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[devSin]

David Gaider wrote...

So I'm pretty certain that if Varric is romanceable, there will be people overjoyed to hear it... and if he's not, it will be evidence of an anti-dwarf conspiracy by the racist writers.

Bianca is not amused at your hypothetical.

If you hear the twang, don't even bother running.

[DaringMoosejaw]

caradoc2000 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

Especially a Qunari mailbox.

Kossith Dwarven Mailbox romance confirmed with optional pony Cullen menage a trois, everything this forum has been wishing for.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I just hope the mailbox is playersexual.

Rain, sleet or snow if you get my drift.

[AresKeith]

David Gaider wrote...

WardenWade wrote...
The popularity of characters like Sigrun and Varric, for example, seem to indicate much of the gamership would be very interested in this.

Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

According to this fandom, after all, there needs to be justification as to why a character can't be romanced... otherwise they are being unreasonably and even maliciously kept from the fans. So I'm pretty certain that if Varric is romanceable, there will be people overjoyed to hear it... and if he's not, it will be evidence of an anti-dwarf conspiracy by the racist writers.

How much you wanna bet they have tinfoil hats? 

[RogueWriter3201]

David Gaider wrote...

WardenWade wrote...
The popularity of characters like Sigrun and Varric, for example, seem to indicate much of the gamership would be very interested in this.

Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

According to this fandom, after all, there needs to be justification as to why a character can't be romanced... otherwise they are being unreasonably and even maliciously kept from the fans. So I'm pretty certain that if Varric is romanceable, there will be people overjoyed to hear it... and if he's not, it will be evidence of an anti-dwarf conspiracy by the racist writers.

I can recognize that some people get...carried away with not being able to romance a particularly beloved character/party member. However, I think there is a difference between non-romances that make sense (Shale, Wynne, and, yes, even Oghren, the later of which was a character clearly designed to be the bungling drunken sad story sidekick) and non-romances that, honestly, appear to be a writer simply saying "I don't want this character to be a romance," without any real justification as to why not.

I'd equate it to "I don't want to share my toys." Best example would be Aveline in Dragon Age 2. Here was this strong, beautiful, complex woman who's life was closely tied to Hawkes' making her, above all else, a companion with whom a romance would make the most sense. And yet? You and Luke decided to give her some throwaway husband character.

And I understand that writers want the characters not to always revolve around the player, and that's fine. If we had passed on Aveline as a romance in the game *then* she went and found a husband, that would make sense. However, you built this amazing character, teased a romance, then pulled it away. I don't feel it's fair to write/design a character in that way then simply turn around and tell the player, "Nope. Can't have her/him."

If you're going to write an exceptional character/companion who's similar in age to the protagonist, isn't related to the protagonist, and has a complex or deep relationship to the protagonist then it's incredibly shortsighted not to at least allow the opportunity for a romance. They can still have their own lives, their own goals, their own choices but let us be a part of that intimately if it makes sense; don't slam the gate closed just because you think a romance would "cheepen" the character you wrote. 

[leaguer of one]

David Gaider wrote...

WardenWade wrote...
The popularity of characters like Sigrun and Varric, for example, seem to indicate much of the gamership would be very interested in this.

Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

According to this fandom, after all, there needs to be justification as to why a character can't be romanced... otherwise they are being unreasonably and even maliciously kept from the fans. So I'm pretty certain that if Varric is romanceable, there will be people overjoyed to hear it... and if he's not, it will be evidence of an anti-dwarf conspiracy by the racist writers.

Well, with the fact in DA:O we can sleep with a war hammer and Scare crows.....

[Ravensword]

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

[Steelcan]

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOUR BIGOTRY

[daveliam]

Someone in the dwarf support thread alluded to the upcoming Game Informer update having to deal with dwarves. Anyone know if that's the case or just speculating. If so, maybe we'll get to see a clip, hint, glimpse of a dwarf who's not Varric. I'd love to see what they look like outside of the really amazing character models.

On a different note, I never posted in a thread with Gaider before. I'm, like, 1 e-degree away from him now. I'm a bit of fanboy.

[Phate Phoenix]

Steelcan wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOUR BIGOTRY

Thank you, I just inhaled some Pepsi. Ow.

[Angrywolves]

Supposedly Gaider was bothered by the short dwarves having romances with taller races.
And was looking for a solution .
I've also thought the female dwarves looked young and someone ignorant of the game might mistake them for children which would create more problems for Bioware.
I doubt we'll see another dwarf party member.
Of course another way of dealing with this would be to allow romances with certain npcs but with Bioware wanting to deemphasize and cut back on romances I don't think we'll see that either.
shrugs.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

I'd gladly throw Anders, Fenris and Cullen to the fire if it meant one of my characters could romance Varric.

[AresKeith]

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

Especially with the hint of his beloved Bianca still being alive 

[Steelcan]

Phate Phoenix wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOUR BIGOTRY

Thank you, I just inhaled some Pepsi. Ow.

Thats what you get for drinking Pepsi:P

[Ravensword]

Steelcan wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOUR BIGOTRY

Ohai, Plaintiff!

[billy the squid]

Steelcan wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOUR BIGOTRY

It's his privilege, he's too God damn privileged.

[daveliam]

Angrywolves wrote...

 but with Bioware wanting to deemphasize and cut back on romances I don't think we'll see that either.
shrugs.

Hey Angry,

I've seen you reference this a few times but I'm not sure where it's from.  Do you have a link?  Or is it more of an inference based on several things?

[Cainhurst Crow]

glenboy24 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

WardenWade wrote...
The popularity of characters like Sigrun and Varric, for example, seem to indicate much of the gamership would be very interested in this.

Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

According to this fandom, after all, there needs to be justification as to why a character can't be romanced... otherwise they are being unreasonably and even maliciously kept from the fans. So I'm pretty certain that if Varric is romanceable, there will be people overjoyed to hear it... and if he's not, it will be evidence of an anti-dwarf conspiracy by the racist writers.

I can recognize that some people get...carried away with not being able to romance a particularly beloved character/party member. However, I think there is a difference between non-romances that make sense (Shale, Wynne, and, yes, even Oghren, the later of which was a character clearly designed to be the bungling drunken sad story sidekick) and non-romances that, honestly, appear to be a writer simply saying "I don't want this character to be a romance," without any real justification as to why not.

I'd equate it to "I don't want to share my toys." Best example would be Aveline in Dragon Age 2. Here was this strong, beautiful, complex woman who's life was closely tied to Hawkes' making her, above all else, a companion with whom a romance would make the most sense. And yet? You and Luke decided to give her some throwaway husband character.

And I understand that writers want the characters not to always revolve around the player, and that's fine. If we had passed on Aveline as a romance in the game *then* she went and found a husband, that would make sense. However, you built this amazing character, teased a romance, then pulled it away. I don't feel it's fair to write/design a character in that way then simply turn around and tell the player, "Nope. Can't have her/him."

If you're going to write an exceptional character/companion who's similar in age to the protagonist, isn't related to the protagonist, and has a complex or deep relationship to the protagonist then it's incredibly shortsighted not to at least allow the opportunity for a romance. They can still have their own lives, their own goals, their own choices but let us be a part of that intimately if it makes sense; don't slam the gate closed just because you think a romance would "cheepen" the character you wrote. 

What makes you think aveline is similar to hawkes age? And what makes you think she has any reason to be attracted to hawke at all?

It sounds like you're just throwing a bit of a tantrum because you couldn't get her in bed.

[Bekkael]

glenboy24 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

WardenWade wrote...
The popularity of characters like Sigrun and Varric, for example, seem to indicate much of the gamership would be very interested in this.

Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

According to this fandom, after all, there needs to be justification as to why a character can't be romanced... otherwise they are being unreasonably and even maliciously kept from the fans. So I'm pretty certain that if Varric is romanceable, there will be people overjoyed to hear it... and if he's not, it will be evidence of an anti-dwarf conspiracy by the racist writers.

I can recognize that some people get...carried away with not being able to romance a particularly beloved character/party member. However, I think there is a difference between non-romances that make sense (Shale, Wynne, and, yes, even Oghren, the later of which was a character clearly designed to be the bungling drunken sad story sidekick) and non-romances that, honestly, appear to be a writer simply saying "I don't want this character to be a romance," without any real justification as to why not.

I'd equate it to "I don't want to share my toys." Best example would be Aveline in Dragon Age 2. Here was this strong, beautiful, complex woman who's life was closely tied to Hawkes' making her, above all else, a companion with whom a romance would make the most sense. And yet? You and Luke decided to give her some throwaway husband character.

And I understand that writers want the characters not to always revolve around the player, and that's fine. If we had passed on Aveline as a romance in the game *then* she went and found a husband, that would make sense. However, you built this amazing character, teased a romance, then pulled it away. I don't feel it's fair to write/design a character in that way then simply turn around and tell the player, "Nope. Can't have her/him."

If you're going to write an exceptional character/companion who's similar in age to the protagonist, isn't related to the protagonist, and has a complex or deep relationship to the protagonist then it's incredibly shortsighted not to at least allow the opportunity for a romance. They can still have their own lives, their own goals, their own choices but let us be a part of that intimately if it makes sense; don't slam the gate closed just because you think a romance would "cheepen" the character you wrote. 

Not every complex and interesting companion should be a romance though. It's the attitude of a spoiled child to expect they can have whatever they want, just because it's appealing to them.

I thought DA2 had a very satisfying number of romances, and essentially offered something for everyone. Aveline and Varric were perfectly fine as friends, and I think I enjoyed them more because of having that contrast with the romances.

If there is one thing I would ask of the devs regarding romance, it would only be this: choose wisely.

[dreamgazer]

David Gaider wrote...

Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

(thumbs up)

Admission is the first step. 

[Steelcan]

daveliam wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

 but with Bioware wanting to deemphasize and cut back on romances I don't think we'll see that either.
shrugs.

Hey Angry,

I've seen you reference this a few times but I'm not sure where it's from.  Do you have a link?  Or is it more of an inference based on several things?

Its from a GI interview

[AresKeith]

daveliam wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

 but with Bioware wanting to deemphasize and cut back on romances I don't think we'll see that either.
shrugs.

Hey Angry,

I've seen you reference this a few times but I'm not sure where it's from.  Do you have a link?  Or is it more of an inference based on several things?

I think it was in one of the latest Gameinformer updates regarding romance, I think

[Ravensword]

billy the squid wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOUR BIGOTRY

It's his privilege, he's too God damn privileged.

I have more goddamn privelege than God Herself.