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[crake333]

DeathCultArm wrote...

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.

Nice, man.  Your suggestion isn't clearly designed to insight more angered responses from people.  Not everyone who would respect or support the inclusion of homosexual romance in the game is gay, so encouraging us to gather all our gay friends and make a game is quite insulting, and derogatory.  Just like not everyone who supports gay marriage is gay.  Just like all abolitionists weren't black people.  Just like not everyone who would support some environmental reform is an eco-terrorist.  Just like...

Modifié par crake333, 19 janvier 2010 - 05:02 .

[ReDSH1FT]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Yes, but someone's "whining" may change future games.

It may convince some young gay kid to go and start making video games.

All these obnoxious threads may catch Bioware's notice - they may decide to add more in the future.

You may not like it - but you can't stop us from trying.

I can try.  I'll be sending emails to BioWare about why these topics need to be squashed right away.  They don't pertain to the game and they don't foster good forum health.  They OOZE animosity.  You can't argue with that, as much as I know you want to.

[AkA-AmdusciA_]

Poloman967 wrote...

Theres some new machinima episodes about the game on XBL too bad im still waiting for my RROD xbox to get back... i still love xbox, rrod makes it all the more... interesting! xD

www.youtube.com/watch
This is not even funny anymore....

[DeathCultArm]

@ Medhia Nox



No I can't, but I wish could stop you from crying..Send a email to BW...don't *** spam a thread.

[Schneidend]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Obviously you didn't grasp, or maybe you didn't even read, what he has been posting.  To anyone with reason, it would be clear that he's saying this.

YOUR WHINING WON'T CHANGE THE GAME.

There, that should be clear and concise enough for you.

Unwarranted hostility is fun!

I'm not "whining,"  complaining, or arguing whether or not there should be a gay romance option should be included in ME2. I really don't care one way or another, since I probably wouldn't pursue that option.

I'm merely arguing against Lamb's rampant misogyny, hypocrisy, and ignorant rhetoric. Those are little "pet peeves" of mine.

[TheAnima]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

We could go all day with this Anima, but we are INSTINCTUALLY afraid of the dark. And to call our brain unique is a pretty obvious statement. Every brain is unique. And you're severely mistaken by calling our brain unique because of it's ability to override instinct. I've seen male lions raised from cubs by humans have a totally different relationship than the one that would be.. instinctual.. i.e. killing them for being too close.

The human mind is capable of instinctual override at a much greater level than other animals, your example was an animal taken out of it's natural environment. However, human natural environment doesn't exist. Their ancestors probably had one, but humans do not. Further, you obviously have no proof for your instinctual argument, otherwise you wouldn't resort to capitalization, which is the forum equivalent of yelling.

As for my argument, individuals who are comfortable with sight deprivation have no fear of the dark. Blind people do no institutionally fear this lack of sense because they are already comfortable with it. This has to do with comfort, not instinct.

[DeathCultArm]

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.

Nice, man.  Your suggestion isn't clearly designed to insight more angered responses from people.  Not everyone who would respect or support the inclusion of homosexual romance in the game is gay, so encouraging us to gather all our gay friends and make a game is quite insulting, and derogatory.  Just like not everyone who supports gay marriage is gay.  Just like all abolitionists weren't black people.  Just like not everyone who would support some environmental reform is an eco-terrorist.  Just like...

Not the place to preach. I don't care about any of that..and it had nohing to do with ME2! NOTHING!

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Personally I think this has been an interesting discussion. This really isn't the best place for it though. Opinionated for certain, but I find it interesting to understand other points of views.

[TheAnima]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

Yes, but someone's "whining" may change future games.

It may convince some young gay kid to go and start making video games.

All these obnoxious threads may catch Bioware's notice - they may decide to add more in the future.

You may not like it - but you can't stop us from trying.

I can try.  I'll be sending emails to BioWare about why these topics need to be squashed right away.  They don't pertain to the game and they don't foster good forum health.  They OOZE animosity.  You can't argue with that, as much as I know you want to.

They do pertain to the game. The exclusion of homosexual options has made part of BioWare's fanbase unhappy, and BioWare would like to keep it's fanbase happy. So in the future they should include homosexual options.

[crake333]

DeathCultArm wrote...

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.

Nice, man.  Your suggestion isn't clearly designed to insight more angered responses from people.  Not everyone who would respect or support the inclusion of homosexual romance in the game is gay, so encouraging us to gather all our gay friends and make a game is quite insulting, and derogatory.  Just like not everyone who supports gay marriage is gay.  Just like all abolitionists weren't black people.  Just like not everyone who would support some environmental reform is an eco-terrorist.  Just like...

Not the place to preach. I don't care about any of that..and it had nohing to do with ME2! NOTHING!

Ha, I like how you act as though you can totally disown your comments after you make them, like you're the bigger man saying it has nothing to do with anything.  Own up to what you said and respond!  Clearly you do care about any of that, or you wouldn't have said that in the first place.  Grow some balls.

[DeathCultArm]

I don't care about what you posted..I'm just irritated. about all the pointless *** grouping hugging that's gong on in this thread.

No *** romances

/thread.

Modifié par DeathCultArm, 19 janvier 2010 - 05:09 .

[Wintersembrace]

wow i was not gonna bite but hell humans as a whole are nothing but animals

as for the me2 li who care if there's gay/strait/multi-gender while gay li might not be for me there are plenty of ppl who are for it i for one was impressed that B.W took that step in D.A it take a strong person to step out of there comfort zone and accept that there will always be ppl who enjoy the company of ss couples despite there personal beliefs

[Poloman967]

AkA-AmdusciA wrote...

Poloman967 wrote...

Theres some new machinima episodes about the game on XBL too bad im still waiting for my RROD xbox to get back... i still love xbox, rrod makes it all the more... interesting! xD

www.youtube.com/watch
This is not even funny anymore....

supposedly the rrod has been fixed with that new jasper chip that the new xbox's come with... idk    = / 

i wanna have my box to see what natal's gonna do!

[ITSSEXYTIME]

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.

Nice, man.  Your suggestion isn't clearly designed to insight more angered responses from people.  Not everyone who would respect or support the inclusion of homosexual romance in the game is gay, so encouraging us to gather all our gay friends and make a game is quite insulting, and derogatory.  Just like not everyone who supports gay marriage is gay.  Just like all abolitionists weren't black people.  Just like not everyone who would support some environmental reform is an eco-terrorist.  Just like...

Not the place to preach. I don't care about any of that..and it had nohing to do with ME2! NOTHING!

Ha, I like how you act as though you can totally disown your comments after you make them, like you're the bigger man saying it has nothing to do with anything.  Own up to what you said and respond!  Clearly you do care about any of that, or you wouldn't have said that in the first place.  Grow some balls.

Regardless of his prior statements, I think his fundamental point is that the game is finalized at this point anyway, and such threads only breed discussions such as this which are often inflammatory and do not belong on this board.

[kcp12]

DeathCultArm wrote...

I don't cae about what you posted..I care about all the pointless *** grouping hugging that's gong on in this thread.

If you don't care for the discussion, then don't post.

[Medhia Nox]

BTW, you're not afraid the of dark - you're afraid of the animals that hide in the dark.



They're not the same thing. You can sit in your bed and stare into the darkness and not be "afriad". You can walk into an open field on a new moon night and be terrified.

[crake333]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.

Nice, man.  Your suggestion isn't clearly designed to insight more angered responses from people.  Not everyone who would respect or support the inclusion of homosexual romance in the game is gay, so encouraging us to gather all our gay friends and make a game is quite insulting, and derogatory.  Just like not everyone who supports gay marriage is gay.  Just like all abolitionists weren't black people.  Just like not everyone who would support some environmental reform is an eco-terrorist.  Just like...

Not the place to preach. I don't care about any of that..and it had nohing to do with ME2! NOTHING!

Ha, I like how you act as though you can totally disown your comments after you make them, like you're the bigger man saying it has nothing to do with anything.  Own up to what you said and respond!  Clearly you do care about any of that, or you wouldn't have said that in the first place.  Grow some balls.

Regardless of his prior statements, I think his fundamental point is that the game is finalized at this point anyway, and such threads only breed discussions such as this which are often inflammatory and do not belong on this board.

Right, but it seems pretty clear that now that I've presented a logical threat to his previous statements, his only defense mechanism is to say he no longer cares about it, and to act like he's being more mature.

Moreover, if all of you feel this discussion doesn't belong on this board, why are you on this board discussing it?

[ReDSH1FT]

TheAnima wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

Yes, but someone's "whining" may change future games.

It may convince some young gay kid to go and start making video games.

All these obnoxious threads may catch Bioware's notice - they may decide to add more in the future.

You may not like it - but you can't stop us from trying.

I can try.  I'll be sending emails to BioWare about why these topics need to be squashed right away.  They don't pertain to the game and they don't foster good forum health.  They OOZE animosity.  You can't argue with that, as much as I know you want to.

They do pertain to the game. The exclusion of homosexual options has made part of BioWare's fanbase unhappy, and BioWare would like to keep it's fanbase happy. So in the future they should include homosexual options.

LOL, the fallacy of that argument is so great that it doesn't even merit a response from me.

I think that this place has wore very thin.  Adios.

[Deran2]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
I believe otherwise, it has been proving that people are varying ages can be more mature than others.  I know rather young people (11-12) that are more mature than some of the people I know my own age.

However, there are obvious parallels.

Anti-homosexuality such as argued by darth's original post way back on page one basically had a "zero-tolerance" point of view on the issue, quite similarly many people adopt a similar police on pedophilia.

The subject of whether or not a child can provide consent is an interesting one and not one that I've formed my own personal opinion on yet.  Hypothetically however if a child was able to consent to such actions would you still believe it to be "wrong"?  Is the mere act of having sex with a child wrong or is it the lack of consent?

The major issue is that acting on those urges can and does cause psycological harm to children. While that isn't the case in 100% of all instances of molestation, it is in enough cases that its a cause for concern. And it doesn't matter if the child believes they are consenting, if they simply don't understand what it is that are agreeing to. And therein lies the problem, understanding. We know so little about the brain of an adult, much less the ever changing one of a child, that its near impossible to make that judgement call for an entire age range or even on an individual basis. While its true that some children (especially pre-teens) understand what sex is and may even be capable of understanding what they are consenting to, its simply safer to say that its wrong.

PS: It is very hard for me to stay away from any large bias on this topic, but I am going to try and make every attempt to do so.

[TheAnima]

Medhia Nox wrote...

BTW, you're not afraid the of dark - you're afraid of the animals that hide in the dark.

They're not the same thing. You can sit in your bed and stare into the darkness and not be "afriad". You can walk into an open field on a new moon night and be terrified.

You're comfortable with your room because it is an often visited space that you know many things about. Therefore your fear of sensory deprivation is reduced. This is also the reason it's easier to sleep in places you know. You are uncomfortable in a field that you don't know anything about because it isn't an enclosed area that you know well, and thus there could be danger.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Medhia Nox wrote...

BTW, you're not afraid the of dark - you're afraid of the animals that hide in the dark.

They're not the same thing. You can sit in your bed and stare into the darkness and not be "afriad". You can walk into an open field on a new moon night and be terrified.

And I can starve myself which goes fundamentally against me nature as a human, it doesn't change the fact that we instinctively fear the dark because the dark diminishes our sense of sight and thus causes us to be more cautious of what may be lurking in the dark.

We're making the same point, but I'm arguing that it's less a fear of a specific part of the environment but more of a fear of what the dark represents: vulnerability.

[DeathCultArm]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.

Nice, man.  Your suggestion isn't clearly designed to insight more angered responses from people.  Not everyone who would respect or support the inclusion of homosexual romance in the game is gay, so encouraging us to gather all our gay friends and make a game is quite insulting, and derogatory.  Just like not everyone who supports gay marriage is gay.  Just like all abolitionists weren't black people.  Just like not everyone who would support some environmental reform is an eco-terrorist.  Just like...

Not the place to preach. I don't care about any of that..and it had nohing to do with ME2! NOTHING!

Ha, I like how you act as though you can totally disown your comments after you make them, like you're the bigger man saying it has nothing to do with anything.  Own up to what you said and respond!  Clearly you do care about any of that, or you wouldn't have said that in the first place.  Grow some balls.

Regardless of his prior statements, I think his fundamental point is that the game is finalized at this point anyway, and such threads only breed discussions such as this which are often inflammatory and do not belong on this board.

I couldn've said it better myself. I'll leave on that note.

Modifié par DeathCultArm, 19 janvier 2010 - 05:14 .

[asaiasai]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

IF shepard is female then yes. There are NO same gender romances in ME2. This is the single best improvement made on the game from ME1 to ME2. Here's hoping that we never see another same gender romance in any videogame ever again. Maybe then we can finally all focus on fully outlawing same-gender relationships in all forms of entertainment and in the real world.

What a moron, come out of the closet already sweetie smoochie smoochie. If what your neighboors are doing in the privacy of thier own home bothers you then my suggestions are;
1) quit peeking in the window
2) have some balls and go knock on the door and ask if they will let you participate

in either case your insecurities are showing.

Asai

Modifié par asaiasai, 19 janvier 2010 - 05:16 .

[TheAnima]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

TheAnima wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

Yes, but someone's "whining" may change future games.

It may convince some young gay kid to go and start making video games.

All these obnoxious threads may catch Bioware's notice - they may decide to add more in the future.

You may not like it - but you can't stop us from trying.

I can try.  I'll be sending emails to BioWare about why these topics need to be squashed right away.  They don't pertain to the game and they don't foster good forum health.  They OOZE animosity.  You can't argue with that, as much as I know you want to.

They do pertain to the game. The exclusion of homosexual options has made part of BioWare's fanbase unhappy, and BioWare would like to keep it's fanbase happy. So in the future they should include homosexual options.

LOL, the fallacy of that argument is so great that it doesn't even merit a response from me.

I think that this place has wore very thin.  Adios.

In other words, you cannot find any way to counter the statement.

Goodbye, you were amusing when we weren't trolling with your passive aggressive antics.

[TheAnima]

DeathCultArm wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

crake333 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.

Nice, man.  Your suggestion isn't clearly designed to insight more angered responses from people.  Not everyone who would respect or support the inclusion of homosexual romance in the game is gay, so encouraging us to gather all our gay friends and make a game is quite insulting, and derogatory.  Just like not everyone who supports gay marriage is gay.  Just like all abolitionists weren't black people.  Just like not everyone who would support some environmental reform is an eco-terrorist.  Just like...

Not the place to preach. I don't care about any of that..and it had nohing to do with ME2! NOTHING!

Ha, I like how you act as though you can totally disown your comments after you make them, like you're the bigger man saying it has nothing to do with anything.  Own up to what you said and respond!  Clearly you do care about any of that, or you wouldn't have said that in the first place.  Grow some balls.

Regardless of his prior statements, I think his fundamental point is that the game is finalized at this point anyway, and such threads only breed discussions such as this which are often inflammatory and do not belong on this board.

I couldn've said it better myself. I'll leave on that note.

Actually, I think the notable descend created by these threads show just how important these options are, and increase the chance of them being available in future games/DLC.