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[RPGPerson]

iambecomedeath7 wrote...

I think they're in charge of them. I mean, how else would the Collectors get such advanced technology?

Maybe the Collectors created the Reapers?  Anything's possible.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

The Reapers use organics all the time. The entire process of indoctrination.



Sovreign even said that they would use people like Saren to ensure their return and then enslave them/kill them off when the deed is done.

[tommythetomcat]

Husks are Reaper tech, its been heavily eluded to at least, perhaps it is actually Collector tech but either way both Sovereign and the Collectors are using husks for whatever purpose so its safe to assume they share at least a small relationship.

Maybe the Collector are left out of the purge as a constant vanguard for the Reapers plots.  It would explain their highly evolved technology.

Modifié par tommythetomcat, 19 janvier 2010 - 02:33 .

[Arrtis]

I have a question...why dont the reapers just slowly come out and kill everything instead of lending reaper tech to some species so it can be stolen and copied/modified by others that would like to kill them?

[marshalleck]

Terminator 800 wrote...

Mister Mage wrote...

First of all, the Reapers can basically do whatever is convenient for the Bioware writers. They threw out any pretense of believable motive when Sovereign said "PUNY HUMAN! YOU CANNOT KNOW MY MOTIVES. I AM ENEMY BECAUSE SO THERE."

Secondly, what is telling you that the Reapers are in charge of the Collectors?

Because you defeat the Collectors at the end of ME2 and then you finally wipe the Reapers out in ME3.

It would be silly to wipe out the masters in the second act.

That would be like killing the Emperor in The Empire Strikes Back.

 That seems like an obvious assumption that a clever writer would love to turn upside-down.

[Schneidend]

Mister Mage wrote...

First of all, the Reapers can basically do whatever is convenient for the Bioware writers. They threw out any pretense of believable motive when Sovereign said "PUNY HUMAN! YOU CANNOT KNOW MY MOTIVES. I AM ENEMY BECAUSE SO THERE."

Secondly, what is telling you that the Reapers are in charge of the Collectors?

Well, considering they're essentially nigh indestructible robotic gods, what motivates them could be extremely complicated. Their ultimate goal could be so grandiose as to defy definition. They're meant to be Lovecraftian monsters in this respect. Why do you think Sovereign looks like a giant squid? Artistically, he's a Cthulu allusion.

[aragfore03]

commander_chung wrote...

aragfore03 wrote...

**POSSIBLE SPOILERS**


They've used organics before. Vigil mentions it briefly. It's even theorized that the Rachni were influenced by the Reapers and are what led to the war.

are you sure its the Rachni and not the keepers

Yep we KNOW they were using the Keepers. The Rachni link is a theory.

[pharos_gryphon]

I had always been under the assumption that husks were Geth tech. They -are- Reaper though?

[kraidy1117]

Vigil and Sovereign both confirmed that the reapers used the keepers to open the mass relay to dark space. Sigh sometimes i think people should play the games.

[tommythetomcat]

pharos_gryphon wrote...

I had always been under the assumption that husks were Geth tech. They -are- Reaper though?

Well going by the wiki.
"When Sovereign 'possesses' Saren's body, the resulting creature strongly resembles a Husk, and the Reaper indoctrination effect is similar to the 'zombie' nature of Husks, but though this suggests the dragon's teeth are Reaper technology, it is never explicitly stated. A cache of the spikes was found buried on Trebin and had to be excavated by the local research team, but there is no evidence of who put them there or why."

It seems unlikely that the Geth would bury the spikes in hopes people would stumble upon them.

[Azazel005]

It would seem a logical thing that the Collectors aren't in leauge with the reapers and their strange behavioural patterns are likely linked to trying to stop the reapers. Providing that "stare into the abyss" comparison between success at all costs (Cerberus/Collectors).



It shall be interesting to see it pan out.

[blank1]

I think the Collectors' true motives are going to come as an extreme surprise. Perhaps they are kidnapping humans to a) study how husks are made, to combat their use by Reapers (Perhaps they re-engineered some dragon teeth?), and also indexing organic life, to preserve certain species from the Reaper purge.



Probably not... but I still think that maybe the Collectors will end up having a shade of "good."

[tommythetomcat]

blank1 wrote...

I think the Collectors' true motives are going to come as an extreme surprise. Perhaps they are kidnapping humans to a) study how husks are made, to combat their use by Reapers (Perhaps they re-engineered some dragon teeth?), and also indexing organic life, to preserve certain species from the Reaper purge.

Probably not... but I still think that maybe the Collectors will end up having a shade of "good."

Indexing sounds like a cool twist.  I'm sure it is far more sinister though lol

[DonDaMon]

 the collectors collect all "in the name of science".......

[Yojimboo]

You play a whole planet around Indoctrination and still wonder about Reaper using organics? Btw it's not 100% clear if the reaper have anything to do with the collectors, they could be simply another hostile species.

[JudgeQwerty]

I don't think the Collectors are Reaper lackeys, but opportunists with access to Reaper tech. Otherwise, they'd have aided Sovereign during the first game.

[Generic User]

Who says they are working for anybody?

They are freaky insect things so maybe they're just simply evil.

[tommythetomcat]

JudgeQwerty wrote...

I don't think the Collectors are Reaper lackeys, but opportunists with access to Reaper tech. Otherwise, they'd have aided Sovereign during the first game.

It just seems odd that they are so advanced and have escaped the view of the Reapers, it seems far more likely the biological abilities of the Collectors are of use to the reapers so they allow them to survive the "reaping"

[DonDaMon]

Generic User wrote...

Who says they are working for anybody?
They are freaky insect things so maybe they're just simply evil.

I call this being prejudice.  just because they are ugly as sin doesn't mean that they are evil.

[marshalleck]

Yojimboo wrote...

You play a whole planet around Indoctrination and still wonder about Reaper using organics? Btw it's not 100% clear if the reaper have anything to do with the collectors, they could be simply another hostile species.

In the Enemies trailer, you can see Collectors and husks acting apparently in unison against colonists and also Shepard's team. So it's safe to say they aren't openly hostile to each other; either that, or Collectors are just using dragon's teeth that they somehow acquired. But beyond that, how the Collectors and Reapers regard each other is speculation.

See this video at the 1:10 minute mark (a praetorian passively passes behind a Collector) and the 1:25 mark (husks released against Shepard, fighting with the Collectors).

Modifié par marshalleck, 19 janvier 2010 - 03:35 .

[RPGPerson]

DonDaMon wrote...

Generic User wrote...

Who says they are working for anybody?
They are freaky insect things so maybe they're just simply evil.

I call this being prejudice.  just because they are ugly as sin doesn't mean that they are evil.

In real life, maybe. 

In videogames, there's usually a correlation.

[muse108]

Ummm, werent the Krogan and Saren actually helping saren despite the fact that they were Organic, or am I missing something?

[rines]

If anyone missed it, it was said the reapers would indoctrinate organics to help kill organics. And if you've seen enough video on bioware website, you'll see that the collectors are run by one big collector who controls them all. Its possible that main bad guy is indoctirnated, and all his minions follow him.

[fairandbalancedfan]

Maybe the Collectors actually want to stop the reapers. And with Humanity they may have found a glimmer of a hope. May be Collectors are the villains because their actions are so unethical, that you have to stop them.