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[AresKeith]

Volus Warlord wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No they don't.

Here is what I'm guessing is the logic that runs through your heads upon seeing an attractive character.

#1. Alice is attractive!
#2. Alive doesn't have to be attractive! The plot would function without it. Her character would function without it. Why is she attractive?
#3. BioWare must have made her attractive because they want 13 year old boys and basement dwellers playing their game! There's no other reason! It's so obvious!!!

That about right?

Yes they do.  Hotness is first and foremost marketing in every aspect. 

The game wouldn't sell as much if the characters were fugly. Miranda wouldn't have nearly as many fans if she looked average. Why do you think that stupid bridge troll Aveline Vallen has such a small following? 

I liked Aveline 

But not in a romance way lol

[David7204]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yes they do.  Hotness is first and foremost marketing in every aspect. 

The game wouldn't sell as much if the characters were fugly. Miranda wouldn't have nearly as many fans if she looked average. Why do you think that stupid bridge troll Aveline Vallen has such a small following? 

Why don't you explain to me why exactly you think stories which have utterly no advertising still often have attractive characters? Because that seems to make little sense to me if the purpose of making characters attractive is marketing.

Unless you're using a very silly definition of 'marketing' as 'anything which makes the game better and hence makes people want to play it.' Which would be stupid, because then literally any good quality of the game could be accused and insulted as 'marketing' and the term would become meaningless. That's surely not the case, is it?

Modifié par David7204, 28 août 2013 - 09:04 .

[Bekkael]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Dark haired women with attitude are always available for romance in Bioware games. Just look at Bastilla, Ashley, Morrigan, Miranda and Isabela.

Also, Dawn Star, although I suppose everyone in Jade Empire had dark hair.

Sky.

[Lord Raijin]

If I couldn't romance the Knight-Commander Meredith (She needed all the loving that she can get) I sure as hell hope to romance Cassandra! I demand it

[Volus Warlord]

David7204 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yes they do.  Hotness is first and foremost marketing in every aspect. 

The game wouldn't sell as much if the characters were fugly. Miranda wouldn't have nearly as many fans if she looked average. Why do you think that stupid bridge troll Aveline Vallen has such a small following? 

Why don't you explain to me why exactly you think stories which have utterly no advertising still often have attractive characters? Because that seems to make little sense to me if the purpose of making characters attractive is marketing.

Unless you're using a very silly definition of 'marketing' as 'anything which makes the game better and hence makes people want to play it.' Which would be stupid, because then literally any good quality of the game could be accused and insulted as 'marketing' and the term would become meaningless. That's surely not the case, is it?

Characterization? 

Think, genius. Which is gonna attract more attention (and by extension, more money) a character that looks like they were hit by a bus 3 times at age 5 or one that wouldn't look out of place in Miss America?

[Volus Warlord]

AresKeith wrote...
liked Aveline 

But not in a romance way lol

You're the exception that proves the rule

[WildOrchid]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Dark haired women with attitude are always available for romance in Bioware games. Just look at Bastilla, Ashley, Morrigan, Miranda and Isabela.

And she better be available for female inquisitor. I don't want to have another Miranda and Ashley. Even Morrigan,<_<

Modifié par WildOrchid, 28 août 2013 - 09:11 .

[David7204]

Do you understand what the words 'no advertising' mean?

[Shadow Fox]

David it's called sex sells

[David7204]

Sex does sell.

But it's foolish to assume that's all it does. And as I continue to point out, that clearly makes no sense for a story without advertising.

Modifié par David7204, 28 août 2013 - 09:13 .

[Herr Uhl]

Bekkael wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Dark haired women with attitude are always available for romance in Bioware games. Just look at Bastilla, Ashley, Morrigan, Miranda and Isabela.

Also, Dawn Star, although I suppose everyone in Jade Empire had dark hair.

Sky.

I think Silk Fox has a bit more attitude than Dawn Star.

[KennethAFTopp]

Romancable characters in BioWare games should be like KinderEggs.

[GreyLycanTrope]

dreamgazer wrote...

It confirms a lack of confirmation of anything.

Can we confirm that?

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 28 août 2013 - 09:14 .

[Volus Warlord]

David7204 wrote...

Sex does sell.

But it's foolish to assume that's all it does. And as I continue to point out, that clearly makes no sense for a story without advertising.

Assuming no advertising is pretty damn foolish in the Dragon Age situation.

[Bekkael]

WildOrchid wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Dark haired women with attitude are always available for romance in Bioware games. Just look at Bastilla, Ashley, Morrigan, Miranda and Isabela.

And she better be available for female inquisitor. I don't want to have another Miranda and Ashley. Even Morrigan,<_<

Don't worry, this is Dragon Age. As of DA2, everyone is bi.

[David7204]

Volus Warlord wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Sex does sell.

But it's foolish to assume that's all it does. And as I continue to point out, that clearly makes no sense for a story without advertising.

Assuming no advertising is pretty damn foolish in the Dragon Age situation.

I'm not talking about Dragon Age alone. I'm talking about every story in existence with attractive characters, many of which have no advertising whatsoever. I'd like you to explain to me why characters in those stories specifically are attractive.

Modifié par David7204, 28 août 2013 - 09:17 .

[Bekkael]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Dark haired women with attitude are always available for romance in Bioware games. Just look at Bastilla, Ashley, Morrigan, Miranda and Isabela.

Also, Dawn Star, although I suppose everyone in Jade Empire had dark hair.

Sky.

I think Silk Fox has a bit more attitude than Dawn Star.

She does. I think she's more the "evil" choice while Dawn Star is "good". I only ever played females though, so Sky was my one and only romance choice.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Bekkael wrote...

WildOrchid wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Dark haired women with attitude are always available for romance in Bioware games. Just look at Bastilla, Ashley, Morrigan, Miranda and Isabela.

And she better be available for female inquisitor. I don't want to have another Miranda and Ashley. Even Morrigan,<_<

Don't worry, this is Dragon Age. As of DA2, everyone is bi.

Not Sebastian.... Royalty makes you heterosexual in the DA universe.
Edit: I'm joking before somebody gets angry.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 28 août 2013 - 09:19 .

[Bekkael]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

If this means that neither Cassandra or Vivienne are romance options, then good. I certainly wasn't planning on banging either of them if I had the option.

Now don't hold back on how you really feel.

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Sex does sell.

But it's foolish to assume that's all it does. And as I continue to point out, that clearly makes no sense for a story without advertising.

Assuming no advertising is pretty damn foolish in the Dragon Age situation.

I'm not talking about Dragon Age alone. I'm talking about every story in existence with attractive characters, many of which have no advertising whatsoever. I'd like you to explain to me why characters in those stories specifically are attractive.

Isn't that something you should do considering you're the one promoting the idea that sex appeal does more than sell?

[David7204]

It's Socratic Irony. I know the answer.

[Bekkael]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

WildOrchid wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Dark haired women with attitude are always available for romance in Bioware games. Just look at Bastilla, Ashley, Morrigan, Miranda and Isabela.

And she better be available for female inquisitor. I don't want to have another Miranda and Ashley. Even Morrigan,<_<

Don't worry, this is Dragon Age. As of DA2, everyone is bi.

Not Sebastian.... Royalty makes you heterosexual in the DA universe.
Edit: I'm joking before somebody gets angry.

LOL, I forgot about him. His bones are not jumpable, so I don't actually consider him a romance anyway. I romanced Anders and Fenris, but Sebastian was too much trouble (no flirting allowed!) for no payoff. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's a romantic tease, which is what I consider Seb.

[Angrywolves]

We'll find out at some point.
Patience is a virtue.

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...
It's Socratic Irony. I know the answer.

So he'll tell you "sex appeal" and you'll be back to square one? Productive.