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[DaySeeker]

Myzzrimm wrote...

Anyone that outright hates the idea of a m/m romance in this game is a bigot. If just having the OPTION there ruins the gaming experience for you, then you need to re-think your values.

I think Zevran was handled a bit... oddly. As he did come onto you. But think of it as if you came onto a character? (This includes f/f romances as well). That you convinced them, grew a bond, etc. That sort of thing. Instead of hearing all about their backstory, have some backstory and the rest talking about some insecurities, and then having the romance go from there. Hard to put into words.

Honestly, I was bored and read the whole thread, and am thusly astounded. I mean, I'm a straight player with a wonderful girlfriend, but if having a m/m romance in there makes people happy, then I'm all for it.

Please, don't call the Kinsey study flawed and then cite percentages based on a study you are aware of but can not or do not name.  What are you basing this on?  Most people are of average intelligence or below, so all our characters must be average, the majority of the population of the world is not white, why are the majority of characters in Mass Effect?  A large majority of the US is overweight and the number of women built like those in video games are few, so percentages seem to have little to do with the creation of the fictional world.  Unless this is a utopia without gays.

If there are seriously no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 I would really like to know why.  Every one of the squadmates and Shepherd must be straight?  There are six romances and none gay.  It doesn't seem that hard to change a word in a few lines to make that work.   It just seems insulting and exclusionary.

The game comes out in a week; I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[merikano]

apparently bioware felt that the market wasn't big enough and personally?



i'm okay with homoerotisy - you can't choose who you love - but i just don't want to see it. two girls making out = looks hot. two dudes making out = not so hot. maybe in time this will change but until then...?

[SurfaceBeneath]

Pannamaslo wrote...

Gnomejello wrote...

 And anyway, the Kinsey study placed the gay population at about 10%.  That's "small", but also a significant population of gamers.  

I just want to say, that Kinsey 's methodology sucked and his data are invalid. Nowadays homosexula population is estimated on no more than 5 %  ( 4% male and 1% female). If oyu add bisexuals, then maybe 10%, but don't quote Kinsey - he did it wrong

Plus you don't know if gay % in gamers population is the same as in general population. 

All in all I wouldn't mind same-sex options, but it doesn't look good. But, who knows. Maybe this time

There are not 4 times as many gay males as there are gay females. Homosexuality has not been proven to be any more or less likely among males or females. Also, the figures for homosexuality are not conclusive but statistics range from 2% of the total population all the way up to 18%. Both those figures are utterly ridiculous, so you have to figure it's somewhere in between, but no one study has been able to say conclusively where that should be. Lets take a median number of 10% gay and bisexual players (and disregarding that several hets would play those romances too) however and you're still looking at a sizable number of players who would be interested in a homosexual romance. I mean, do you really think that even 10% of the players who play Mass Effect 2 are going to romance any of the straight female options? It won't be a significantly larger number for certain.

In any case, we know for relative certainty that the lines were recorded. Whether they get included or not is anyone's guess and no developer commentary has said definitively one way or the other (Casey said no to F/F in the same breath that he said Liara/Femshep wasn't F/F, which outright implies that Samara is probably romancible by the ladies).

Modifié par SurfaceBeneath, 20 janvier 2010 - 08:38 .

[Myzzrimm]

DaySeeker wrote...

Myzzrimm wrote...

Anyone that outright hates the idea of a m/m romance in this game is a bigot. If just having the OPTION there ruins the gaming experience for you, then you need to re-think your values.

I think Zevran was handled a bit... oddly. As he did come onto you. But think of it as if you came onto a character? (This includes f/f romances as well). That you convinced them, grew a bond, etc. That sort of thing. Instead of hearing all about their backstory, have some backstory and the rest talking about some insecurities, and then having the romance go from there. Hard to put into words.

Honestly, I was bored and read the whole thread, and am thusly astounded. I mean, I'm a straight player with a wonderful girlfriend, but if having a m/m romance in there makes people happy, then I'm all for it.

Please, don't call the Kinsey study flawed and then cite percentages based on a study you are aware of but can not or do not name.  What are you basing this on?  Most people are of average intelligence or below, so all our characters must be average, the majority of the population of the world is not white, why are the majority of characters in Mass Effect?  A large majority of the US is overweight and the number of women built like those in video games are few, so percentages seem to have little to do with the creation of the fictional world.  Unless this is a utopia without gays.

If there are seriously no gay relationships in Mass Effect 2 I would really like to know why.  Every one of the squadmates and Shepherd must be straight?  There are six romances and none gay.  It doesn't seem that hard to change a word in a few lines to make that work.   It just seems insulting and exclusionary.

The game comes out in a week; I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

I can only assume you meant to quote the poster above me