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#126
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TheAnima wrote...

Liara also says that in the context of human society her species would fill the woman role.

So yeah, it's a lesbian relationship.


Wouldn't that be like me saying a really, really butch lesbian in a relationship with a not so butch lesbian is actually a heterosexual relationship because I, personally, find the butch lesbian to be manly? I'd be disregarding facts for the sake of stereotyping.

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DeathCultArm wrote...

You want a *** romance, go get all your *** friends and all of their to go buy ME..then complain. Heteosexuals make up the majority of the market.....So either become straight, or grin and bear it.


And technically women make up the majority of the population.

Best start making sammiches then,  lest your ignorant logic prove *gasp* faulty.

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ITT: DETSU vs REASON

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Since the OP's question has been thoroughly addressed...

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As for the real world same-gender relations are against my religious beliefs so it has nothing to do with any kind of hate.


Isn't it convenient how gods always have the same prejudices as their followers?  You never hear anyone say "God hates gays, but I think they're okay.  Dunno what God's problem is."  Or "God's perfectly okay with Mexicans, but I can't stand them."  It's always "God hates gays and Mexicans and so do I!"

Almost enough to make one think gods were invented by people as a reflection of their own prejudices.

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haha i love these threads..so entertaining :)

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shinobi602 wrote...
Calling people names must be a clear sign of intelligence nowadays. News to me.

Hurp durp.

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God, I'll bet that you're a newf- from Random.  No breaking of rules 1 n 2 here, but honestly, CAPSLOCK DOESN'T EQUATE TO A MORE VALID POINT.

Ahahahaha. You're the one who brought it up. And you actually called /b/ "Random"? I see you're the cancer. Nice to meet you.

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People who say they want homosexuality out of entertainment for religious reasons are almost always hypocrites. Especially in these cases. They don't want Shepard's cold-blooded murder and/or genocide out of the picture, but they draw the line at homosexuality.



These people need to face the fact that they aren't looking for entertainment that perfectly fits their religious beliefs. They need to realize that their religious objections have sorely misplaced priority. Using religion as a shield against claims of intolerance, much like those that used the Bible to excuse slavery and Jim Crow laws.

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Listen to Taranatar9. Wisdom.

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DeathCultArm wrote...

*** relationships are widely frowned upon. ME2 is a more commerical game. Adding a *** romance is bad for business. You want change? Become a game developer, and get your *** friends to do so, as well.


I suppose you haven't played Dragon Age.

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ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

You want a *** romance, go get all your *** friends and all of their to go buy ME..then complain. Heteosexuals make up the majority of the market.....So either become straight, or grin and bear it.


And technically women make up the majority of the population.

Best start making sammiches then,  lest your ignorant logic prove *gasp* faulty.


But not *** women. And there being more women on the planet, has nothing to do with more men buying Mass Effect. My point still stands.

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Traumacrazy

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... the bible say it hates gays..



where? :/

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Detsu wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

You want a *** romance, go get all your *** friends and all of their to go buy ME..then complain. Heteosexuals make up the majority of the market.....So either become straight, or grin and bear it.

Another idiot bleating. Do you enjoy logical fallacies this much?

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
Neutrality is the art of understanding subjectivity.  

To
an extent heterosexuality/homosexuality extend beyond a common fetish
in that they focus around an attraction to a specific gender rather
than a fixation on various acts/objects/whatever but irregardless the
general concept remains the same.  Homosexuality in the raw nature of
"being attracted to X" is no different than pedophilia, and where it
differs is that pedophilia commonly involves the act of manipulation.
Although arguably most relationships homosexual/heterosexual or
otherwise can involve similar manipulation and considering pedophilia
extends anywhere from toddlers (3-4) to 13 (sometimes higher, usually
up to 16 or in some cases 17)  it's pretty hard to definitively say at
what age a person is capable of making informed decisions. (hence
differing "Age of consent" in varying countries)

Fetish has negative connotations and I don't mean it the way you're interpreting it. 

If a word has negative connotations then don't use it. Theasauruses are just a google away.

You're ignoring the issue of informed consent and continuing to equate pedophilia with child molestation. This, combined with your onbonxious pseudointellectualism, is all the argument against you that I need.


I'm not trying to equate pedophilia with child molestation, in fact I'm trying to express the idea that the sexual attraction to children is no more inherently wrong than homosexuality.  The manipulation element stems from past experiences as well as the idea that children cannot make informed decisions. (The question is, what is the cut off age?  We're still wrestling with that as society)

If you cannot see the obvious parallels between anti-pedophelia in modern society and darth's original anti-homosexual comment then you have no place in this discussion. 

(And yes I'm being all psuedointellectualisticism, it makes it easier to avoid becoming opinionated either way)

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TheAnima wrote...

 No, because Bioware is trying to avoid producing a controversial video game....


Honestly, I think the lack of m/m romance and the obviously female/female (but technically female/asari) relationship happened for exactly the reasons the developers stated in ME1: the guys behind writing the game weren't comfortable writing m/m interactions.

The reason why there are m/m romances in Dragon Age is, again, because of the reasons posted before: there were women on the writing team and they were perfectly comfortable writing such things. 

See http://meforums.biow...forum=104&sp=45 for the explanation. 

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Detsu wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...
Calling people names must be a clear sign of intelligence nowadays. News to me.

Hurp durp.

ReDSH1FT wrote...
God, I'll bet that you're a newf- from Random.  No breaking of rules 1 n 2 here, but honestly, CAPSLOCK DOESN'T EQUATE TO A MORE VALID POINT.

Ahahahaha. You're the one who brought it up. And you actually called /b/ "Random"? I see you're the cancer. Nice to meet you.


Sigh.  Rules 1 n 2 kid.  You just broke em.  I just knew I had you pegged correctly.  Way to point out where the real cancer is.  Also LURK MOAR.

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Mister Mage wrote...

People who say they want homosexuality out of entertainment for religious reasons are almost always hypocrites. Especially in these cases. They don't want Shepard's cold-blooded murder and/or genocide out of the picture, but they draw the line at homosexuality.

These people need to face the fact that they aren't looking for entertainment that perfectly fits their religious beliefs. They need to realize that their religious objections have sorely misplaced priority. Using religion as a shield against claims of intolerance, much like those that used the Bible to excuse slavery and Jim Crow laws.


Well it's only murder and cold-blooded if you're a Renegade.  Otherwise you're just stomping pirates/geth/robots/bugs from existence for the safety of Galactic Civilization.

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And no, I didn't play DA:O, I also know it didn't have a syfy special, or commerical on MTV. Not near as popular.

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ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

You want a *** romance, go get all your *** friends and all of their to go buy ME..then complain. Heteosexuals make up the majority of the market.....So either become straight, or grin and bear it.


And technically women make up the majority of the population.

Best start making sammiches then,  lest your ignorant logic prove *gasp* faulty.

So me and Sexy disagree on this whole pedo/****** thing, but I tihnk we can agree that DCA can't argue a point for beans.

That's some common ground at least.

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Traumacrazy wrote...

haha i love these threads..so entertaining :)


Yeah gotta love forums, it builds from simple questions to large debates about tolerance... Internet is so powerful
Oh and where are the RWJ references? It´s about time... oh well I´ll do it... *cough* Debates are fake and gay *applause*

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Detsu wrote...
Hurp durp.


Your wisdom and intellectualness grows with every passing post.

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Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Well it's only murder and cold-blooded if you're a Renegade.  Otherwise you're just stomping pirates/geth/robots/bugs from existence for the safety of Galactic Civilization.

Except the people here want the option of homosexuality out.  Which means the option of murder and genocide in cold blood should be(at the very least) just as bad.

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This thread has really degenerated to such a point that its practically a "your stupid, no your stupid" argument.



My view is rather biased on this issue as I am a Gay male, but that being said I have no problem with those who disapprove of that. They are entitled to their opinion too.





So why dont both sides agree to disagree?

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Taranatar9 wrote...

Since the OP's question has been thoroughly addressed...

Darth_Trethon wrote...
As for the real world same-gender relations are against my religious beliefs so it has nothing to do with any kind of hate.


Isn't it convenient how gods always have the same prejudices as their followers?  You never hear anyone say "God hates gays, but I think they're okay.  Dunno what God's problem is."  Or "God's perfectly okay with Mexicans, but I can't stand them."  It's always "God hates gays and Mexicans and so do I!"

Almost enough to make one think gods were invented by people as a reflection of their own prejudices.


Ahh great.

The OP ranted about gays.

Now this guy decides he'l take the high road and rant about peoples religion.

You all are intolerant losers.

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ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

I'm not trying to equate pedophilia with child molestation, in fact I'm trying to express the idea that the sexual attraction to children is no more inherently wrong than homosexuality.


...oh Jesus, what are you doing?

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DeathCultArm wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

You want a *** romance, go get all your *** friends and all of their to go buy ME..then complain. Heteosexuals make up the majority of the market.....So either become straight, or grin and bear it.


And technically women make up the majority of the population.

Best start making sammiches then,  lest your ignorant logic prove *gasp* faulty.


But not *** women. And there being more women on the planet, has nothing to do with more men buying Mass Effect. My point still stands.



Like I said the point stands. That didn't negate what I said.

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T1l wrote...

TheAnima wrote...

Liara also says that in the context of human society her species would fill the woman role.

So yeah, it's a lesbian relationship.


Wouldn't that be like me saying a really, really butch lesbian in a relationship with a not so butch lesbian is actually a heterosexual relationship because I, personally, find the butch lesbian to be manly? I'd be disregarding facts for the sake of stereotyping.

No it wouldn't. Sadly you don't understand gender at all. Masculine does not mean male gender. There are plenty of feminine men who identify as men, and masculine women who identify as women. As far as Liara has stated, an Asari in a human society would identify as a woman.