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#1326
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I just wish Yaven 4 was better. Outside the stuff with Marr and the Rwevan fight it self, it was very underwhelming and there was alot of stuff that was not even recognized at parts. While Ziost was short, it did a fantastic job with what it wanted to do plus that ending cutscenes. Rishi was also enjoyable despite the campy feel (which does not fit inquisitors or warriors) at the start.

Well prior to Revan, everyone was avoiding it because of all the Force shenanigans. According to Risha, not even the most hardcore criminals want to hide out there.

 

I despised how the Empire and Republic were teaming up. AGAIN! Just sign another treaty already jeez.

Again? When did they team up before? The only other time was Fatal Alliance but I don't think that's as well known.



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I despised how the Empire and Republic were teaming up. AGAIN! Just sign another treaty already jeez.

 

I have no issue with the joint operation it makes sense. The issue is Saresh again makes another idiotic call. Saresh has officially made THREE calls that have been beyond terrible. She refused to focus on the weaken Empire and decided to help Makeb, thus allowing them to get resources and became a threat again, she refused to continue the truce with the empire post-Yaven to focus on the true enemy (Marr and Shan where willing) and don't get me started on Ziost. Marr himself banned any reinforcements to Ziost because of how bad the situation was. What does she do despite being told two times not too? Sends a meal to Ziost.


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#1328
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Again? When did they team up before? The only other time was Fatal Alliance but I don't think that's as well known.

 

Temporary cease fire for Illum, team up for dread masters, team up for Revan. And most likely a team up for Fallen empire. It's getting annoying now that's all.

 

I have no issue with the joint operation it makes sense. The issue is Saresh again makes another idiotic call. Saresh has officially made THREE calls that have been beyond terrible. She refused to focus on the weaken Empire and decided to help Makeb, thus allowing them to get resources and became a threat again, she refused to continue the truce with the empire post-Yaven to focus on the true enemy (Marr and Shan where willing) and don't get me started on Ziost. Marr himself banned any reinforcements to Ziost because of how bad the situation was. What does she do despite being told two times not too? Sends a meal to Ziost.

 

Yeah she's pretty useless. I prefer Aulani.



#1329
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Temporary cease fire for Illum, team up for dread masters, team up for Revan. And most likely a team up for Fallen empire. It's getting annoying now that's all.

A cease fire is not a team-up. Both Ilum and Oricon were set up as independent attacks. Both sides have separate bases. Try to go to the opposite faction's base in either case. You'll get cut down before you get the chance to say "parlay".

 

Rhyming completely unintentional.

 

Now what is annoying and fits the pattern every time is the constant bigger threat that both sides must stop and face. Comes to a head in Fallen Empire that's literally Bigger Jaws on every level.



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To be fair, with Malgus, Dread Masters and Revan. DO you really want to have either of those three roaming around while you try to kill eachother? The cease fire on Ilum/Oricon and the joint operation on Yaven 4 makes perfect sense. Then of course Theron and Saresh screw up big time on Ziost but that's a new can of worms.


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#1331
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A cease fire is not a team-up. Both Ilum and Oricon were set up as independent attacks. Both sides have separate bases. Try to go to the opposite faction's base in either case. You'll get cut down before you get the chance to say "parlay".

 

Rhyming completely unintentional.

 

Now what is annoying and fits the pattern every time is the constant bigger threat that both sides must stop and face. Comes to a head in Fallen Empire that's literally Bigger Jaws on every level.

 

 

To be fair, with Malgus, Dread Masters and Revan. DO you really want to have either of those three roaming around while you try to kill eachother? The cease fire on Ilum/Oricon and the joint operation on Yaven 4 makes perfect sense. Then of course Theron and Saresh screw up big time on Ziost but that's a new can of worms.

 

They do make sense. It's just really tiresome at this point. It's even beginning to slip into DBZ power creep levels.



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I despised how the Empire and Republic were teaming up. AGAIN! Just sign another treaty already jeez.

 

 

 

Oh yeah I forgot all about that.

Welcome to MASH Star Wars edition, the war has to go on forever otherwise the game ends. A threat that they must team up against is the only way that Mythic knows how to keep the Empire and Republic from killing each other and ending the game.



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Welcome to MASH Star Wars edition, the war has to go on forever otherwise the game ends. A threat that they must team up against is the only way that Mythic knows how to keep the Empire and Republic from killing each other and ending the game.

 

Why can't we just have a big game ending conflict then? Whichever side does the most specific quests wins. I suppose they need to keep putting out expansions though. 



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Also looks like Darth Marr will be alive in the upcoming expac (for now anyways)

 

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Also looks like Darth Marr will be alive in the upcoming expac (for now anyways)

 

*snip*

 

That's the scene where he get's beheaded.


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Why can't we just have a big game ending conflict then? Whichever side does the most specific quests wins. I suppose they need to keep putting out expansions though.


I most certainly hope they wont end it just like that.

I'm enjoying this game too much.

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That's the scene where he get's beheaded.

Noooooooooooooo :(


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#1338
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I most certainly hope they wont end it just like that.

I'm enjoying this game too much.

 

That was just throwing out random ideas. A massive epic conflict would be much better obviously.



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That's the scene where he get's beheaded.


*insert darth vader nooooooooooooo*

#1340
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Noooooooooooooo :(

 

 

*insert darth vader nooooooooooooo*

 

His hands look tied up just saying.



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That was just throwing out random ideas. A massive epic conflict would be much better obviously.


Hopefully Eternal Empire enemies will become trash kills for a while.

That way they can justify another peace treaty without gameplay breaking its lore.

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His hands look tied up just saying.


I'm getting return of the jedi vibes from that pic.

Marr is Luke Skywalker confirmed.

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Hopefully Eternal Empire enemies will become trash kills for a while.

That way they can justify another peace treaty without gameplay breaking its lore.

 

Unless they design different environments for each side like with Makeb.



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Well if anything, I hope this new factions is interesting.

 

And I'm rather curios of the lvl 60 playable character "Ourlander" will turn out to be.

 

And of course, how JK will act. Loved the story and what my character has gone through, so looking forward on continuing again.



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Well don't we play five years after the war began and it had seem like both sides had been getting udertly destroyed  so they kinda have to team up but we have no idea where the story will go after this maybe something leading up to kotor 3 maybe not but I am interested to see where this goes



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Really, this expac is clearly the end for TOR. There's only one Outlander (the other seven class characters apparently die in your story) both republic and empire are pretty much done ect.

 

It's very clear this is the end game unless Bioware changes there stance on there only being one Outlander or the seven others are not freed from their cyro until after the story is finished there's just nothing you can really do after except for solo stories.



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Really, this expac is clearly the end for TOR. There's only one Outlander (the other seven class characters apparently die in your story) both republic and empire are pretty much done ect.

 

It's very clear this is the end game unless Bioware changes there stance on there only being one Outlander or the seven others are not freed from their cyro until after the story is finished there's just nothing you can really do after except for solo stories.

 

Maybe. Unless they decide to have more expansions set after that one.



#1348
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Maybe. Unless they decide to have more expansions set after that one.

Like I said, only way that's possible is if the other 7 heros are awaken after the expac, which yeah, that removes this issue from future expacs/MMO content.



#1349
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Really I just hope they have the sense to end gracefully. As in, they know when the game's run its course and make plans for a satisfying and fitting conclusion.

 

-Fallen Empire defeated and erased (there's no mention of them in later accounts). Unless they're just Sith under another name.

-Sith Empire defeated and/or absorbed, or maybe even independent still but back in the Unknown Regions and no longer a threat, with the Sith themselves all but destroyed until the next time they rise.

-Chiss Ascendancy withdrawn without a trace.

-Republic restored and back to normal.



#1350
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Like I said, only way that's possible is if the other 7 heros are awaken after the expac, which yeah, that removes this issue from future expacs/MMO content.

 

It's likely they'll just go the 8 different timeline routes.