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[Herr Uhl]

David7204 wrote...

Oh my god. This is not that hard to grasp.

Characters cannot possible 'draw people in' when people don't even know about them.

Which female characters in DAO and DA2 have the most overt sex appeal? Which ones were used for advertising?

[Taleroth]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No. That's not true. The primary purpose of sex appeal is not to draw people in.

Consider EDI. Her body never shows up in advertising. It's not on the box. As far as I know, BioWare didn't release any information pre-release about it. She's not a love interest.

And yet, she's still attractive. Why is that, then? How could she 'draw people in' when she's invisible? 

You're kidding right?She's textbook fetish fuel.

Fetish fuel is not always intentional.

Given a combination of factors, such as her design appearing to have clear inspiration from Maria, rendering her an homage, and that the artist intent isn't always identical to the design intent, parring down the design to something as simple as "sex appeal" seems difficult.

Take the cameltoe in the costume for example. That can not be explained. Just why?

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...

No. That's not true. The primary purpose of sex appeal is not to draw people in. Consider EDI. Her body never shows up in advertising. It's not on the box. As far as I know, BioWare didn't release any information pre-release about it.

And yet, she's still attractive.

I said draw people into characters. Not all characters will be used in advertisments specifically not those that haven't been announced as squad mates so to not spoil the story. I don't recall have had a full companion roaster before ME3 launch, much less one with EDI.

[Cainhurst Crow]

David7204 wrote...

Oh my god. This is not that hard to grasp.

Characters cannot possible 'draw people in' when people don't even know about them. People are not going to buy a product full of attractive women if they don't know attractive women exist in it. Is that logic clear enough?

There;s more than one way to have sex appeal, and it doesn't need to be all in just the advertised parts of the game.

[RedArmyShogun]

Oh God the horror.

[David7204]

Jayne126 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Oh my god. This is not that hard to grasp.

Characters cannot possible 'draw people in' when people don't even know about them.

They can.

You're on the bsn for christ sake, you should know that at first look.

No, you can't say that, because it's a double standard that doesn't apply.

Under that logic, you could argue any feature of the game is for the purpose of marketing and attracting nerds!

Good gameplay? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.
Pretty graphics? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.
A good story? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.

Clearly, that's ridicuous.

Modifié par David7204, 28 août 2013 - 09:53 .

[In Exile]

Maria Caliban wrote...
If that statement is literally true, then yes, it would confirm that Cassandra, Verric, and Vivianne weren't romancable.

He meant 'BioWare has not announced which characters can be romanced yet.'

I'm aware My position is that the sentence is ambiguous, and that as written it does not invariably mean that all of the characters currently announced are not romanceable. 

[AresKeith]

I like how David derailed the thread from unconfirmed romance to sex appeal

[Mashiro Yuki]

Volus Warlord wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No they don't.

Here is what I'm guessing is the logic that runs through your heads upon seeing an attractive character.

#1. Alice is attractive!
#2. Alive doesn't have to be attractive! The plot would function without it. Her character would function without it. Why is she attractive?
#3. BioWare must have made her attractive because they want 13 year old boys and basement dwellers playing their game! There's no other reason! It's so obvious!!!

That about right?

Yes they do.  Hotness is first and foremost marketing in every aspect. 

The game wouldn't sell as much if the characters were fugly. Miranda wouldn't have nearly as many fans if she looked average. Why do you think that stupid bridge troll Aveline Vallen has such a small following? 

I don't think it's fair to say characters are ONLY attractive to attract pervy male players. It could just be part of their character. Not that people don't take advantage of the fact that "sex sells", but eh. That doesn't have to mean all video game characters are attractive for that one reason. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not extremely common, but surely there are plenty of games, movies, books, comics, and shows that sell quite well without taking advantage of a pretty face, y'know? 

And I actually thought Aveline was pretty. >.>
I certainly liked her more than Merril or Meryl or whatever the hell her name was. Ditzy is fine, but she was a complete moron, I swear, lol. 

[The Night Mammoth]

Good gameplay makes me a little hot under the collar, to be honest. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 28 août 2013 - 09:56 .

[David7204]

Someone explain to me. If the purpose of attractive characters is marketing, then why are plenty of characters entirely absent in advertising still attractive? What's the purpose of it?

Modifié par David7204, 28 août 2013 - 09:55 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

David7204 wrote...

Jayne126 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Oh my god. This is not that hard to grasp.

Characters cannot possible 'draw people in' when people don't even know about them.

They can.

You're on the bsn for christ sake, you should know that at first look.

No, you can't say that, because it's a double standard that doesn't apply.

Under that logic, you could argue any feature of the game is for the purpose of marketing and attracting nerds!

Good gameplay? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.
Pretty graphics? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.
A good story? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.

Clearly, that's ridicuous.

I though good gameplay attracted the action crowd? And that pretty graphics were for the PC gangs? And that a good story was the only place in which "nerds" counted?

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...
No, you can't say that, because it's a double standard that doesn't apply.

Under that logic, you could argue any feature of the game is for the purpose of marketing and attracting nerds!

Good gameplay? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.
Pretty graphics? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.
A good story? It must exist for marketing and to attract nerds.

Clearly, that's ridicuous.

I don't see anyone advertising bad gameplay, sh*tty graphics, and crap stories tbh. Geeks like me don't much care for it.

[Cainhurst Crow]

David7204 wrote...

Someone explain to me. If the purpose of attractive characters is marketing, then why are plenty of characters entirely absent in advertising still attractive?

But isn't sex appeal something that can apply to more than just marketing as well? Like, make a character sexy and people will be more drawn to them than they will ugly looking people? Unless those ugly people are extra hideous?

[spirosz]

Volus Warlord wrote...

It confirms absolutely nothing.

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

Someone explain to me. If the purpose of attractive characters is marketing, then why are plenty of characters entirely absent in advertising still attractive? What's the purpose of it?

Characterization

[Maria Caliban]

In Exile wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
If that statement is literally true, then yes, it would confirm that Cassandra, Verric, and Vivianne weren't romancable.

He meant 'BioWare has not announced which characters can be romanced yet.'

I'm aware My position is that the sentence is ambiguous, and that as written it does not invariably mean that all of the characters currently announced are not romanceable. 

The sentence isn't ambiguous; the writer just said something different than what they meant.

Earlier today, I told someone that I was worried a joke I made was inoffensive. They corrected me and pointed out that I meant I was worried it was offensive. My statement wasn't ambiguous, I just said the wrong thing.

There's nothing ambiguous about the statement 'BioWare has not announced any of the character that can be romanced yet,' but it probably means something other than what the author intended.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 28 août 2013 - 09:57 .

[dreamgazer]

AresKeith wrote...

I like how David derailed the thread from unconfirmed romance to sex appeal

Shhhh.  This is more fun.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

Someone explain to me. If the purpose of attractive characters is marketing, then why are plenty of characters entirely absent in advertising still attractive? What's the purpose of it?

To get shallow casuals like yourself to buy the game.

[spirosz]

Jesus christ BSN.

Some threads that are made....

[David7204]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Someone explain to me. If the purpose of attractive characters is marketing, then why are plenty of characters entirely absent in advertising still attractive?

But isn't sex appeal something that can apply to more than just marketing as well? Like, make a character sexy and people will be more drawn to them than they will ugly looking people? Unless those ugly people are extra hideous?

And here we go. This is what I was waiting for.

But isn't sex appeal something that can apply to more than just marketing as well?

So, we're considering the idea that the purpose of sex appeal is not marketing? Evveryone seemed to be sure that was the purpose just a while ago. Is this a voice of dissent?

Modifié par David7204, 28 août 2013 - 09:58 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...
Someone explain to me. If the purpose of attractive characters is marketing, then why are plenty of characters entirely absent in advertising still attractive? What's the purpose of it?

To get your attention so you interact with them. To draw you in, in other words.