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[Ryzaki]

Na, Chap 3 felt like an ass-pull with the force ghost sickness just to keep the End Boss alive

 

Chap 3 for the SI should've been more focused on the War along which being a potential option for the Dark Council, which I also feel should have gave us two antagonist (A Jedi Master and a Sith)

 

Hm...it didn't bother me so much I figured gathering that much power had a cost. we had already seen something similar with Zash.

 

True the whole Cn-12 hinted at something like that but it was just swept under the rug later.

[Pateu]

I play a Jedi Sentinel on The Progenitor, EU.

 

The only reason I log is in hopes of finding roleplay. The questing itself is really boring.

 

Sure, a voiced character with choices and other RPG elements is cool, but the game is a hybrid of an RPG ( trying to immerse you in a story, voice acting, choices ) and MMO ( grindy quests, grouping, ops ) while doing neither correctly.

[AresKeith]

Hm...it didn't bother me so much I figured gathering that much power had a cost. we had already seen something similar with Zash.

 

True the whole Cn-12 hinted at something like that but it was just swept under the rug later.

 

I mean I can understand how gaining that much power comes with a cost, but it came at the last second which made me go "What?" Like it was so random

 

Then you have that one unique throw away Sith Darth Kallous, would could've been the Sith Antagonist I was talking about along with the Jedi antagonist because I think he was Thanaton's legit apprentice 

[Ryzaki]

I mean I can understand how gaining that much power comes with a cost, but it came at the last second which made me go "What?" Like it was so random

 

Then you have that one unique throw away Sith Darth Kallous, would could've been the Sith Antagonist I was talking about along with the Jedi antagonist because I think he was Thanaton's legit apprentice 

 

It is pretty random if you're LS but on my latest DS sorc it made sense. The ghosts were just itching for a chance to get revenge and his fight with Thanaton gave them an opportunity they couldn't wait to exploit.

 

True.

[Milan92]

Best part of the SI story was when you owned your own Super Weapon and blew a republic warship to bits after giving a very epic speech

 

Especially hilarious when you play as a LS - which is what my SI was

[AresKeith]

It is pretty random if you're LS but on my latest DS sorc it made sense. The ghosts were just itching for a chance to get revenge and his fight with Thanaton gave them an opportunity they couldn't wait to exploit.

 

True.

 

My only real problem with it was the execution, might as well sweep it under the rug than pull it at the last second

 

And gah that annoyed the hell out of me with Kallous lol, and gameplay wise he was better than Thanaton (who was cheap as hell  )

 

Best part of the SI story was when you owned your own Super Weapon and blew a republic warship to bits after giving a very epic speech

 

Especially hilarious when you play as a LS - which is what my SI was

 

The SI needed a badass chair for that scene 

[Ryzaki]

My only real problem with it was the execution, might as well sweep it under the rug than pull it at the last second

 

And gah that annoyed the hell out of me with Kallous lol, and gameplay wise he was better than Thanaton (who was cheap as hell  )

 

 

The SI needed a badass chair for that scene 

 

True. They should've had some brief scenes where the Inq started hearing voices but brushed them off. Though the ghosts are hilarious. (Though I wonder if they're watching when the SI sleeps with their LI? maybe that's why the Hoth ghost doesn't leave if you don't redeem him. He's a voyeur).

 

"He's running away? That can't be a legal move!" Thanaton ending up being a little ****** was sad. I just wish my SI had gotten the final blow.

 

And yeah LS SI is hilarity

[Han Shot First]

What is so funny about the LS Sith Inquisitor? 

 

I went near full dark side with my mine so I haven't seen how the LS Sith plays out. I was kind of traditional with my characters and went light side with the Jedi and dark side with the Sith.

[Dean_the_Young]

Well, finally finished Imperial Agent. Agent Leklido, formerly Cipher 9 formerly Legate formerly Hand of Jadus. With a 5 Star character story arc from professional to despair to brainwashed to reformation, ending up as a Light Side Agent with the decision to hand over the Black Codex to the SIS and defecting is fitting. He's done great things, he's done terrible things, and he's done greatly terrible things... but at last he's come into his own as a person, and not just a persona.

 

And, with that... his story is probably over for good. Being a Hero of the Empire, like he was declared to be after Corellia, is a good way to keep himself from being suspected, but 'reform' isn't something he's quite in a position to do. I'll keep him around, out of sentimentality if nothing else, but I have a hard time seeing a happy ending for him.

 

(Still need to finish the companion arcs, though. Besides diplomacy and that one shop on the fleet, any good ways to grind that up?)

 

 

Eh. We'll see how I feel after playing some of the other arcs. Onward to (Dark Side) Trooper!

 

 

 

 

Though I do want to start planning out the rest of my future playthroughs, in terms of gender and alignment. (Though I suspect it's mostly going to be Dark Side Republic and Light Side Imperials.)

 

Republic Trooper is a male darkside. Male because I couldn't stand playing femShep, and Dark Side because... headcanon role play. I'm RPing him as cybord, a sort of amoral republic super-soldier program from questionable partnerships with the Hutts. He spouts the Republic trooper propoganda and tropes, but when it comes down to it he doesn't even identify as a person- he's a tool, little more than an automaton. Obeys orders, doesn't care if he dies, has no problem letting a Republic Senator die because rescuing him would compromise the mission. Him growing a personality and identity won't be all for the best: he'll develop an ego, a selfish ego, and his disregard for the rules and values will only be tolerated because he's so good at his job.

 

 

Smuggler- sorry, but something about the male smuggler voice just clicks with me. Well, that and I had a team up with someone who made their smuggler look like a more hispanic Lando Calrissian. Must try. I'm picturing him as leaning dark side as well: less 'dashing rogue' and more 'rising and charming crime lord' who understands the advantages of working within the laws of the Republic when you're caught. Think the Mafia's approach to WW2 against the Axis. A rising crime lord, if you can. You can still do that, right?

 

 

Jedi Counselor, I've already decided is going to be a woman. Why? Well, I'm due one, and from what I've seen the male counselor would aggrevate me by voice. Probably going to go dark side- if only to see how the game rationalizes me being on the light side 'make lots of allies' path. Try and justify it as forbidden knowledge and such. Not so much interested in the 'emotions shouldn't be repressed!' rationalization, but I don't know enough about the story arc to make a judgement.

 

Jedi Knight... undecided. I do like the idea of a 'wants to express emotions' character arc and romance, as part of a 'pragmatic but still moral' less than ideal but still good person. Male Knight romance works well for that, since it directly addresses the subject. From what I understand, I think I'd dislike Doc as well, especially as a love interest. That said, I'd be concerned: 5 stories in and only one female. Not that there's anything wrong with being gender unbalanced, but-

 

 

The Empire is a bit more interesting in a meta-way, since I do want at least one dark sider. Just... not sure how or where. The light side impulse is strong in this one (when playing for the dark side faction). There are reasons why I'd want to light side all of them to some extent. The real question is, like Agent, why wouldn't they defect or leave?

 

Bounty Hunter would make a good 'corruption' story to dark side. I can see a basically neutral bounty hunter who justifies themselves as spreading or bringing law to the galaxy. The sort to not like the crackdowns or atrocities, but eases the conscience by thinking that even the bad guys have bad enemies. The Republic's actions are why they don't leave. By the end... well, maybe revenge takes over? Not sure. Gender? Not sure either. If I was basing off the romance, than I found watching the female BH romance to be boring, but otherwise? Not sure.

 

The Sith... I have a reason to like the light side for both of them. I kind of don't want to do them both light side, but kind of don't want some of the dark side aspects.

 

For the Warrior, the light side of honorable blood lust FOR THE EMPIRE can work, after a fashion. But the Dark Side works better for that, especially in serving the Emperor. But the Dark Side means Dark Side Jaesa if you're being consistent, which I'd like to be. And I don't want her. As for the gender... well, the image of tiny female Juggernaut Tank would be amusing in its own right. Don't know anything about the romance, though. Marginal points for this being the one about being the light side secret reformer.

 

(Yes, I realize I'm judging many of these on the basis of their romance. Guilty, guilty...)

 

For the Inquisitor... I have to confess, I honestly like both Light Side and Dark Side from the parts I've seen. And I've seen many parts of both, and with both genders. Light Side has a good deal of being, well, kinda of crazy by not being insane. On the other hand, the Dark Side is a great story of a Sith power struggle and ambition of clawing from nobody to nightmare. Being the secret reformer with the padawan companion, or the domination/enslavement of the ghosts for more power in a tale of ambition. Inquisitor also has a great voice for both. I've heard male lightside and female darkside, and they both set the standard for me. Female DS has a perfect sinister cunning, while male LS is odd yet ultimately benevolent.

 

Inquisitor is one I can see myself playing twice. And, oddly enough, the romance factor really isn't a factor in my decision. About time.

 

 

 

Those are my thoughts, as of now.  Any contributions?

[Aimi]

(Yes, I realize I'm judging many of these on the basis of their romance. Guilty, guilty...)

Which is interesting, considering your self-confessed lack of interest in video-game romance plotlines in general.

I played most of the class stories multiple times, but my 'final' versions of all characters didn't touch any of the romances. This is chiefly because I don't think that most of them are very good (with the possible exception of Vector's, I guess?), and some of them are actively squicky (especially all of the ones between a player character and a subordinate). The forced heterosexuality was also more than a bit annoying. And then there's the whole "this isn't even slightly recognized in the endgame" aspect.

Ultimately, the romances that got me to respond the best were the ones that weren't actually in the game. For example, I headcanoned myself a female SW-LS Jaesa relationship, which turned into a colossal fanfic project, but the sheer amount of rewriting I had to do to make the story work was so disillusioning that I couldn't keep it up. (And, also, the whole Master-student thing.)

Fundamentally, I have problems with roleplaying a character that is too dissimilar from myself. If I couldn't imagine a version of myself conceivably doing something in the real world, I would feel very weird about doing it in a video game. This constricted my options somewhat. Doesn't seem to apply to you so much.

But, y'know, I still played the game for two years, got through all eight class questlines, and enjoyed each one. The romance lines were so incidental to many of them that I was pretty okay with that. You in particular should be more than able to have fun with a class quest without romance content being a major factor.

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Your bounty hunter 'corruption' angle can work pretty well. Revenge can drive both sides of the story. Also, don't worry about being consistently LS or DS. When I played my last BH, she ended up being like a female Caine in some ways: apart from being the personification of destruction and chaos, she had the more specific trait of being an assassin whose clients often seem to end up dead. This made the end of Chapter 3 a lot of fun: she got to kill Jun Seros and Darth Tormen. Good times.

[Dean_the_Young]

Which is interesting, considering your self-confessed lack of interest in video-game romance plotlines in general.

 

 

It's funny because it's true.

 

Thinking on it, I think it's because the SWTOR protagonists have a bit more personality than the typical Bioware PC. That helps in the sense that the romance helps the character story, even if I'm ambivalent or even squickish. For my Agent, for example, Raina Temple becomes something of a morality pet, and the symbol of his independence as an individual. Becoming close was a choice he could make, even when he was being brainwashed. It might not have been a particularly good choice, of course- especially since she was there when he gave the Black Codex to the SIS- but it was his way to rebel against everything. Against the Empire, the SIS, the brainwashing, the regs, and even cold hard common sense. Heaven knows what she'll do when she realizes/accepts that he actually did sincerely join the SIS as a double agent against the Empire.

 

The Temple romance was good for the character arc, in much the same way that rejecting Kaliyo was good for the character arc. I'm interested in the romance arcs in so much that they do support the character at play- that so many of my characters are dealing with themes of 'corruption' only validates the illicit appeal. Personally, yeah, the command relationship alone is why my Shepard didn't have any flings with the crew and team.

 

(He might have tried a fling with corporate security lady, what's her name, but ME3 dropped that.)

 

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The more I think on it, the more I like the idea of the Bounty Hunter being ''law man for hire.'

 

Which I realize probably won't be possible, since (s)he identifies as a mandalorian. And the voice- a good lawman character should have a southern drawl. Male Bounty Hunter is, well, not. I'm guessing there aren't many 'bringing in for justice' themes or lines going about.

[Aimi]

The more I think on it, the more I like the idea of the Bounty Hunter being ''law man for hire.'
 
Which I realize probably won't be possible, since (s)he identifies as a mandalorian. And the voice- a good lawman character should have a southern drawl. Male Bounty Hunter is, well, not. I'm guessing there aren't many 'bringing in for justice' themes or lines going about.

Not really. Although it does sometimes come up, the Bounty Hunter class quest on Tatooine torpedoes any attempt to act consistently honorably.

On the other hand, being a Mando isn't something you're locked into doing. You can shut Mako down when she fangirls about Mandos, and you can reject Mandalore's offer of becoming a Mandalorian at the beginning of Chapter 2 with no consequences. (Considering Mandalore's total failure to do anything at all about the massacre on Nar Shaddaa at the end of Chapter 2, it might actually make more sense for you to not sign up for Planet Sue.)

[Ryzaki]

What is so funny about the LS Sith Inquisitor? 

 

I went near full dark side with my mine so I haven't seen how the LS Sith plays out. I was kind of traditional with my characters and went light side with the Jedi and dark side with the Sith.

 

Mostly the sarcasm and the whole way they subvert expectations of a sith Also being able to call Jedi out on being more unreasonable than you are is always a bonus. (It's one of the reasons I like LS SW as well).

[Aimi]

Also being able to call Jedi out on being more unreasonable than you are is always a bonus. (It's one of the reasons I like LS SW as well).

LS SW spends the entire second half of Chapter 1 trolling every Jedi she sees. It's pretty fantastic.

[AresKeith]

LS SW spends the entire second half of Chapter 1 trolling every Jedi she sees. It's pretty fantastic.

 

The trolling was amazing as the SW lol

[Ryzaki]

*sigh* and now I can't log into my account. Yay. Can't make a new one either. I CTD once and I can't relog. GG BW.

 

I keep getting the pretty Login Failed screen. Tried to get them to reset my password but they have yet to send the mail. *rubs temples*

[Aimi]

*sigh* and now I can't log into my account. Yay. Can't make a new one either. I CTD once and I can't relog. GG BW.
 
I keep getting the pretty Login Failed screen. Tried to get them to reset my password but they have yet to send the mail. *rubs temples*

They're apparently experiencing a lot of login issues and are currently conducting maintenance to fix the problem.

...one of these days, I should probably take SWTOR off of my Twitter feed...

[Dean_the_Young]

I had an issue like that last week- came back half an hour later and it was good, before running into it again shortly the next day.

 

Now that I found my mouse, I'm actually enjoying the starfighter minigame. I wish I knew where to get level 7 upgrades from, though: aside from the one at the fleet, I haven't seen any. Currently the starfighter is the only reason I'm logging into my Agent.

 

(And, honestly, what a are the fleet commendations even good for? I can't recall seeing anything that wasn't either trash or outrageously overpriced in more commendations than a F2P can make in a month.)

[SwobyJ]

After a couple years... I'm Lv 45... I... can... do... it....

[Ryzaki]

They're apparently experiencing a lot of login issues and are currently conducting maintenance to fix the problem.

...one of these days, I should probably take SWTOR off of my Twitter feed...

 

Ah. Welp. The patch as always broke something. Yay.

 

 

I had an issue like that last week- came back half an hour later and it was good, before running into it again shortly the next day.

 

Now that I found my mouse, I'm actually enjoying the starfighter minigame. I wish I knew where to get level 7 upgrades from, though: aside from the one at the fleet, I haven't seen any. Currently the starfighter is the only reason I'm logging into my Agent.

 

(And, honestly, what a are the fleet commendations even good for? I can't recall seeing anything that wasn't either trash or outrageously overpriced in more commendations than a F2P can make in a month.)

 

 

XD

 

*shudders* starfighter. I love PVp but I couldn't do that more than 2 rounds.

[SwobyJ]

Lv 47... Voss... come on...

[OdanUrr]

Lv 47... Voss... come on...

 

You can do it!

 

[SwobyJ]

Lv 48 and at least half way through Voss! AW yeeee!

 

Task list after is: Voss Heroics, Cleaning up old Heroics, Directive 7

[Obadiah]

Directive 7 - the one flashpoint that weirdly references the Mass Effect plot. The last time I did it, the group had a female Commando with Femshep's voice who won last line in the conversation. Appropriate.

[SwobyJ]

Oh by now I'm convinced that Bioware has its own metanarrative going on - one that SWTOR (relatively slightly, compared to BW's more original IPs) references from time to time

 

SWTOR is still full of that stuff though.

 

I really enjoyed the 'Red Reaper'. I hope Directive 7 is good too.