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[IamZAE]

stysiaq wrote...

I'd say IamZAE

+1 thanks!!! 
when i think of best kit, i think of best kit for the MAJORITY of players, and the main base of players are random pugs who arent BSNers. sure HIgh damage squishy kits appear stronger, but its the kits with high sirvivability have an overall better chance of mission success, because those kits are good even to terrible players.

juggernaut, tgi by far are better overall easily then the GI. you guys need to learn at the big picture

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

A hell of a lot of stupidity in this thread.

[Chromatix]

gnsmsk wrote...

Best character? Juggy. After the GI? No.

Some say you don't die if you're killing (pointing at high DPS).
I say, I'm killing if I'm not dead (pointing at high survivability).

Just waiting for my spitfire to reach level X.

There are kits who have insane survivability, but also have a mobility and damage boosts.

TGI, AIU, Krogan Sentinel for example. 

Modifié par Chromatix, 29 août 2013 - 10:13 .

[Cohen le Barbare]

GI without hunter mode and a geth shotgun or javelin. Now that's good damage and survivability.

[DHKany]

I want to see TGIs, Juggernauts and what not keep up with the GI whilst all of them are using predators.

Seriously, just because the Reegar/High level URs grants you monster DPS does not mean they are the best characters in the game.

[Chromatix]

DHKany wrote...

I want to see TGIs, Juggernauts and what not keep up with the GI whilst all of them are using predators.

Seriously, just because the Reegar/High level URs grants you monster DPS does not mean they are the best characters in the game.

Weapons > Powers in this game.

+ We're talking about 1337 phase of game. When you don't have, say, Raider or Claymore - which is rare and totally rape anything when used on said kits - every class does suck. 

What are Casters are capable of without their Power Amps and Power Gear, comprared even to Avenger TGI or GI? Nothing. 

Modifié par Chromatix, 29 août 2013 - 10:37 .

[snackrat]

I vote Paladin, for its sheer combo ability, flexibily, and shield drain survivability. Pop on a Lancer or Hurricane and you're good to go. Might not have really big damage numbers, but it is adaptable and capable of stripping all defense types with tech, fire, and cryo combo options.

[DHKany]

Chromatix wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I want to see TGIs, Juggernauts and what not keep up with the GI whilst all of them are using predators.

Seriously, just because the Reegar/High level URs grants you monster DPS does not mean they are the best characters in the game.

Weapons > Powers in this game.

+ We're talking about 1337 phase of game. When you don't have, say, Raider or Claymore - which is rare and totally rape anything when used on said kits - every class does suck. 

What are Casters are capable of without their Power Amps and Power Gear, comprared even to Avenger TGI or GI? Nothing. 

I never brought casters into the equation. 

All I'm saying is that a GI doesn't need a specific setup to completely kick butt. TGIs with Harrier X/PPR X, Juggernaught with PPR X/Reegar X, AIU with Reegar X/Claymore X etc. etc. They essentially NEED those weapons to be dominant. 

All the GI needs are some commons/uncommons to start dominating. 

[SKhalazza]

I've never noticed that Tsol has the same burst dps than a fully buffed GI. Quarian marksman is even better
TSol or Quarian marksman should be the second best kit for BSN.

I may miss something ? Can someone else do the math between :
QM : Full damage + ROF marksman + Tactical scan with weapon bonus
VS
GI : Full damage + Prox mine + Damage TC + weapon HM.

Modifié par SKhalazza, 29 août 2013 - 11:13 .

[Chromatix]

DHKany wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I want to see TGIs, Juggernauts and what not keep up with the GI whilst all of them are using predators.

Seriously, just because the Reegar/High level URs grants you monster DPS does not mean they are the best characters in the game.

Weapons > Powers in this game.

+ We're talking about 1337 phase of game. When you don't have, say, Raider or Claymore - which is rare and totally rape anything when used on said kits - every class does suck. 

What are Casters are capable of without their Power Amps and Power Gear, comprared even to Avenger TGI or GI? Nothing. 

I never brought casters into the equation. 

All I'm saying is that a GI doesn't need a specific setup to completely kick butt. TGIs with Harrier X/PPR X, Juggernaught with PPR X/Reegar X, AIU with Reegar X/Claymore X etc. etc. They essentially NEED those weapons to be dominant. 

All the GI needs are some commons/uncommons to start dominating. 

Most of the BSN playerbase have those weapon so it's really makes no sense to point this out.

Those classes also don't need those weapons to dominant. They will always be 2 steps behind from GI. So it doesn't really matter if we comprare Harrier TGI to Harrier GI or Phaeston GI to Phaeston TGI

[tonton_guitou]

Volus engineer

[Simba501]

DullahansXMark wrote...

AIU, pretty much. I'm not even taking the auto-revive into account here.

[Sebastianthorson]

Chromatix wrote... 

What are Casters are capable of without their Power Amps and Power Gear, comprared even to Avenger TGI or GI? х

Biotic explosions. Also, paladin with snap cheese.

[Sebastianthorson]

Chromatix wrote...
They will always be 2 steps behind from GI. So it doesn't really matter if we comprare Harrier TGI to Harrier GI or Phaeston GI to Phaeston TGI

Now compare Reegar GI to Reegar AIU.

[SKhalazza]

Sebastianthorson wrote...

Chromatix wrote...
They will always be 2 steps behind from GI. So it doesn't really matter if we comprare Harrier TGI to Harrier GI or Phaeston GI to Phaeston TGI

Now compare Reegar GI to Reegar AIU.

GI is still slightly better thanks to the ROF from hunter mode. There is no step, but the GI is still stronger.
From kalence with everything checked with ammo incendiary or armor piercing
AIU : 2360 damage
GI : 2154 at 1.15 the rate. It's in fact 2477.

[Sebastianthorson]

SKhalazza wrote...

GI is still slightly better thanks to the ROF from hunter mode. There is no step, but the GI is still stronger.
From kalence with everything checked with ammo incendiary or armor piercing
AIU : 2360 damage
GI : 2154 at 1.15 the rate. It's in fact 2477.

What was the last HM evo - damage or speed/wallhack?

[SKhalazza]

Sebastianthorson wrote...

SKhalazza wrote...

GI is still slightly better thanks to the ROF from hunter mode. There is no step, but the GI is still stronger.
From kalence with everything checked with ammo incendiary or armor piercing
AIU : 2360 damage
GI : 2154 at 1.15 the rate. It's in fact 2477.

What was the last HM evo - damage or speed/wallhack?

Full damage on everything. If you want to reproduce, you must add the ammo damage to match my numbers.

[Ferocious Panda]

DHKany wrote...

I want to see TGIs, Juggernauts and what not keep up with the GI whilst all of them are using predators.

Seriously, just because the Reegar/High level URs grants you monster DPS does not mean they are the best characters in the game.

It's not really fair to go to a weapons class and say they suck if they don't use good weapons. If you don't have any ultra rare assault rifles, then maybe you would be better off using a different character, but that doesn't take away from the potential of the TGI. We're discussing the best here, not who plays the best while seriously gimped. By your logic, wouldn't the trooper be much better than the GI because the trooper can do so much better with a predator?

[Sebastianthorson]

SKhalazza wrote...

Full damage on everything. If you want to reproduce, you must add the ammo damage to match my numbers.

So, basically, GI gets a little damage, but loses speed (which is important for reegar`s limited range) and a crapton of durability. Team synergy (priming for super-strong cryoblasts)  is just icing on the cake.

[Tokenusername]

God, this is still going?

BSN is just going to collapse from a stupidity implosion.

[Heldarion]

Tokenusername wrote...

God, this is still going?

BSN is just going to collapse from a stupidity implosion.

RedJohn threads rarely fail to deliver, eh?

[DHKany]

Tokenusername wrote...

God, this is still going?

BSN is just going to collapse from a stupidity implosion.

That happened a while back. 

[Triggafinga190]

XFG-65 wrote...

TGI. Invincible, and deals a high amount of damage. Easy to use, reliable, and effective. He has no drawbacks. He excels at absolutely everything.

WORD

[Uh Cold]

DHKany wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

God, this is still going?

BSN is just going to collapse from a stupidity implosion.

That happened a while back. 

Good times