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#2176
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Top 5 Protagonist Voices

 

1. Kath Soucie - Female Smuggler

 

2. Grey DeLisle Griffin - Female Bounty Hunter

 

3. Jo Wyatt - Female Imperial Agent

 

4. Xanthe Elbrick - Sith Inquisitor

 

 5. Kari Wahlgren - Jedi Knight

 

Followed closely by Athena Karkanis - Jedi Consular



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I don't think Marr is particularly interesting. I think that he's portrayed as being generally competent, which is such a sharp reversal from most Imp and Sith characters that pro-Imp players are almost automatically disposed positively toward him.

I also don't see why calling Saresh a 'warmonger' is necessarily a bad thing in this particular context. The Republic is at war with the Sith, who are, y'know, Space Magic Nazis with a waayyyyy longer list of war crimes. The Republic also lost the previous war largely (not wholly, but largely) because its leadership lacked the will to carry it through. Pursuing war with the Sith to the knife, or to unconditional surrender, is a perfectly reasonable policy - maybe even the best policy. Saresh's error with Ziost wasn't that she was prosecuting the war with the Sith, but that she did a very uneven job of it. Trying to direct the campaign from Coruscant and failing to pay attention to the intelligence from assets on the ground was not smart.
 

The screw ups Saresh has done is massive.

 

1:What she wants to do if the trooper arrested Rakton is the start of the hatred before Makeb came out

2:Her refusal to launch a full attack on the empire when they where at their weakest to help Makeb shows her incompetence as a leader

3:Refusing to allow Shan to continue the truce to focus on the real enemy because she wants to continue to fight the Empire

4:I don't even need to mention ZIost. It's one of the biggest screw ups by either faction in the game that ended up doing massive damage

 

There was also Taris and how SHE LEFT the project to die. Saresh is pretty much the Garrosh of TOR.


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Yeah while Ziost is the pinnacle of Derpy Republic she had definitely fucked up prior to it.



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Yeah while Ziost is the pinnacle of Derpy Republic she had definitely fucked up prior to it.

 

It's pretty hilarious how she manages to get an agent embedded in the Sith intelligence as second in command only to completely ignore his advice.

 

"WHAT ARE YOU SAYING KOVACH?! I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY ATTACK FORCE! Don't attack? Haha! Good one agent! Suck my lekkus! Attack, Attack, Attack!"


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#2180
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Yep. It's hilariously dumb.



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tl;dr: Female class voices are generally better (and this is from a person who loves the male SW)

I disagree. With the exception of female Agent, I like all the male voices better in cases where I've heard enough of the female to judge. Can't stand female SW for example.

 

I can admit attachment may be coloring my perspective though. For example I initially tried to roll a male agent but once I realized everyone wanted to be Thrawn (inevitable in retrospect) I switched to female. While I didn't mind the male voice at the start, hearing it recently I found it too nasally and annoying. For me the voice is now the character, anything else sounds wrong.

 

Of course, anything is nasally and annoying if it's competing with Jo Wyatt, so there is that...

 

Well, since we've gotten on the topic of protagonist voices. Why don't we list our Top 5 favorite? 

 

 

Go!

1. Male Knight (David Hayter baby!)

2. Female Agent (dat Jo Wyatt)

3. Male Inquisitor (perfect levels of snark mixed with Palpatine-style "something something dark side" spitting out of words.)

4. Male Smuggler (too funny to dislike)

5. Male Trooper (became a fan of Brian Bloom because I now associate his voice with Jackie Estacado from The Darkness 2. Ironic that it was a recast, which I usually hate)



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Saresh is going to regale our Republic characters with a tale she was once told by a good friend of hers; A tale about one Darth Pl-oisonous, whom scoured the galaxy for the secret to immortality and escaping death. 


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If the first thing we do in Chapter One isn't driving Saresh into a star or black hole, I'm unsubbing. 



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The screw ups Saresh has done is massive.
 
1:What she wants to do if the trooper arrested Rakton is the start of the hatred before Makeb came out
2:Her refusal to launch a full attack on the empire when they where at their weakest to help Makeb shows her incompetence as a leader
3:Refusing to allow Shan to continue the truce to focus on the real enemy because she wants to continue to fight the Empire
4:I don't even need to mention ZIost. It's one of the biggest screw ups by the Republic in the game that ended up doing massive damage
 
There was also Taris and how SHE LEFT the project to die.


Read what I wrote more carefully before you post. I wasn't discussing Saresh's overall competence. I wasn't discussing the general opprobrium that the online, forum-going playerbase seems to harbor for her. I was discussing the fairly narrow issue of her insistence on prosecuting the war with the Empire to the knife, and I pointed out that the errors she made in the Ziost storyline had more to do with implementation and execution rather than the most basic level of 'taking advantage of the crisis on Ziost to try to get one over on the Sith'.

Please try to understand that saying "you people have strange opinions about this one specific aspect of a character" is not the same as saying "every single thing that this character has done is amazing and I will defend them all to all critics".

Saresh is pretty much the Garrosh of TOR.


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My only problem with Saresh is that she doesn't take advice of those who actually know how to fight wars. But considering that she had been a slave and saw the Empire's actions on Taris I understand why she hates the imps. And she is relatively harmless compared to some of the genocidal maniacs we see on the empire side :)


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My only problem with Saresh is that she doesn't take advice of those who actually know how to fight wars. But considering that she had been a slave and saw the Empire's actions on Taris I understand why she hates the imps. And she is relatively harmless compared to some of the genocidal maniacs we see on the empire side :)

Wanting to give the empire back one of its most dangerous generals for POWs (who took alot of man power, sacrifices and resources to capture in the first dam place), refusing to focus on the true threat after Yavin and giving him a fricken snack on Ziost is not "harmless"

 

And being a former slave does not excuse utter incompetence. DO I need to remind you that she left Tarris to die?


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DO I need to remind you that she left Tarris to die?
 

 

To be honest Taris wasn't really a brilliant achievement for either side. Just a massive, draining slugfest.

 

The Republic wasted massive ressources and manpower to build and defend a prestige project that they ultimatly lost, while the Empire wasted massive ressources and manpower to conquer said prestige project and all they got for it was a poisonous swamp full of rakghoul.


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To be honest Taris wasn't really a brilliant achievement for either side. Just a massive, draining slugfest.

 

The Republic wasted massive ressources and manpower to build and defend a prestige project that they ultimatly lost, while the Empire wasted massive ressources and manpower to conquer said prestige project and all they got for it was a poisonous swamp full of rakghoul.

She still left it to rot as everyone who stayed behind was slaughtered.



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She still left it to rot as everyone who stayed behind was slaughtered.

 

She got her promotion and the first order of business was to get the hell out of the planet. Who wouldn't? :D



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She got her promotion and the first order of business was to get the hell out of the planet. Who wouldn't? :D

 

I'm pretty sure that Czerka would love that place. I bet that you can make quite a buck there with medicin against swamp rash, unethical biological experiments, chemical weapons, body stripping, grave desecration, scavenging and maybe rakghoul safaris. :D


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I'm pretty sure that Czerka would love that place. I bet that you can make quite a buck there with medicin against swamp rash, unethical biological experiments, chemical weapons, body stripping, grave desecration, scavenging and maybe rakghoul safaris. :D

 

Hmm... I do believe my character has done all of the above. :lol:


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#2192
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Czerka should open an amusement part on Taris.



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Czerka should open an amusement part on Taris.

 

You mean this?

 

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:P


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#2194
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Needs more rakghouls.



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Needs more rakghouls.

 

Doesn't everything?



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Needs more rakghouls.

 

Rakghoul World.... I don't see how that could go catastrophically wrong... make it happen Czerka!



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Rakghoul World.... I don't see how that go catastrophically wrong... make it happen Czerka!

 

"Hey guys the super Rakghoul broke out of confinement."

 

"Eh I'm sure it'll work out."



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"Hey guys the super Rakghoul broke out of confinement."

 

"Eh I'm sure it'll work out."

That's lame and so last century.

 

Make a hybrid rakghoul/droch/orbalisk/sithspawn and then let it get out.



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That's lame and so last century.

 

Make a hybrid rakghoul/droch/orbalisk/sithspawn and then let it get out.

*memories of launch Lost Island flashpoint resurfacing*

 

DAMMIT CRICKET


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The screw ups Saresh has done is massive.

 

1:What she wants to do if the trooper arrested Rakton is the start of the hatred before Makeb came out

2:Her refusal to launch a full attack on the empire when they where at their weakest to help Makeb shows her incompetence as a leader

3:Refusing to allow Shan to continue the truce to focus on the real enemy because she wants to continue to fight the Empire

4:I don't even need to mention ZIost. It's one of the biggest screw ups by either faction in the game that ended up doing massive damage

 

There was also Taris and how SHE LEFT the project to die. Saresh is pretty much the Garrosh of TOR.

 

Garrosh did nothing wrong!


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