits that had to be killed in a sidequest.
"Very bold move by Bioware!"
Doesn't exactly make it a good idea. The franchise isn't about the Warden, it's not about Hawke. Dragging them along into new installments sets a bad precedent and runs risks against the player's investment in the franchise.
And that's a likely scenario in your mind?
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:39
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And I don't think "it's not the end of the world, man" is a very good argument.Reidbynature wrote...
I don't think the BSN will suddenly fall apart if they appeared.
It doesn't have to be total self-destructive to be a bad idea. The ME3 ending didn't kill BSN, but that doesn't mean it was good.
No, but it wasn't meant to be. It was a counter to your claim it wouldn't matter.Reidbynature wrote...
And that's a likely scenario in your mind?
If it didn't matter, you wouldn't care whether that was likely or not.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:39
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But of course people are precious/passionate about their game, protagonist, characters, choices etc. Otherwise there wouldn't be an 'Extended Cut' for ME3. Fall apart is probably an exaggeration, but I don't doubt there'll be loud outcries of disappointment. BSN isn't BioWare fans incarnate after all, there are plenty of them outside these forums. My previous experience with this forum though, and people's passion for their Warden to reappear, (this thread is only one of many) gives me the idea that how the Warden is handled is very important to a lot of fans.Reidbynature wrote...
I see some make the assumption that most DA players are generally incredibly precious about our playthroughs as the Warden or Hawke and that taking them out of our control is a 'betrayal' or whatever. I'm not convinced they speak for the majority of the BSN let alone the entire audience for the games. I don't think the BSN will suddenly fall apart if they appeared.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:42
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Call me a sceptic. Warden/Hawke reappearing =/= ME3 ending.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:43
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Taleroth wrote...
No, but it wasn't meant to be. It was a counter to your claim it wouldn't matter.
I said that?
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:44
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Yup totally agree. Just throw in some mentions of my warden/hawke and I'll be fine. I rather have no cameo than a really bad one.dreamgazer wrote...
Why are people so interested in the idea of BioWare taking control of their previous PCs (including voice-acting for the Warden) and forcing them into concrete positions in DA:I? Do you guys not realize how poorly this could turn out, how poorly it'd turn out under any developer's roof?
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:45
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I still don't understand why anyone would want to have their previous characters appear in a new game where you are playing as someone else. The world state, codex entries and perhaps some conversational mention is all that is needed...at most.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:45
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The ending of ME3 was disappointing to some people because of how the fate of some characters were handled, among other things obviously. My original point was that due to fan's passion for the characters, the game, etc. The Extended Cut happened. If it didn't matter then I imagine that would have been the end of it right there. The difference between Mass Effect & Dragon Age though is that every Dragon Age game has been a new installment in a larger world, whereas Mass Effect is a trilogy. You'd probably end up getting invested in the characters that way.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:45
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No they will not be. Stop asking for it.
They will be mentioned, which is why the details of your Warden and Hawke are important.
They will be mentioned, which is why the details of your Warden and Hawke are important.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:47
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You put it in a bit more hyperbolic terms.Reidbynature wrote...
Taleroth wrote...
No, but it wasn't meant to be. It was a counter to your claim it wouldn't matter.
I said that?
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:52
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what wrong with them coming back? do you hate your own characters? the two most influential persons disappearing when the world going through hell they have to be doing something.I personal would like to fight my old characters.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:52
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They just want to know a few details about your Wardens and Hawkes, so they can display the appropriate messages on their headstones. 
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They just want to know a few details about your Wardens and Hawkes, so they can display the appropriate messages on their headstones.
haha your evil
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 07:59
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By modify, I think it means Elves/Dwarf/Human or Mage/Non-mage
It wouldn't make sense if the dwarves called your warden a paragon because only dwarven PC can become Paragons. Or it wouldn't make sense if some NPC said "The Champion was a mage and he saved Kirkwall from the Qunari" if you're champion wasn't a mage.
It wouldn't make sense if the dwarves called your warden a paragon because only dwarven PC can become Paragons. Or it wouldn't make sense if some NPC said "The Champion was a mage and he saved Kirkwall from the Qunari" if you're champion wasn't a mage.
