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Seeing as Dwarves are back as a playable race PLEASE give us a Dwarf LI!


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I always found everyone hitting on my Dwarven warden to be weird. It just made me uncomfortable, like they have a small person fetish or something.


Small people can't be considered attractive on their own merits? =(

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AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Narrow Margin wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I always found everyone hitting on my Dwarven warden to be weird. It just made me uncomfortable, like they have a small person fetish or something.


I have a cunning plan. What you need is a Dwarven love interest!


Varric.

biowure plz. 


No


AresKeith pls.

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Eterna5 wrote...

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Varric.

biowure plz. 

No

AresKeith plz. 


Bianca says No, along with Sten and Arishok

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Eterna5 wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I always found everyone hitting on my Dwarven warden to be weird. It just made me uncomfortable, like they have a small person fetish or something.

So if anyone likes a person who isn't conventionally attractive that means he/she has a weird fetish.
<_<


Nah, I'd have no problem with a guy dating a dwarf height woman in real life. It is more that I find it to be a really odd thing in the Dragon Age universe because they're different species with completely different ways of thinking. It just doesn't strike me as believeable that both Alistair and Zevran would be open to a relationship with a Dwarf. 


If you're prepared to accept an import from a different fictional universe, the Discworld novels have a Dwarven version of Zevran. He may even try harder.

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AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

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Varric.

biowure plz. 

No

AresKeith plz. 


Bianca says No, along with Sten and Arishok


Love will find a way. 

Hater. 

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Eterna5 wrote...

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Eterna5 wrote...

I always found everyone hitting on my Dwarven warden to be weird. It just made me uncomfortable, like they have a small person fetish or something.

So if anyone likes a person who isn't conventionally attractive that means he/she has a weird fetish.
<_<


Nah, I'd have no problem with a guy dating a dwarf height woman in real life. It is more that I find it to be a really odd thing in the Dragon Age universe because they're different species with completely different ways of thinking. It just doesn't strike me as believeable that both Alistair and Zevran would be open to a relationship with a Dwarf. 


Oh, okay then^_^. So you're saying different LIs should have different preferences. That is something I suggested too during early developmet of DA2 although I used the examples of some characters disliking mages or the thin bodies of the elves.

I think DA is going in the opposite direction, I'm afraid (with the playersexual romances) and the closest we've got to that is Varric mentioning that he's "not into humans".

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Am1_vf wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I always found everyone hitting on my Dwarven warden to be weird. It just made me uncomfortable, like they have a small person fetish or something.

So if anyone likes a person who isn't conventionally attractive that means he/she has a weird fetish.
<_<


Nah, I'd have no problem with a guy dating a dwarf height woman in real life. It is more that I find it to be a really odd thing in the Dragon Age universe because they're different species with completely different ways of thinking. It just doesn't strike me as believeable that both Alistair and Zevran would be open to a relationship with a Dwarf. 


Oh, okay then^_^. So you're saying different LIs should have different preferences. That is something I suggested too during early developmet of DA2 although I used the examples of some characters disliking mages or the thin bodies of the elves.

I think DA is going in the opposite direction, I'm afraid (with the playersexual romances) and the closest we've got to that is Varric mentioning that he's "not into humans".


It would be quite good and humourous if romances could preferences like hair colour, if the Inquisitor is not blonde then they have no chance.

Modifié par Karlone123, 31 août 2013 - 01:14 .


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Oh, okay then^_^. So you're saying different LIs should have different preferences. That is something I suggested too during early developmet of DA2 although I used the examples of some characters disliking mages or the thin bodies of the elves.

I think DA is going in the opposite direction, I'm afraid (with the playersexual romances) and the closest we've got to that is Varric mentioning that he's "not into humans".


It would be quite good and humourous if romances could preferences like hair colour, if the Inquisitor is not blonde then they have no chance.


That would be quite superficial in the character's part, not that having shallow charaters who act like that would be a bad thing. So, why not?

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Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

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Eterna5 wrote...

Varric.

biowure plz. 

No

AresKeith plz. 


Bianca says No, along with Sten and Arishok


Love will find a way. 

Hater. 


And bianca will find a way into your heart...than through it, manually.

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Am1_vf wrote...

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Oh, okay then^_^. So you're saying different LIs should have different preferences. That is something I suggested too during early developmet of DA2 although I used the examples of some characters disliking mages or the thin bodies of the elves.

I think DA is going in the opposite direction, I'm afraid (with the playersexual romances) and the closest we've got to that is Varric mentioning that he's "not into humans".


It would be quite good and humourous if romances could preferences like hair colour, if the Inquisitor is not blonde then they have no chance.


That would be quite superficial in the character's part, not that having shallow charaters who act like that would be a bad thing. So, why not?


I think the only bad thing would be the Inqusitors' desperate attempts to change their hair colour. "No! It's meant to be blonde, not purple! Now I'll never sleep with her".

A romance under the condition of personal preference in physical appearence would be enlightening.

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Karlone123 wrote...

I think the only bad thing would be the Inqusitors' desperate attempts to change their hair colour. "No! It's meant to be blonde, not purple! Now I'll never sleep with her".

A romance under the condition of personal preference in physical appearence would be enlightening.


You know where that would lead, Dye Pack DLC.

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Yeah, why romance dwarves in fantasy games when you can romance dwarves in real life instead!


Why romance humans in fantasy games when you can romance 'em in real life?


Why not both? :D

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Narrow Margin wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

I think the only bad thing would be the Inqusitors' desperate attempts to change their hair colour. "No! It's meant to be blonde, not purple! Now I'll never sleep with her".

A romance under the condition of personal preference in physical appearence would be enlightening.


You know where that would lead, Dye Pack DLC.


"Must...do...whatever...it...takes...to sleep with Annabel!". *Purchases dye pack* "NOOOO!!! There is no strawberry blonde dye".

Modifié par Karlone123, 31 août 2013 - 01:34 .


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Karlone123 wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...
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Oh, okay then^_^. So you're saying different LIs should have different preferences. That is something I suggested too during early developmet of DA2 although I used the examples of some characters disliking mages or the thin bodies of the elves.

I think DA is going in the opposite direction, I'm afraid (with the playersexual romances) and the closest we've got to that is Varric mentioning that he's "not into humans".


It would be quite good and humourous if romances could preferences like hair colour, if the Inquisitor is not blonde then they have no chance.


That would be quite superficial in the character's part, not that having shallow charaters who act like that would be a bad thing. So, why not?


I think the only bad thing would be the Inqusitors' desperate attempts to change their hair colour. "No! It's meant to be blonde, not purple! Now I'll never sleep with her".

A romance under the condition of personal preference in physical appearence would be enlightening.


Well, if someone wants to roleplay a equally shallow and insecure Inquisitor I don't see any problem.

Modifié par Am1_vf, 31 août 2013 - 01:33 .


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ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

Yeah, why romance dwarves in fantasy games when you can romance dwarves in real life instead!


Why romance humans in fantasy games when you can romance 'em in real life?


Why not both? :D


Sounds like a special at a brothel.

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You seemed more upset than I was EJ.
I did take offense at some of the things you said.
We have the examples of ME3 and DA2 to prove Bioware doesn't always keep their promises.
Nothing personal against the Bioware staff. The game is in a pre Alpha stage and things can change.
Their promises are not set in concrete.
One writer for an online gaming mag expressed surprise that Gaider isn't enamored of the romances .
Bioware claims only a small percentage of the players even bothered with the romances which surprised me.
I had assumed most players did them or why bother putting them in the game at all ?
Regardless of our differing interpretation of what was said in the GI update, whether it be in DAI or the game after that cutting back on deemphasing or what ever you want to call it seems to be on its way and the players who like romances will have to accept the changes or look elsewhere.


I'm sorry that some of the things I said offended you. I assumed that you were one of those people who are against romance content in Bioware games and saying that it will be removed/reduced just to annoy or worry the people who enjoy that content, so I may have been too harsh. 

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I honestly expect no reasonableness to be had on this front, if history is any evidence. People want what they want, and will lament when they don't get it. Nothing wrong with that, so long as they don't start suggesting that they're entitled to romance who and what they want in the game, and that we are bad guys for actively turning off the romance switch for characters who, in their minds, should be sex-able. The idea that not every character in the game will or even should be available to them just doesn't compute, apparently.



I think people are entitled to what they want to the extent that if they don't get it, they don't have buy the game. For example perhaps there is a person out there that doesn't particularly likes DA game in general but does like the romance options. So if it comes to a point to where this person doesn't get the "romance options" that he/she wants,  they won't buy the game. 

I for example, will wait a few months after DAI comes out to purchase it just so I can make sure the game is offering me what I want. In the end DAI, like any other video game, is a product to be purchased and is driven by what the potential consumer who buys it wants. 

That being said, I know BW/EA doesn't care one bit if I buy their game or not, I'm just one person in a tiny demographic. But sooner or later if they keep making a product that doesn't give their core audiecne what it wants in DA Universe then...well...they can always make another ME game.

From what I have seen and heard about DAI, I think they will probably make many, many people happy and those who don't ultimately buy the game because it doesn't offer them what they want won't really amount to too that many anyway. 

All we can do is hope.


If having sex with pixels  is why you play games, then find a better hobby, or get out more. Also what the core audience wants is a good story and good characters, not having sex with pixels.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I always found everyone hitting on my Dwarven warden to be weird. It just made me uncomfortable, like they have a small person fetish or something.

So if anyone likes a person who isn't conventionally attractive that means he/she has a weird fetish.
<_<


Nah, I'd have no problem with a guy dating a dwarf height woman in real life. It is more that I find it to be a really odd thing in the Dragon Age universe because they're different species with completely different ways of thinking. 


Is it ever stated that different races in Thedas means different species? It's been kept vague to my knowledge, but I always got the impression that "race" in this universe was closer to different ethnicities (like pre-Age of Exploration Asians, Aborigines and Europeans), as opposed to biological species (like horses, donkeys and zebras). All still biologically people, just different outward physical features from millennia of geographic and cultural isolation.

The "different ways of thinking" are cultural, not biological. Varric and Bartrand prove this. They're brothers from the same biological stock, but the former thinks like a surfacer since he was born and raised there, while the latter thinks more like an underground dwarf since he remembers living there and can commiserate with his family on what they lost.

It just doesn't strike me as believeable that both Alistair and Zevran would be open to a relationship with a Dwarf.


Why not? They're both awesome guys who received a fair amount of discrimination and maltreatment for their heritage growing up. Alistair was ostracized for his royal bastard blood, and Zevran was enslaved and sometimes mistreated for his elven blood (he sometimes shows a little annoyance with how humans view elves). Furthermore, Zevran was taught to have a certain "open-mindedness" in who he beds since seduction was a huge part of his job, and it was (is?) a coping mechanism for dealing with his hard life. (Zevran admits that he had to "learn to take [his] pleasures where [he] can, for they do not come often.")

I think it makes sense that they would look past heritage and see a person for their individual merits, not just what society tells them they're supposed to find attractive.

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Varric cheat on Bianca?...

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This is off topic but where exactly is that gif from?

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Varric cheat on Bianca?...

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This is off topic but where exactly is that gif from?

Planet of the Apes.

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I hate to interrupt some of the delightful conversions going on here, but in regards to the statements that a majority of players don't pursue the romances, is this meaning most players actively avoid the romance, or that it's not something that they feel necessary to the gameplay?
Personally, I've always thought that the romances were one of the more unique things that Bioware has done, becoming a semi-trademark. There aren't too many action-adventure games that let you pursue interesting relationships with the major NPCs on your own terms, be they friendship or romance. I always look forward to seeing what the writers have to offer us, and I would be sad to see romances become completely irrelevant, but by no means is it a major factor in my bite of the game.
Would it be nice to see Varric as a possible LI? Sure. Do the writers owe us a debt and are required to make it so (along with giving us that sexy, sexy mailbox)? Of course not. I would rather receive a well-put together game full of complex storylines, fleshed-out history and multi-faceted non-romanceable characters than a shallow screw-fest any day. IMHO

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that it's not something that they feel necessary to the gameplay



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Hippiethecat124 wrote...

I hate to interrupt some of the delightful conversions going on here, but in regards to the statements that a majority of players don't pursue the romances, is this meaning most players actively avoid the romance, or that it's not something that they feel necessary to the gameplay?

Honestly, I don't think most players even bother talking to their companions at all. I know a few people IRL that played ME and just sped through the main plot, ignoring all side missions and all optional conversations, so I assume there were a lot of people who did that for DA too.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Hippiethecat124 wrote...

I hate to interrupt some of the delightful conversions going on here, but in regards to the statements that a majority of players don't pursue the romances, is this meaning most players actively avoid the romance, or that it's not something that they feel necessary to the gameplay?

Honestly, I don't think most players even bother talking to their companions at all. I know a few people IRL that played ME and just sped through the main plot, ignoring all side missions and all optional conversations, so I assume there were a lot of people who did that for DA too.


Whoa! Really? That's sad.

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The popularity of characters like Sigrun and Varric, for example, seem to indicate much of the gamership would be very interested in this.


Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself. ;)

According to this fandom, after all, there needs to be justification as to why a character can't be romanced... otherwise they are being unreasonably and even maliciously kept from the fans. So I'm pretty certain that if Varric is romanceable, there will be people overjoyed to hear it... and if he's not, it will be evidence of an anti-dwarf conspiracy by the racist writers.


Ha!  That's very true.  ;)

And you're absolutely right that it can be hard either way you decide on the issue.  Feelings can run very high either way, as you mention.  Thank you for weighing in on this, Mr. Gaider.

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