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[Detsu]

shinobi602 wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

I'm all for opinions, but equating homosexuality to pedophilia, having the theocratically backed belief that homosexuality is something that needs to be purged, calling homosexuality a fetish.

These are opinions I can't stand for.

Then you're intolerant just like the opposite side of the fence. Don't be a hypocrite. Alot of people are hypocrites when it comes to this issue. They cry for tolerance and want us to be all jolly about it, while if someone disagrees with it and thinks it's wrong in THEIR opinion (that California pageant thing, prime example), they throw a pissy fit and find it unacceptable and they just won't tolerate it.

Funny indeed.

You're an idiot.

[HiroVoid]

Medhia Nox wrote...

I promote these threads.

I am not interested in game developement, but I hope that one of these threads - on a myriad of game boards much like this one - encourages some young homosexual to go out and become a developer. Not only a developer - but a Lead Designer on RPGs.

That's when equality happens - when you take it from "The Other".

When young gamers - who happen to be gay - go out and start making games, start leading the design on games, and decide: "Hey, there needs to be an option for people like me." That's when these threads will die.

My posting on threads like this is in support of the possibility of it happening. And I won't stop until you bigots come and find me and beat down my door and drag me out of my house and burn me on my lawn - just like the hate filled, fundamentalist, Theocrats that you are.

Long live God - Death to Religion.

So you're trying to fight hatred with more hatred and death.  nice.

[ReDSH1FT]

Detsu wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

I know, people *gasp* actually have different opinions!! Am I hallucinating!?

You've missed the point so spectacularly that you've only made CC seem even more correct.

All forums are full of the mentally unsound but this is real standout example.

After reading this thread dude, honestly, the only person that appears to be mentally unsound here is you.  While the proponents of gay and anti gay arguments are presenting logical ideas on BOTH sides, you just sit there quoting and flaming people for being "ignorant."

South Park Michael Jackson anyone?

[WriteByTheSea]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote... Societies perspective on these things changes as you pointed out but to dismiss either viewpoint as right or wrong is a gross oversimplification....

No, it isn't. Idiots are idiots, which that commentor was, and trying to invoke a Golden Mean to justify the remark is fallacious.

But I do agree that we're straying into political territory, which the BioWare Forums weren't set up for. 

[shinobi602]

Detsu wrote...

You're an idiot.

K, I really don't give a crap what you think

Modifié par shinobi602, 19 janvier 2010 - 03:37 .

[Collider]

Medhia Nox wrote...
Long live God - Death to Religion.

Let me guess. We start a religion debate. Eventually this thread is closed for discussion of real-world religion and gender politics.

[Medhia Nox]

Did I say I was going to kill anyone HiroVoid? Was I promoting killing anyone?



- It's called Civil Disobedience.

[TheAnima]

 No, because Bioware is trying to avoid producing a controversial video game (for us in homophobiac countries like the United States), when ME2 already has a 'dark' storyline.

Although, I think this is an unwise decision as negative media attention can have a positive effect of game sales.

Modifié par TheAnima, 19 janvier 2010 - 03:39 .

[ReDSH1FT]

Detsu wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

I'm all for opinions, but equating homosexuality to pedophilia, having the theocratically backed belief that homosexuality is something that needs to be purged, calling homosexuality a fetish.

These are opinions I can't stand for.

Then you're intolerant just like the opposite side of the fence. Don't be a hypocrite. Alot of people are hypocrites when it comes to this issue. They cry for tolerance and want us to be all jolly about it, while if someone disagrees with it and thinks it's wrong in THEIR opinion (that California pageant thing, prime example), they throw a pissy fit and find it unacceptable and they just won't tolerate it.

Funny indeed.

You're an idiot.

Report this, he obviously likes to report you guys for less.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Detsu wrote...
Also, HURP DURP SUBJECTIVISM IS A CONVENIENT WAY TO DODGE QUESTIONS.

Neutrality is the art of understanding subjectivity.  

To an extent heterosexuality/homosexuality extend beyond a common fetish in that they focus around an attraction to a specific gender rather than a fixation on various acts/objects/whatever but irregardless the general concept remains the same.  Homosexuality in the raw nature of "being attracted to X" is no different than pedophilia, and where it differs is that pedophilia commonly involves the act of manipulation. Although arguably most relationships homosexual/heterosexual or otherwise can involve similar manipulation and considering pedophilia extends anywhere from toddlers (3-4) to 13 (sometimes higher, usually up to 16 or in some cases 17)  it's pretty hard to definitively say at what age a person is capable of making informed decisions. (hence differing "Age of consent" in varying countries)

Fetish has negative connotations and I don't mean it the way you're interpreting it.  

[DeathCultArm]

You want a *** romance, go get all your *** friends and all of their to go buy ME..then complain. Heteosexuals make up the majority of the market.....So either become straight, or grin and bear it.

[Detsu]

shinobi602 wrote...

K, I really don't give a crap what you think

Transparent defense mechanism? Clearly the sign of a genius. Seriously, it's like I'm really talking to 13 year olds.

DeathCultArm wrote...

I'm not leaving b/c of worthless,
redundant topics. I'll just be as redundant, until they stop. And if
they don't then...

AN ELLIPSES? WITH IMPLIED THREAT? I AM SHAKING IN MY BOOTS BRO. DON'T LEAVE ME HANGING, I MUST KNOW WHAT KIND OF TERRORS YOU PLAN FROM YOUR POSITION AS A TOTALLY IMPOTENT FORUM MEMBER.

[HiroVoid]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Did I say I was going to kill anyone HiroVoid? Was I promoting killing anyone?

- It's called Civil Disobedience.

Nope.  I meant it theoretically since you said death to religion as well however I don't care about these topics too much so I probaby won't post here much really.

[shinobi602]

Detsu wrote...

Transparent defense mechanism? Clearly the sign of a genius. Seriously, it's like I'm really talking to 13 year olds.

Calling people names must be a clear sign of intelligence nowadays. News to me.

[DeathCultArm]

I just meant then i'll keep posting as well....calm down.

[TheAnima]

.Rhys wrote...

Poloman967 wrote...

.Rhys wrote...

There was no Lesbian option in the first game, Asari's have no gender.

Yeah... they just happen to have boobs and no "man parts"  xD

"Liara says her species is "mono-gendered - male and female have no real
meaning for us," and, if asked, says that she is "not precisely a
woman"

A Lesbian is defined as: A woman whose sexual orientation is to women.

Therefore since the Asari have no gender there can not be a true lesbian relationship.

Liara also says that in the context of human society her species would fill the woman role.

So yeah, it's a lesbian relationship.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Since we've strayed off-topic, let's reign it in a bit.



Assuming Bioware chose not to have a homosexual relationship for controversy reasons: Which party member "would have" been the love interest for said relationships (male or female)?

[ReDSH1FT]

Detsu wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

K, I really don't give a crap what you think

Transparent defense mechanism? Clearly the sign of a genius. Seriously, it's like I'm really talking to 13 year olds.

DeathCultArm wrote...

I'm not leaving b/c of worthless,
redundant topics. I'll just be as redundant, until they stop. And if
they don't then...

AN ELLIPSES? WITH IMPLIED THREAT? I AM SHAKING IN MY BOOTS BRO. DON'T LEAVE ME HANGING, I MUST KNOW WHAT KIND OF TERRORS YOU PLAN FROM YOUR POSITION AS A TOTALLY IMPOTENT FORUM MEMBER.

God, I'll bet that you're a newf- from Random.  No breaking of rules 1 n 2 here, but honestly, CAPSLOCK DOESN'T EQUATE TO A MORE VALID POINT.

[ReDSH1FT]

DeathCultArm wrote...

You want a *** romance, go get all your *** friends and all of their to go buy ME..then complain. Heteosexuals make up the majority of the market.....So either become straight, or grin and bear it.

QFT

[Detsu]

DeathCultArm wrote...

You want a *** romance, go get all your *** friends and all of their to go buy ME..then complain. Heteosexuals make up the majority of the market.....So either become straight, or grin and bear it.

Another idiot bleating. Do you enjoy logical fallacies this much?

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
Neutrality is the art of understanding subjectivity.  

To
an extent heterosexuality/homosexuality extend beyond a common fetish
in that they focus around an attraction to a specific gender rather
than a fixation on various acts/objects/whatever but irregardless the
general concept remains the same.  Homosexuality in the raw nature of
"being attracted to X" is no different than pedophilia, and where it
differs is that pedophilia commonly involves the act of manipulation.
Although arguably most relationships homosexual/heterosexual or
otherwise can involve similar manipulation and considering pedophilia
extends anywhere from toddlers (3-4) to 13 (sometimes higher, usually
up to 16 or in some cases 17)  it's pretty hard to definitively say at
what age a person is capable of making informed decisions. (hence
differing "Age of consent" in varying countries)

Fetish has negative connotations and I don't mean it the way you're interpreting it. 

If a word has negative connotations then don't use it. Theasauruses are just a google away.

You're ignoring the issue of informed consent and continuing to equate pedophilia with child molestation. This, combined with your onbonxious pseudointellectualism, is all the argument against you that I need.

[FollowTheGourd]

I don't know why we're all flaming about this when there's the more pressing issue of whether they'll have turian or krogan romances available... in the name of intergalactic peace... or something.

Modifié par FollowTheGourd, 19 janvier 2010 - 03:43 .

[DeathCultArm]

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.

[shinobi602]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Right, because obviously I'm telling them to STFU and GTFO unless they agree with me.  Just because I'm voicing my disagreement with their opinions doesn't mean that they have to agree with mine.

I wasn't saying you directly, but I've seen it many a times before in real life.