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I'm hoping it turns out to be not Revan at all. 


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I'm hoping it turns out to be not Revan at all. 

 

That would be a good twist, but building an army seems to be Revan's method.

 

Mandalorian Wars  = Convinces a large group of Jedi and Republic Soldiers to join him

Jedi Civil War =  Uses his Sith Empire to attack the Republic, but leaves key infrastructure intact.

Cold War = Uses the Foundry to build an army to eradicate the Sith Empire

(?) Second Great Galactic War = Forge Alliances = Attempts to build an infinite army, is leading the Revanites 

(?) Second Great Galactic War = Future content = Will likely attempt to build an army 

 

I have seen speculation that it is actually

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who took on the persona in an attempt to regain power, because he knows that he can never be
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again. I don't believe it myself, because the body size and voice are different, but he could be uses something to change his voice. 



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I have seen speculation that it is actually

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who took on the persona in an attempt to regain power, because he knows that he can never be
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again. I don't believe it myself, because the body size and voice are different, but he could be uses something to change his voice. 

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I do like the idea of it not actually being Revan though. That'd be a really cool twist.


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Hmm, I'm not sure how accurate that is... my female Merc never had to jump through any hoops before getting things going with Torian.

 

Maybe it was because she'd already done most of Mako's conversations?

Still putting in spoiler tags, just in case.  :)

 

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Also the red light in Revans mask obviously means he is a cylon, sillies :P


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I do like the idea of it not actually being Revan though. That'd be a really cool twist.

You make a good point and I agree. Although,

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The voice acting sounds different to me from what it did in the Foundry flashpoint, so it might not actually be Revan, but they could have just changed voice actors due to contractual issues or it could be the same guy using a slightly different voice. 


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Still putting in spoiler tags, just in case.  :)

 

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Also the red light in Revans mask obviously means he is a cylon, sillies :P

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Caprica Revan?  ^_^


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The upcoming expansion's announcement is finally official now:

http://www.swtor.com...ncement-trailer

 

10.06.2014

THE SAGA CONTINUES IN STARS WARS: THE OLD REPUBLIC WITH SHADOW OF REVAN, AN ALL-NEW DIGITAL EXPANSION

 

 

Revan Returns in a New Story-Driven Expansion with Five New Levels of Adventure - Launching December 9

Pre-Order by November 2 to Secure Early Access and Exclusive Grand Statue of Revan*


AUSTIN, Texas – October 6, 2014 – Prepare to face Revan, one of the galaxy’s most revered characters, in the latest story-driven adventure from Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. BioWare™, a division of Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: EA), and LucasArts have announced a brand-new digital expansion, Shadow of Revan, coming December 9, 2014. Shadow of Revan offers five new levels of story-driven missions, an increased level cap of 60, new worlds to explore, high-level multiplayer Flashpoints and Operations to join with friends in dynamic challenges and much more. Plus, for a limited-time, all Subscribers who pre-order receive a Class Experience Boost, offering players 12x experience gain through Level 55 with the opportunity to immerse themselves exclusively in exciting class story missions, but only through December 1, 2014.

In Shadow of Revan, a long-hidden sect of extremists has emerged from the ongoing war between the Sith Empire and the Galactic Republic. This group is led by Revan, the former hero of the Jedi Civil War. These fanatical “Revanites” are gathering an army with an apocalyptic plan that will leave the Republic and the Empire in ashes. Players will prepare to face Revan and adventure alongside a host of intriguing characters, including Theron Shan, Lana Beniko, and Jakarro the Wookiee.

Beginning today, players can pre-order Shadow of Revan for $19.99 online at http://www.swtor.com/buy.

Players who pre-order by November 2, 2014 will receive:

  • One week of Early Access to Shadow of Revan starting December 2
  • Exclusive Grand Statue of Revan to display in Player Strongholds
  • The Digital expansion: Rise of the Hutt Cartel (subscribers automatically receive Rise of the Hutt Cartel)

Players who pre-order by December 1, 2014 will receive:

  • Exclusive Grand Statue of Revan to display in Player Strongholds
  • The Digital Expansion Rise of the Hutt Cartel (subscribers automatically receive Rise of the Hutt Cartel)

Subscribers who pre-order the digital expansion will receive a Class Experience Boost as a bonus with the following details:

  • Players are offered 12x experience gain while playing exclusively through class story missions up to Level 55
  • The boost is effective immediately and expires on December 1, 2014

Star Wars: The Old Republic is a free-to-play, award-winning MMO set thousands of years before the classic Star Wars™ movies. Players team up with friends online to fight in heroic battles between the Republic and Empire, explore a galaxy of vibrant planets and experience intense Star Wars combat. Now players can experience the complete storylines of the eight iconic Star Wars classes all the way to Level 60 without having to pay a monthly fee. The free-to-play option complements the existing subscription offering, providing greater flexibility in how to experience Star Wars: The Old Republic.



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Did I just read that right? "Class story missions".



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Did I just read that right? "Class story missions".

Unfortunately not in the way you think.

They're giving pre-orders an XP boost to the existing class missions, so you can level up to 55 without having to do all the side content.

I had to do a double take as well when I first read it.



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Unfortunately not in the way you think.

They're giving pre-orders an XP boost to the existing class missions, so you can level up to 55 without having to do all the side content.

I had to do a double take as well when I first read it.



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My sentiment exactly!

Though as some people pointed out on the official forums, they haven't really revealed what format the new stories will take. So there's still a chance of getting class stories, or at least more personalized ones.

Hopefully we'll learn more info soon.



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as the token Revan fanboy, I do think they are milking him too much. it would be interesting that the "Revan" in TOR is not Revan but a deranged Jedi.


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This part worries me:
 

Prepare to face Revan and his fanatical followers as you adventure through five new levels of story-driven Star Wars™ missions, reach new heights of power at an increased Level Cap of 60, explore exciting worlds and fight new high-level multiplayer Flashpoints and Operations in the Digital Expansion, Shadow of Revan!


What exactly is a level? Are FPs and Ops considered levels? Will be need to run ops in order to finish the story as in Oricon?

My bad, it's apparent the levels are actually 55-60. My point remains as to how much content are we talking about and whether or not we'll need to run Ops to finish the story-driven content. I didn't like that bit about Oricon.

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Leave it to Bioware Austin to finally give players something they've been asking for in a way no one asked for it. My hype for the class story xp boost vanished as fast as it came when I read it was a limited time pre-order bonus.


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Leave it to Bioware Austin to finally give players something they've been asking for in a way no one asked for it. My hype for the class story xp boost vanished as fast as it came when I read it was a limited time pre-order bonus.


I would've made it a feature that can be toggled on or off once you've completed a specific class story. Maybe even tie it to Legacy 50 if you really want to push it.
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I would've made it a feature that can be toggled on or off once you've completed a specific class story. Maybe even tie it to Legacy 50 if you really want to push it.

I would resub in a heartbeat if they ever did that. I want to experience the rest of the class stories I never got around to doing, but I don't like the the idea of being given a time limit to do it.



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I would've made it a feature that can be toggled on or off once you've completed a specific class story. Maybe even tie it to Legacy 50 if you really want to push it.

 

That would be a good idea, it pretty clearly couldn't be permanent just simply for subscribing. I have 3 level 55s and I haven't got legacy level 50 yet. But with this new expansion I will be pre-ordering and levelling my butt off on my alts until it hits.



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Empire and Republic working together? Against Revan? Riiight... Revan just happens to pull out something out of nowhere to somehow require combined efforts of both Empire and Republic? Sounds stupid.

Like the idea of leveling only via class missions, though I've never really made it to 55. I grow tired of a character as soon as I finish the class storylines. So seems like this will be offering me very little.



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Empire and Republic working together? Against Revan? Riiight... Revan just happens to pull out something out of nowhere to somehow require combined efforts of both Empire and Republic? Sounds stupid.

Like the idea of leveling only via class missions, though I've never really made it to 55. I grow tired of a character as soon as I finish the class storylines. So seems like this will be offering me very little.

 

Actually the idea of the Empire and the Republic joining forces could be pretty cool IF that is converted to gameplay in the forms of FPs and Ops, maybe even standard missions.



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Actually the idea of the Empire and the Republic joining forces could be pretty cool IF that is converted to gameplay in the forms of FPs and Ops, maybe even standard missions.

Probably would offer something for those who like playing with others, I personally play mostly solo, got other games for the "group/op" kind of things.

I really don't like the idea of having to find a guild or capable bunch of players players to see the main story.

Wonder if they have some kind of long term plan behind all this or they've just snapped completely after Disney came into play. "Doesn't matter anymore, let's just throw it all out there and hope for the best"


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Probably would offer something for those who like playing with others, I personally play mostly solo, got other games for the "group/op" kind of things.

I really don't like the idea of having to find a guild or capable bunch of players players to see the main story.

Wonder if they have some kind of long term plan behind all this or they've just snapped completely after Disney came into play. "Doesn't matter anymore, let's just throw it all out there and hope for the best"

 

No, I agree with you here. It didn't sit at all well with me that I had to run not one but two ops on Oricon to see how the story finished. I prefer Makeb in that respect since you can solo the story. What I said above was that I would welcome the possibility of being able to run mixed FPs and Ops since up until now you can only do them with Republic or Imperial characters only but not with both in the same group. Can you imagine a Sorcerer healing a Vanguard? :D


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Actually the idea of the Empire and the Republic joining forces could be pretty cool IF that is converted to gameplay in the forms of FPs and Ops, maybe even standard missions.

 

It would have made much more sense to have the Republic and Empire player characters join forces to take down the reborn (after the Jedi Knight 'killed him') Sith Emperor, whose end goal should make him an enemy to protagonists on both sides. 

 

Unless he is being saved for another expansion.

 

Also Revan is a ridiculous Mary Sue. The less seen of him, the better.


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It would have made much more sense to have the Republic and Empire player characters join forces to take down the reborn (after the Jedi Knight 'killed him') Sith Emperor, whose end goal should make him an enemy to protagonists on both sides. 

 

Unless he is being saved for another expansion.

 

Also Revan is a ridiculous Mary Sue. The less seen of him, the better.

 

 

Revan is no so much a Mary Sue but a over milked "iconic" Kotor character. As a blind Revan's fanboy, I don't see any point to have him or Jedi Exile to be in the Revan Novel(it has its good moments but Drew could have made it better if Revan or the Jedi Exile wasn't in it) and Those 2 flashpoints and this Expansion. 

 

I haven't played TOR but It doesn't need Revan, Jedi Exile, and Hk-47(I am a fan of all 3) to make it good or draw true star wars fans to it.



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Empire and Republic working together? Against Revan? Riiight... Revan just happens to pull out something out of nowhere to somehow require combined efforts of both Empire and Republic? Sounds stupid.

 

They've already put out a significant amount of the story behind it in the current forged alliances story arc, so its not really out of nowhere.

 

They do run the risk of overusing Revan and trampling further all over our player character from kotor but I'm hoping there is a twist, plus I'm kind of over all the outrage over how they've treated Revan.   


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It would have made much more sense to have the Republic and Empire player characters join forces to take down the reborn (after the Jedi Knight 'killed him') Sith Emperor, whose end goal should make him an enemy to protagonists on both sides. 

 

Unless he is being saved for another expansion.

 

Also Revan is a ridiculous Mary Sue. The less seen of him, the better.

I am calling it now, Revan has been possessed by the Sith Emperor. Spoilers mixed with speculation in regards to the Foundry and Maelstrom Nebula flashpoints and the Jedi Knight story follow: Due to Revan being in the Emperor's captivity for 300 years the Emperor was able to gradually break Revan's mind down all the while reading it, slowly pushing him towards the dark side, Revan was able to resist for the most part and was able to hide the location of the Foundry from the Emperor. The Emperor came up with another plan to find the Foundry: allow Revan to be freed and lead him to it he shall, which he did. Revan began to put in motion a plan to exterminate everyone with Sith Imperial blood which, ironically, would have completed the Sith Emperor's ritual to gain immortality. However, during the final hour and Imperial Strike Team appeared and bested Revan in combat, during his apparent final moments Revan experienced clarity and quoted Darth Malak's final words as he disappeared in a flash of light. 

 

This flash of light turned out to be Revan using the power of the Force to teleport. Or was it? I believe the Sith Emperor used the Force to transport Revan back into his clutches, I believe that Revan was on death's door on the Foundry and that once back in the Emperor's clutches what was left of his mental resistance and life slowly ebbed away. The Emperor went on to leave either a captive or a recently deceased Revan and journeyed to the Dark Temple on Drumond Kaas to complete his ritual, but was bested by the Jedi Knight. Defeated and without a vessel the Emperor either possessed Revan's dying body/weakened body/corpse or his essence was caught by one of his hands and transferred into Revan. 

 

Why would the Sith Emperor take control of the Revanites and abandon his Empire? The loyalty of his Dark Council is in question and the Revanites are beyond fanatical towards Revan, what better than to play a role and have an unquestionably loyal army? Why do I believe it is the Emperor and not Revan? I cannot imagine Revan wanting to destroy the Republic, he purposefully left its infrastructure intact during the Jedi Civil War so that it could fight the Sith Empire. Furthermore, on the Foundry he was so desperate to destroy the Sith Imperial bloodline so that the Republic would be saved, also during the Mandalorian War he defied the Jedi Council to stop the Mandalorians from conquering/destroying the Republic, the connecting thread is that he doesn't want the Republic to fall, it would go against what he was fighting for. 

 

I also think that the expansion gives away some of this with the name Shadow of Revan; A shadow can be less than or not of. 

It might also be hinting that even if possessed a portion of Revan has retained itself and might come into play.