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#1951
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The exapansion isn't out yet and the heartache and complaining have already begun. It's definitely a Bioware game. :wizard:

If Bioware was like blizzard that aired everything, even undesirable stuff as they do with WOW, the complaints would probably not be so bad. Bioware is being too secret and not answering alot of questions thus there's sooooo much uncertainty.



#1952
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Not anymore. Mara and sent are no longer viable in end game content. Our rotations are ruined, we lost our accuracy buff skills, we lost our 4.0 second Gore window, we lost our raid buff unique in raids, our burst damage is destroyed, mechanics for Ravangers and ToS for every boss screw us over. The list goes on and why as of 3.0 Mara/sents are the most non-viable class now because Bioware completely and utter destroyed the class.

 

My Marauder does just fine in Ops.



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Dang... I'm converted...

Spoiler

 


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#1954
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If Bioware was like blizzard that aired everything, even undesirable stuff as they do with WOW, the complaints would probably not be so bad. Bioware is being too secret and not answering alot of questions thus there's sooooo much uncertainty.

 

ME3 is why they started being so sneaky. I don't blame them honestly.


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#1955
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My Marauder does just fine in Ops.

I'm talking about Ravengers and ToS not the pre 3.0 ops, which where balanced for both range and melee.



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ALso why can't we kill Quinn in KotFE?



#1957
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ALso why can't we kill Quinn in KotFE?

 

I dunno. Guess it would make little sense to kill him at this point.



#1958
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I dunno. Guess it would make little sense to kill him at this point.

But,



#1959
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I'm talking about Ravengers and ToS not the pre 3.0 ops, which where balanced for both range and melee.

 

My Marauder has run ToS a bunch of times.

 

I've never had a problem with it.

 

My level of investment in KotFE has fallen dramatically though.

 

I want mah waifus.


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#1960
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My Marauder has run ToS a bunch of times.

 

I've never had a problem with it.

 

Uh huh



#1961
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Goddammit. 

 

And here I was hoping for some more Kira/Elara/Vette/Ashara/Risha/ interactions.

 

No! You will romance "Epic Fail" Shan or "I'm the Minister of Intelligence but fail to notice that my second in command is a republic spy" Beniko and you will like it!


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#1962
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At least the writers pet has some character. Theron is as interesting as a piece of wood.



#1963
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At least the writers pet has some character. Theron is as interesting as a piece of wood.

 

Theron along with Satele continues to be a disappointment to Reven. No wonder he went crazy.


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#1964
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If they didn't try so hard to make Theron appeal to women, I might of cared for him.



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Theron along with Satele continues to be a disappointment to Reven. No wonder he went crazy.

 

Nah that contributed.

 

Revan really went crazy because he couldn't accept that he's an NPC now.



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He learned he would have a horrible voice and have no sense of threat as a villain too.

 

SIgh, how the hell did we go from the Dread Masters to Revan?



#1967
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Nah that contributed.

 

Revan really went crazy because he couldn't accept that he's an NPC now.

 

I'd be pretty upset if I couldn't abuse poor AI and balance issues to win anymore tbh.

 

He learned he would have a horrible voice and have no sense of threat as a villain too.

 

SIgh, how the hell did we go from the Dread Masters to Revan?

 

Ehh at least SOR Revan is better than Flashpoint Revan.



#1968
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SoR Revan did give us a fun solo boss fight at least.



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Nah, everybody knows that the real Revan wouldn't go crazy and kill the Emperor with an insane ceremony. The real Revan would get smashed on stims until his eyeballs bled, abuse the insane pathing AI, and reload the instant something went wrong. He would be unstoppable.
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Nah, everybody knows that the real Revan wouldn't go crazy and kill the Emperor with an insane ceremony. The real Revan would get smashed on stims until his eyeballs bled, abuse the insane pathing AI, and reload the instant something went wrong. He would be unstoppable.

 

Don't forget the mines.

 

So many mines.


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#1971
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SoR Revan did give us a fun solo boss fight at least.

 

Ewww no. Those damn orbs were a pain in the ass.


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#1972
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Ewww no. Those damn orbs were a pain in the ass.

I guess I'm too used to OPs. Those orbs are like seeing an old friend.



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I guess I'm too used to OPs. Those orbs are like seeing an old friend.

 

I'm glad I don't do ops.


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Different abilities. Vitaite is more powerful but the Dread masters are specialists.

 

That really isn't a good excuse. It's mind manipulation at it's core and it makes no sense for the fear to work then (and then not work once you get on Oricon) but you completely no sell Vitaite without even thinking. Even if it was just you somewhat falling for it as a non sith and Lana slapping you out of it it'd been better. Not to mention Vitaite has had millenial in comparison to hone his skills. It makes sense at the moment (of course a normal can't no sell a sith) but when they later have you latter no selling the damn Emperor (without any difficulty) it looks laughable and badly thought out. Should've had a short side quest for non sith to gain an implant or something to explain this sudden immunity.
 

That's only for non-force users. Force users resist the dread Masters (outside gameplay of course since the fear stuff is for mechanics) The fact that the the wrath, consular and SI CAN resist both Vitiate and Dread masters is fine, it's how the force users can't (and they only stop tormenting them because they felt bad) but go on Ziost and they are having no issues where even the writers pet is having issues stopping him getting into her head. Ziost makes no sense as a non-force user, despite the amusing dialog for smuggler.

I know which is why I said non sith :P



#1975
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ALso why can't we kill Quinn in KotFE?

 

If we can kill Quinn we better be able to kill Skadge, Ashara and freaking Gault.

 

Also I liked Shan. <3

 

Least my smuggler and consular can romance someone who's not as interesting as watching paint dry now.