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[Taleroth]

Yes.

It's also a major plot point of Asunder. I can't imagine them not doing something with it.

[Tinu]

I've played that quest a couple of hours ago and I was wondering that as well.
They might be very confused, because I don't think the veil will tear everywhere.

[iOnlySignIn]

They all awake and most are now seeking revenge on the Templars.

[Hippiethecat124]

Oooooh, I hadn't put two and two together until now! Thanks for that, discosuperfly! =D
I don't know how far the tear's influence would spread (like TinuHawke said, the Veil tear isn't EVERYWHERE), but certainly the immediate area around it. A Tranquil mage Inquisitor who got reconnected during the investigation, though that's highly unlikely. Maybe Owain comes back and takes a level in badass. xD

[Hippiethecat124]

Oooooh, I hadn't put two and two together until now! Thanks for that, discosuperfly! =D
I don't know how far the tear's influence would spread (like TinuHawke said, the Veil tear isn't EVERYWHERE), but certainly the immediate area around it. A Tranquil mage Inquisitor who got reconnected during the investigation could be interesting, though that's highly unlikely. Maybe Owain comes back and takes a level in badass. xD

[DarthLaxian]

i hope it does (and i hope that there are many "Jowans" (meaning: blood-mages) among them that now have a grudge against templars because those barbarians (well not all of them - but many of them are barbarians) should get a taste of their own medicine (meaning: getting hunted, being killed for just being templars etc.) - maybe they learn something from that...it might do them some good!)

note: i don't want to kill all templars, but the zealots and rapists etc. need to be killed like the animals they are!

but, there is one thing:

tearing the veil does not exactly heal the tranquil (at least that is not what "Asunder" says) -> being possessed does (also that is contradicted by "Justice/Vengeance" and Anders in DA2, after all the Tranquil that Anders wants to help is able to feel (and begs for DEATH - IMHO anyone who does not object to the rite of "tranquility" (what a nice euphemism that is...) is a criminal, too)...well, we will see

note: if the opportunity presents itself, i would "heal" all the Tranquil - hell, only those who chose it (and possibly not even those, as i would think any tranquil being "healed" would not want to go back to being tranquil) would want to be tranquil anyway - all others were forced into it (which IMHO is a crime against humanity (worse then imprisoning people for just being born, which borders on things like racism!)) and i would love to hear them voice their oppinions on the oh sooooo nice chantry and their equally nice prison wardens (templars)

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[Tyrium]

Oooh, I hadn't thought of that either ... I do hope they go with that, it would be VERY interesting.

[Lord Raijin]

This highly intrigues me. The concept of the tranquil getting back their freedom... even if it's temporary is both satisfying but devastating at the same time. Not all Tranquil are innocent. In fact I'm sure that many of them are criminals who are unstable to wield their power thus the Rite was the best solution, even the First Enchanter had to make that final decision.

[Cyberbobmkii]

I doubt it, the tranquil in the Kinloch Hold were not cured despite there being spirits all over the place.

[Lord Raijin]

Cyberbobmkii, What about the situation with Karl back in DA2 during the tranquility quest? He temporary came back when Justice took over Anders.

[Cyberbobmkii]

True, but mabye that's all it would be, temporary. Perhaps all the Tranquil at Kinloch were breifly cured and reverted back before the warden came.

[Chari]

Maybe. That would be really interesting. Also because demons need no more to possess people to go to our world. Maybe... the mages won't be much of threat anymore since demons don't need them?

[Huntress]

tranquils ability to connect to the fade have been severed, I dont see how demons can affect them, now demons can possess them but i think it will take someone like Uldred to forces this people to take part of a ritual.

Modifié par Huntress, 30 août 2013 - 02:19 .

[teenparty]

Does that mean that the tranquil might try to stop the PC from fixing the veil?

[Navasha]

teenparty wrote...

Does that mean that the tranquil might try to stop the PC from fixing the veil?

That would certainly add a moral dilemma to that action.   I can see a tranquil pleading with the PC to leave it open...

[teenparty]

Navasha wrote...

teenparty wrote...

Does that mean that the tranquil might try to stop the PC from fixing the veil?

That would certainly add a moral dilemma to that action.   I can see a tranquil pleading with the PC to leave it open...

Wait a minute. I've seen this before: 

[Potato Cat]

Definitely, but is it just the Fade? Or is it the beings of the Fade?

Modifié par Elfman, 30 août 2013 - 02:05 .

[Elhanan]

Only a wild guess here, but am wondering if the Inquisitor is host to one of those beings from the Fade; like Justice. This would explain why there is only a lone survivor from that event. And this would give the PC a possible choice as to what kind of spirit is there based on gameplay.

From the very little I have experienced, this could be sim to PlaneScape: Torment style; not a bad thing according to other players.

[NRieh]

*Asunder spoilers warning!*

A Tranquil mage Inquisitor who got reconnected during the investigation, though that's highly unlikely.

According to the examples of 'untranquilled' mages....I doubt it's a good idea to allow anyone in such a state of mind walk around freely, not to say about leading Inquisition ))

But - yes, Karl talked about 'piece of Fade', that temporary made him awake. As Justice hid back, this effect grew weaker. But I don't think the lore is solid here.

the tranquil in the Kinloch Hold were not cured despite there being spirits all over the place.

There was no tear in the Veil, those demons and abominations had better things to do, then to bother with Tranquils. Like torturing and seducing Templars, for example. 8E Also note, that abomination is a 'hosted' demon.

According to Asunder, Tranquility fails when spirit ( or demon) 'pays his attention' (so to speak) at the Tranquil, spirit's (or demon's) intention breaks the seal and restores severed
'bridge' to the Fade. Obviously, Ju-nders had reasons to somehow interact with Karl. But this very case is special - Justice already had a living host, he himself was trapped inside the mortal world. He could only 'bridge' Karl to himself (as he is indeed the part of Fade).

It's hard to figure, what direct gap into the Fade can possibly do to the Tranquils.

[Rolling Flame]

Chari wrote...

Maybe. That would be really interesting. Also because demons need no more to possess people to go to our world. Maybe... the mages won't be much of threat anymore since demons don't need them?

I imagine weaker demons will still try to possess mages, in the hope of boosting their own power.

[Potato Cat]

Rolling Flame wrote...

Chari wrote...

Maybe. That would be really interesting. Also because demons need no more to possess people to go to our world. Maybe... the mages won't be much of threat anymore since demons don't need them?

I imagine weaker demons will still try to possess mages, in the hope of boosting their own power.

Maybe. The lore is a bit unclear, probably intentionally so now that I think about it.

Morrigan says something about Flemeth teaching her magic so Flemeth would be just as powerful in her new body or something, not sure. It's also hard to tell if the lore on demonic possession can be transferred to the Flemeth body snatching thing and vice versa. Hopefully it will be clearer when we know what Flemeth actually is. And hopefully, that won't be at the end of the last ever game.

[coldSnap]

I think it'd be kinda interesting if one of your companion mages was a tranquil that had regained their mind due to the tear in the veil, but then at the end (assuming repairing the veil is possible) they beg you not to fix it, and you have to choose to keep the world in a **** storm or keep this person you've come to care for (assuming you like the character), non-tranquil.

It could even work as a isolated incident for a more minor quest, for a NPC who gives you "war-assets" for the mage faction.