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[Am1vf]

David Gaider wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...
However, I think there is a difference between non-romances that make sense (Shale, Wynne, and, yes, even Oghren, the later of which was a character clearly designed to be the bungling drunken sad story sidekick) and non-romances that, honestly, appear to be a writer simply saying "I don't want this character to be a romance," without any real justification as to why not.

We don't need to justify "why not". Romances don't just spring magically into being unless there's a reason to prevent them from doing so-- they require a lot of content. We're only allowed to have so many, and we only want to write so many.

I get why someone might like a character and think how a romance added onto what's already there would be awesome. Suggesting, however, that we need to justify why we "kept them from you"-- for Selfish Writer Reasons, obviously-- particularly when there's far more to creating one in a game than whipping up some extra words, is exactly what I was talking about in my original post.

I honestly expect no reasonableness to be had on this front, if history is any evidence. People want what they want, and will lament when they don't get it. Nothing wrong with that, so long as they don't start suggesting that they're entitled to romance who and what they want in the game, and that we are bad guys for actively turning off the romance switch for characters who, in their minds, should be sex-able. The idea that not every character in the game will or even should be available to them just doesn't compute, apparently.

Well said.

Still, I'd like to mention that, even though I liked Aveline and I would have liked her to be romanceable, I won't be caught saying that she should have been romanceable.

I enjoyed "trying" to romance her (although my hawke didn't  poor guy) and I have no problem with Donnic. In fact I'd say that playing a Hawke friendzoned by Aveline during the Donnic related quests is my favourite part of the game.

Might be a good idea to allow players to attemp a romance with charactes such as Varric, knowing how popular they are.

Edit: in case it isn't clear I ment attemp and fail.

Modifié par Am1_vf, 30 août 2013 - 10:16 .

[llandwynwyn]

David Gaider wrote...

WardenWade wrote...
The popularity of characters like Sigrun and Varric, for example, seem to indicate much of the gamership would be very interested in this.

Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

Ha! This so f. true.

[KennethAFTopp]

David Gaider wrote...
Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

ooooh Can we?!
 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Ravensword wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I hope Varric isn't romanceable. Not everything w/ a goddamn pulse needs to be boneable.

HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOUR BIGOTRY

It's his privilege, he's too God damn privileged.

I have more goddamn privelege than God Herself.

Needs moar strongly characterized heroic privelege.

She's hardly wearing any clothes and is an all-powerful deity.

Still not enough heroism.

Make sure she blindly spams the upper dialogue option and have her romance Leliana and the Blueberry.
Then we'll be good to go.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Is Flemeth an LI yet? I hear she is a real dragon in bed. Enough of the gaming industry's bias against old people, make her an LI!

[Ravensword]

KennethAFTopp wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
Going by the forums, "much of the gamership" would be interested in romancing a mailbox, if the opportunity presented itself.

ooooh Can we?!
 

Look at the CHARACTERIZATION on that mailbox.

[Cainhurst Crow]

"Attempt" should be the key word. Varric is taken, he's been taken this whole time, and having him forget that would seem like a betrayal of the character. It kinda reminds me of the thane romance in mass effect and why I always felt dirty trying to do it. I feel like I'm manipulating thane and stepping on his wife's grave when I romance him. I just don't like that feeling, feels like stealing, but worse.

[Ravensword]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Is Flemeth an LI yet? I hear she is a real dragon in bed. Enough of the gaming industry's bias against old people, make her an LI!

Some people like older women.

[Bekkael]

I daresay this thread is rapidly headed for the lock.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

I'd love a dwarf LI

Varric for my rogue lady

[Ravensword]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

I'd love a dwarf LI

Varric for my rogue lady

My god, woman! Does your lust know no bounds!?

[AresKeith]

Bekkael wrote...

I daresay this thread is rapidly headed for the lock.

Gaider did it 

[Ravensword]

LindsayLohan wrote...

Can I romance the credits? They are some sexy sounding names there.

Slab Bulkhead
Fridge Largemeat
Punt Speedchunk
Butch Deadlift
Bold Bigflank
Splint Chesthair
Flint Ironstag
Bolt Vanderhuge
Thick McRunfast
Blast Hardcheese
Buff Drinklots
Crunch Slamchest
Fist Rockbone
Stump Beefknob
Smash Lampjaw
Punch Rockgroin
Buck Plankchest
Stump Junkman
Dirk Hardpec
Rip Steakface
Slate Slabrock
Crud Bonemeal
Brick Hardmeat
Rip Slagcheek
Punch Sideiron
Gristle McThornbody
Slate Fistcrunch
Buff Hardback
Blast Thickneck
Crunch Buttsteak
Slab Squatthrust
Lump Beefbroth
Touch Rustrod
Beef Blastbody
Big McLargehuge
Smoke Manmuscle
Beat Punchmeat
Hack Blowfist
Roll Fizzlebeef
Bob Johnson

Modifié par Ravensword, 30 août 2013 - 10:23 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Oh boy, I like where this thread is going.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 30 août 2013 - 10:23 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

LindsayLohan wrote...

In all seriousness I would love a scene where I do cocaine off flemeth's chest. It would be so cash

That only happens after you find the power glove.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Only if the desire demon can join in.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Only if the desire demon can join in.

Of course!

It's part of the EveryoneXEveryone else secret ending.

[Angrywolves]

Merrill is irrelevant .
I THOUGHT this thread was about dwarf Li's.
Seems to have gotten off track. rolls eyes.

[AutumnWitch]

David Gaider wrote...
I honestly expect no reasonableness to be had on this front, if history is any evidence. People want what they want, and will lament when they don't get it. Nothing wrong with that, so long as they don't start suggesting that they're entitled to romance who and what they want in the game, and that we are bad guys for actively turning off the romance switch for characters who, in their minds, should be sex-able. The idea that not every character in the game will or even should be available to them just doesn't compute, apparently.

I think people are entitled to what they want to the extent that if they don't get it, they don't have buy the game. For example perhaps there is a person out there that doesn't particularly likes DA game in general but does like the romance options. So if it comes to a point to where this person doesn't get the "romance options" that he/she wants,  they won't buy the game. 

I for example, will wait a few months after DAI comes out to purchase it just so I can make sure the game is offering me what I want. In the end DAI, like any other video game, is a product to be purchased and is driven by what the potential consumer who buys it wants. 

That being said, I know BW/EA doesn't care one bit if I buy their game or not, I'm just one person in a tiny demographic. But sooner or later if they keep making a product that doesn't give their core audiecne what it wants in DA Universe then...well...they can always make another ME game.

From what I have seen and heard about DAI, I think they will probably make many, many people happy and those who don't ultimately buy the game because it doesn't offer them what they want won't really amount to too that many anyway. 

All we can do is hope.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

LindsayLohan wrote...

Alright! At what time does the mailbox join in though? Are the rules for this certain type of stuff?

No tongue, Mailbox gets to be on top, and you don't get to talk.

Mailbox joins in after the Pride Demon tires out.

[Ravensword]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

LindsayLohan wrote...

Alright! At what time does the mailbox join in though? Are the rules for this certain type of stuff?

No tongue, Mailbox gets to be on top, and you don't get to talk.

Mailbox joins in after the Pride Demon tires out.

If you're able to roll a six, a sloth demon joins.