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[CrutchCricket]

If you thought that the 192-equivalent Devoted Allies gear would mean anything after a level cap rise, then you probably weren't thinking very clearly. The Yavin weekly gear is useful, but it's only useful for the content that comes out before 4.0.

And if your companions didn't need the Yavin weekly gear for any of the stuff that we've got so far, then there's no real reason to farm it for the gear, is there?

I, for one, rather like the idea that companion power will be based on influence, because it removes the need for an outfit designer for them. Now I can put Jaesa back into her Relnex robes without being perturbed about efficiency losses.

Better than the story companion gear they were in (some of it from chapter 1). I've never really geared my companions until 55. And even then it was only mods in the weapons and earpieces/implants.
 
I can see the advantage of not having to gear companions. Just makes trying to gear them now seem like kind of a waste. Particularly since things are looking so bleak for their return already.
 

I have no idea how flying around with a massive army, taking back entire planets and uncovering mysteries/conspiracies is boring.

 That's when it gets good. But Chapter 1 and especially Tython make you want to throw your own brain at the screen.

 

I also don't mind the Male VA at all. He's a Jedi. That's what (some) Jedi sound like. I expected it so I'm not bothered by it.
 

Harkun really grew on me.
 
Especially after you visit him to search for an apperantice. His VA was fantastic.

Still don't like him. But I let him live, to make his humiliation at serving me complete.
 
Xalek may not be as merciful though if/when he ever ascends.
 

 lol, I'm not one to rub it in, especially since I didn't hate the character but the offhanded way that was said just made me burst out laughing. I'm sure it'll make sense in the context of the finished product but right now with just the audio "btw did you hear he's dead?" akes me want to reply "Oh. Well, crazy weather we're having eh?":lol:
 

Um, you do remember the fact that Baras DROPPED A FRICKEN CAVE ON THE WRATH. There's no way you can prepare for that despite knowing full well he would betray you soon. He never betrayed you in person because Baras FEARED you, just like he feared Norman Karr.

Yes feared him so much he engineered a death a Bond villain would find irresponsible...

[Liamv2]

That's when it gets good. But Chapter 1 and especially Tython make you want to throw your own brain at the screen.

 

I also don't mind the Male VA at all. He's a Jedi. That's what (some) Jedi sound like. I expected it so I'm not bothered by it.

 

Oh yeah Act 1 definitely has it's issues. I liked Tython but I kept screwing with Jedi so that is probably a big reason why.

[mousestalker]

I'm playing my Jedi Shadow right now. Chapter 3 has been fun so far. Spanking the naughty Children is great fun.

[Ryzaki]

Normally I hate blandness but the male Consular might actually work in my favor and allow me to get that Kotomine Kirei effect 

 

I'll also be able to romance torture poor Nadia a bit.

 

Yes! I can see it now. A dysfunctional jedi who instead of getting happiness from love, gains happiness from the suffering of others!

 

XD

 

DS Consular is the Consular's only saving grace. And even then =/

 

 

Lumping the Female consular's VA in with the Male Consular's VA is a ****** crime.

 

Male Consular sounds bored and boring.

 

Female Consular sounds serene. Even when Dark Side...

 

Especially when Dark Side.

 

She sounds mostly bored during the romance scenes though (and even during some highly OMG scenes) it's jarring.

 

Um, you do remember the fact that Baras DROPPED A FRICKEN CAVE ON THE WRATH. There's no way you can prepare for that despite knowing full well he would betray you soon. He never betrayed you in person because Baras FEARED you, just like he feared Norman Karr.

 

The only thing I will give you is the voss to Coreilla interlude, but that's badly written for a few reasons and suffers from a feature being removed from the beta.

 

What Chewin said pretty much. You talk about how you're gonna turn against Baras...and then you pretty much get coddled by the hands into doing so you don't do it on your own. You never actually prepare for his betrayal in any form.

 

Not really even falling for the trick in the first place (especially after Baras's betrayal) was pretty stupid killing him doesn't change the earlier stupidity.

[CrutchCricket]

So if things are as bad as the latest datamining suggests it looks more and more like I'll just roll an off-gender insta-60, probably with a different AC as well and just treat it as a new character. The old heroes are dead/captured/missing. Now it's up to Newbie over here to deal with the latest threat. I'm hoping whatever defaults they've set will preclude too many references to the class stories and that'll allow us to treat the Outlander as a new character.

 

What do people think and what class should they be, if they were new? Some type of Force user seems like a good bet.

[Liamv2]

Probably go through with all of them in the same order i'm playing the stories. SW, JC, BH, S, JK, SI, T, IA

[Ryzaki]

I'm going with my snarky Sith Inquisitor and my Agent.

 

I hope SI can still be snark city. That's the best part of Inquisitor.

[Mr.House]

 

 

What Chavin said pretty much. You talk about how you're gonna turn against Baras...and then you pretty much get coddled by the hands into doing so you don't do it on your own. You never actually prepare for his betrayal in any form.

 

Not really even falling for the trick in the first place (especially after Baras's betrayal) was pretty stupid killing him doesn't change the earlier stupidity.

It's an MMO, the writers still need to accommodate for that which means hand holding and being told what to do. Even Darth Nox has to follow the commands of random admirals and moffs for quests. No class does anything on their own volition or without hand holding.

[Ryzaki]

It's an MMO, the writers still need to accommodate for that which means hand holding and being told what to do. No class does anything on their own volition or without hand holding.

 

Agent.

 

The handholding is them so

[TobiTobsen]

I'm going with my snarky Sith Inquisitor and my Agent.

 

I hope SI can still be snark city. That's the best part of Inquisitor.

 

 I want to shock Lana. Repeatedly.

[Mr.House]

Agent.

 

The handholding is them so

Watcher 2, Watcher X ect

 

I can go on.

[Mr.House]

 I want to shock Lana. Repeatedly.

Force choke, in bed.

 

sith BDSM

[CrutchCricket]

Probably go through with all of them in the same order i'm playing the stories. SW, JC, BH, S, JK, SI, T, IA

Even if all companions were coming back, to go through a story eight times, without even the artificial flavoring of faction variations... don't know if that'll happen for me.

[Ryzaki]

Watcher 2, Watcher X ect

 

I can go on.

 

During the cure sequences? That was your subconscious considering he was quite dead in my game. Agent flat out says as much.

[Mr.House]

During the cure sequences? That was your subconscious considering he was quite dead in my game. Agent flat out says as much.

I like how you dodged Watcher 2.

 

Also Watcher X can be alive or dead so while it was your subconscious in your pt, one could argue it was him if oyu didn't kill him.

[Ryzaki]

I like how you dodged Watcher 2.

 

Watcher 2 doesn't help you during that sequence considering she doesn't even know what's occurred that's half the plot point that no one knows wtf is going on except you (and obviously Mr. Codeword) and you're stuck helping yourself while dealing with Kuul (or however it's spelled).

[Mr.House]

Watcher 2 doesn't help you during that sequence considering she doesn't even know what's occurred that's half the plot point that no one knows wtf is going on except you and you're stuck helping yourself while dealing with Kuul (or however it's spelled).

So the watcher 2 who gave you all your misisons, details, contacts and helped you in the act 1 final was a ghost?

[CrutchCricket]

It's an MMO, the writers still need to accommodate for that which means hand holding and being told what to do. Even Darth Nox has to follow the commands of random admirals and moffs for quests. No class does anything on their own volition or without hand holding.

Depends on what you define as hand holding. The SI is pretty much acting on his own after Chapter 1.

 

I need ghosts-> here's where they are.

I need healing-> here's where you go.

 

I wouldn't consider getting your lackeys to do the tedious research "hand holding".

 

The BH is even more independent, especially after he wins the Great Hunt.

[Ryzaki]

So the watcher 2 who gave you all your misisons, details, contacts and helped you in the act 1 final was a ghost?

 

I'm talking about act 2. The Cure for the mindcontrol is in act 2.

 

Or do you care to show a chapter (or even a decent plot point) where warrior wasn't handheld for comparison?

[Mr.House]

Depends on what you define as hand holding. The SI is pretty much acting on his own after Chapter 1.

 

I need ghosts-> here's where they are.

I need healing-> here's where you go.

 

I wouldn't consider getting your lackeys to do the tedious research "hand holding".

 

The BH is even more independent, especially after he wins the Great Hunt.

It's your companions that research and  find everything for you.

It's Zash that tells you about the ghosts

Your powerbase builds int he background with no help

Moff Pyron contacts you, not the other way around. (had you contacted him, I would have been far more impressed)

 

BH becomes a tool to Tormen and can only break away from it at the end of act 3.

[Mr.House]

I'm talking about act 2. The Cure for the mindcontrol is in act 2.

 

Or do you care to show a chapter (or even a decent plot point) where warrior wasn't handheld for comparison?

I said all characters are guilty of it, including the SW. That is because TOR is still a MMO and thus must follow certain rules.

[Ryzaki]

I said all characters are guilty of it, including the SW. That is because TOR is still a MMO and thus must follow certain rules.

 

And yet there are times (agent) it isn't all encompassing. The really is no excuse for the warrior to be that reliant on other people especially for things they claim they'll take care of themselves. The Baras plotline could've been them finally doing something of their own initiative. But instead they just follow the Hands orders instead of Baras. Literally trading one master for another like a good little attack dog.

[CrutchCricket]

Or do you care to show a chapter (or even a decent plot point) where warrior wasn't handheld for comparison?

There isn't one. But let's be real, the things we're comparing are by no means equal.

 

The agent is a spy that should be following orders. The warrior is a Sith who should always look to break the mold, gain power and rise to the top of the power structure. So the warrior being a lapdog is worse for them than the agent being one, or even the agent breaking the rules.

 

Not that I expect Mr. House to admit this.

 

It's your companions that research and  find everything for you.

It's Zash that tells you about the ghosts

Your powerbase builds int he background with no help

Moff Pyron contacts you, not the other way around. (had you contacted him, I would have been far more impressed)

 

BH becomes a tool to Tormen and can only break away from it at the end of act 3.

That's what they're there for. Underlings do the ****** work.

Zash is under your power now.

You personally take over Palladius' cult and once that's done, your lackeys again do the legwork.

Pyron still becomes your servant not the other way around.

 

BH takes jobs that he's paid for. The plot is the plot is the plot, but he's not tied to Tormen by anything other than money, and possibly honor. That's as independent as you get without the ability to refuse.

[Ryzaki]

I like Inquisitor but they are too much lead around by the nose.

 

Also speaking of falling for obvious betrayals are obvious.

 

Thanaton wants to meet you in a tomb.

 

I love my Inquisitor but jesus he was gullible at times.

[Br3admax]

Thing is, everyone knows it's a trap, including the Inquisitor, but as a member of the Pyramid of Ancient Knowledge, and he being its Dark Consular, you can't exactly tell Thanaton no. Go and you're dead, don't go and you're dead. You don't really have a choice.