Excellent question. Why on earth are you posting here? You should be out playing video games or curing diseases! Time spent on forums is time wasted.DeathCultArm wrote...
Well..., said *** individuals need to understand ranting on a game forum, isn't going to equate to rights, or respect or whatever. What does complainingn here accomplish..?!
Detsu wrote...
Actually I have nothing wrong with pedophilia, in and of itself. I have a big problem with child molestation, though.ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
Homosexual relationships are essentially a sexual fetish. Just because it's a socially accepted sexual fetish (mostly) does not mean that he is inherently wrong for not wanting that fetish practiced. Do you think paedophiles should be allowed to engage in their own sexual preferences? Probably not. Is it so hard to believe that someone could view homosexuality in the same light? That's how it was viewed for many years before widespread social change since the 60s.
And of course there's a simple and rational reason you can't compare child molestors to homosexuals. Child molestors are molesting children, meaning that their victim can't give informed consent.
Informed consent is one of the ideas that all definitions for crime are based on. Rape is unconsentual sex. Etc. But two homosexuals of consenting age, who consent to sex, are not doing anything wrong. This is basic and logical.
To demand that individuals be denied their right to do whatever they want between consenting adults is hate speech. Period.
Crawling_Chaos wrote...
ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
Homosexual relationships are essentially a sexual fetish. Just because it's a socially accepted sexual fetish (mostly) does not mean that he is inherently wrong for not wanting that fetish practiced. Do you think paedophiles should be allowed to engage in their own sexual preferences? Probably not. Is it so hard to believe that someone could view homosexuality in the same light? That's how it was viewed for many years before widespread social change since the 60s.
Really? Two consenting adults equates to an adult manipulating and taking advantage of a child?
Homosexuality is just a fetish?
[fetish: an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is
psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an
object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete
sexual expression]
Because homosexual relationships only consist of sexual gratification? Really? So I guess all relationships can just be considered a fetish? I guess they all just boil down to sexual gratification from a specific object.
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Crawling_Chaos wrote...
I really can't believe the stuff I'm reading from people on the Bioware forums.
Modifié par FollowTheGourd, 19 janvier 2010 - 03:25 .
You've missed the point so spectacularly that you've only made CC seem even more correct.shinobi602 wrote...
I know, people *gasp* actually have different opinions!! Am I hallucinating!?
ITSSEXYTIME wrote...Homosexual relationships are essentially a sexual fetish. Just because it's a socially accepted sexual fetish (mostly) does not mean that he is inherently wrong for not wanting that fetish practiced. Do you think paedophiles should be allowed to engage in their own sexual preferences? Probably not. Is it so hard to believe that someone could view homosexuality in the same light? That's how it was viewed for many years before widespread social change since the 60s.
.Rhys wrote...
There was no Lesbian option in the first game, Asari's have no gender.
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shinobi602 wrote...
Crawling_Chaos wrote...
I really can't believe the stuff I'm reading from people on the Bioware forums.
I know, people *gasp* actually have different opinions!! Am I hallucinating!?
Modifié par Collider, 19 janvier 2010 - 03:30 .
DQE001 wrote...
ITSSEXYTIME wrote...Homosexual relationships are essentially a sexual fetish. Just because it's a socially accepted sexual fetish (mostly) does not mean that he is inherently wrong for not wanting that fetish practiced. Do you think paedophiles should be allowed to engage in their own sexual preferences? Probably not. Is it so hard to believe that someone could view homosexuality in the same light? That's how it was viewed for many years before widespread social change since the 60s.
It's not a sexual fetish, well, no more so than heterosexuality is a sexual fetish. You are getting your Psychology 101 concepts mixed up.
As an aside, women were also viewed as hysterical, irrational and less-than-competent for anything but raising children. Social change in the 1960s and 1970s, fueled by increasing amounts of research which undercut such perceptions, changed things for the better. Same thing happened with homosexuality.
And sure, anyone can make a statement that they think gay people should go back into the closet and have their rights taken from them, or that women should stay at home and just make babies (and definitely should never play video games.) Pointing out that both such statements are ridiculous and idiotic is a pretty reasonable and measured response.
You sure do love your unrelated non sequitors don't you DCA. Plan on contributing to anything?DeathCultArm wrote...
Why is there a LI for nercrophiliac's?
Why isn't there a LI for Asians, and Hispanics?
Why isn't there a polygamist romance?
Why is there a domanatrix romance
Why isn't there a bisexual romance?
Permutation wrote...
I don't think sodomy is in their marketing strategy.
Sure is Psych 101 in here. That isn't how fetishes work. The term was defined earlier, go reflect on that for a bit.ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
Heterosexuality is as much a fetish as anything, it's simply a more common one that serves a biological purpose (and thus is the most common)
"For the better" is subjective. Societies perspective on these things changes as you pointed out but to dismiss either viewpoint as right or wrong is a gross oversimplification. Social change happens because of outspoken individuals striking out against the commonly accepted social beliefs and whether or not you agree/disagree with said opinions I don't think anyone has the right to silence them.
That said, this discussion is far too political for ME2 forums. OP's question has been answered and that's pretty much the end of this discussion.
ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
I agree with you that a line must be drawn between the act of pedophilia and the lack of informed consent. Regardless though what he expresses isn't hate speech. It's radical opinion for sure, but I've seen diametrically opposed opinions on various other subjects. I use pedophilia as an example because it is something that many people have strong opinions against and it helps people gain some insight into darth's perspective. Unlike your average anti-pedophile however, he isn't expressing his opinions in vulgar,demeaning or hateful manner.
Although this entire discussion really doesn't belong here...
Well, if you're tired of the forums... maybe you should take a break from them? Everyone has better things to do than post on a forum. Go read a classic book or something.DeathCultArm wrote...
I'm trying to contribute. It was just as on-topic as was an of the *** rants were. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, i'm just tired of the same two topics.
Crawling_Chaos wrote...
I'm all for opinions, but equating homosexuality to pedophilia, having the theocratically backed belief that homosexuality is something that needs to be purged, calling homosexuality a fetish.
These are opinions I can't stand for.
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