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[Cainhurst Crow]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...
There role doesn't matter to me their qunari thats reason enough.

I agree.

They should be struck down...

In the name of the one true god, the Maker, and his bride Andraste.

As for you mage, there are some big bad Templar men that want to talk to you...

Templars are walking meat sacks in armor if they ever fought a mage that could fight like a rogue with up to date hand to hand combat and dual wield training they will loose every time.

Just keep telling yourself that, little missy.

You honestly think a templar could take a battle mage? a mage trained with the same possible combat techniques they learned plus being able to use magic? lol

Templat annuls magic, now he's just some guy with a sword. Templar has elite training spanning years in martial combat and a single spell type, uses superior fighting techniques to disarm and slay opponent, whose needed to focus on balancing training between spell casting, increasing their mana, sword weilding, and stamina.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 31 août 2013 - 05:19 .

[n7stormrunner]

... anyone else want to just join a dragon cult and burn anyone who doesn't also join, or is just me?

[Texhnolyze101]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...
There role doesn't matter to me their qunari thats reason enough.

I agree.

They should be struck down...

In the name of the one true god, the Maker, and his bride Andraste.

As for you mage, there are some big bad Templar men that want to talk to you...

Templars are walking meat sacks in armor if they ever fought a mage that could fight like a rogue with up to date hand to hand combat and dual wield training they will loose every time.

Just keep telling yourself that, little missy.

You honestly think a templar could take a battle mage? a mage trained with the same possible combat techniques they learned plus being able to use magic? lol

Templat annuls magic, now he's just some guy with a sword. Templar has elite training spanning years in martial combat and a single spell type, uses superior fighting techniques to disarm and slay opponent, whose needed to focus on balancing training between spell casting, increasing their mana, sword weilding, and stamina.

You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.

[In Exile]

n7stormrunner wrote...

... anyone else want to just join a dragon cult and burn anyone who doesn't also join, or is just me?

And now we've covered everyone's murder and enslaving fantasy. 

[Texhnolyze101]

n7stormrunner wrote...

... anyone else want to just join a dragon cult and burn anyone who doesn't also join, or is just me?

I don't like dragon cults.

[Cainhurst Crow]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The world prospered under the rule of mages. Mages are the superior race after all it is only natural that the strong should rule the weak and when that happens everyone benefits from it.

The mundane ruin their own lives in a hopeless pursuit of purpose, trying to gain power, or influence and all you achieve is chaos. The mundane weren't made to be the engineers they were made to the cogs to placed where their better determined was their place and purpose.

Deep down inside all mundane know that it is their natural place to be ruled. You thirst for subjugation, for direction, for serve. You've wasted your lives serving false gods and false prophets. There is but one true god and that god is magic and we are her instrument on this world. Kneel before your betters and we will lead you into a better world free of petty bickering and delusions of freewill.

What blasphemy is this?

Remind me, which race has inherit resistance to magic and really controls the lyrium trade?

You misinterpret me my dear short friend. True the Mages are the directors of the world but the dwarves are the highest of the mundane races for your kind gather the lyrium and for the enchantments that we use. The dwarves are the builders of our world and are appreciated for their contribution.

It is only when mages and dwarves work together that both sides are at their strongest. We build the clock, you build the tower together we make wonders. I apologies if you thought I counted the dwarves among the lesser your kind were made without magic because of your noble purpose. It is the humans, elves, and kossith mundane that are the cogs for unlike the mages and dwarves they have no knowledge of their place, they don't know that they are merely the tools that their better would use to make everyone stronger.

Ya, and they can't make you more Juggernaut Golems like the ones in Minrathous.

Hmmm.... y'know what? I'll throw my support for Tevinter-Orzammar Alliance 2.0.

Mage Power, Dwarf Steel!

Yes! Mages shall rule the surface, dwarves will rule the deep and together peace, order, and prosperity will hold sway over the world again.

Sound good to me.

That is, until someone mentions mundane. Than we'll see how long the dwarves cooperate with a filthy surfacer thinking they're superior to the dwarfs and spitting all over the paragons and ancestors like that.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...



You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.

Mages are wonderfully squishy.

[Cainhurst Crow]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...
There role doesn't matter to me their qunari thats reason enough.

I agree.

They should be struck down...

In the name of the one true god, the Maker, and his bride Andraste.

As for you mage, there are some big bad Templar men that want to talk to you...

Templars are walking meat sacks in armor if they ever fought a mage that could fight like a rogue with up to date hand to hand combat and dual wield training they will loose every time.

Just keep telling yourself that, little missy.

You honestly think a templar could take a battle mage? a mage trained with the same possible combat techniques they learned plus being able to use magic? lol

Templat annuls magic, now he's just some guy with a sword. Templar has elite training spanning years in martial combat and a single spell type, uses superior fighting techniques to disarm and slay opponent, whose needed to focus on balancing training between spell casting, increasing their mana, sword weilding, and stamina.

You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.

i've only seen 1, and that was hawke. And in his fight, he needed to resort to magic because he was loosing and on the defensive most of the fight. If the arishok could neutralize magic the same way a templar could, well, guess whose in deep **** now?

[dragonflight288]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

I'm right Rylock kept hunting Anders down inspite of the Warden invoked the Right of Conscription on Anders right in front of King Alistair (Which he given the OK status) and conscript him as a Grey Warden, placing him outside the Templars' jurisdiction. Many templars like her will break the law if things don't go their way, and thats exactly what she did. Templars tend to have that above the law attitude. Just look at Rylock, Cullen and the rest of the currupted Templars.

And yes Anders was still being down by the Templars in DA2. Didn't your Hawke get approched by angry Ferelden refuees right after you spoken to the woman about the wereabouts of Anders? I always allowed Carver to speak to end things peacefully.

Elthina promoting peace? Yeah and tell me the story about the Darkspawn finally wants to become friends with the Grey Wardens. Yeah I saw how she kept on allowing Meredith to become a Tyrant.

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Codex_entry:_History_of_Kirkwall:_Chapter_4

Knight-Commander Guylian's only written comment was in a letter to Divine Beatrix III: "It is not our place to interfere in political affairs. We are here to safeguard the city against magic, not against itself." The Divine, as a friend to the emperor, clearly had other ideas.

Elthina had allowed Meredith to interfere in politcal affairs when she refused to allow a new viscount after 3 years.

If this was Elthina's way to promote peace then I don't know what is.

Please show your in-game evidence of the Templars harassing Anders after Awakening and before DA ][ (resulting in his fusion with Justice--YOU said that Anders had "no reason" to allow himself to be possessed outside of Templar influence).


What does Meredith's involvement in political affairs have to do with tyranny towards mages? It isn't causation. I repeat: the only "tyranny" Meredith engaged in was invoking the Rite of Annulment, and we'll never know if Elthina would have stopped it or not. I suspect she would have.

What I'm about to show you isn't in-game evidence, but it is a short-story written by Jennifer Hepler that takes place between Awakening and DA2, and is considered Canon.

http://lvlt.bioware....ries/anders.pdf

[n7stormrunner]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

n7stormrunner wrote...

... anyone else want to just join a dragon cult and burn anyone who doesn't also join, or is just me?

I don't like dragon cults.

why?

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The world prospered under the rule of mages. Mages are the superior race after all it is only natural that the strong should rule the weak and when that happens everyone benefits from it.

The mundane ruin their own lives in a hopeless pursuit of purpose, trying to gain power, or influence and all you achieve is chaos. The mundane weren't made to be the engineers they were made to the cogs to placed where their better determined was their place and purpose.

Deep down inside all mundane know that it is their natural place to be ruled. You thirst for subjugation, for direction, for serve. You've wasted your lives serving false gods and false prophets. There is but one true god and that god is magic and we are her instrument on this world. Kneel before your betters and we will lead you into a better world free of petty bickering and delusions of freewill.

What blasphemy is this?

Remind me, which race has inherit resistance to magic and really controls the lyrium trade?

You misinterpret me my dear short friend. True the Mages are the directors of the world but the dwarves are the highest of the mundane races for your kind gather the lyrium and for the enchantments that we use. The dwarves are the builders of our world and are appreciated for their contribution.

It is only when mages and dwarves work together that both sides are at their strongest. We build the clock, you build the tower together we make wonders. I apologies if you thought I counted the dwarves among the lesser your kind were made without magic because of your noble purpose. It is the humans, elves, and kossith mundane that are the cogs for unlike the mages and dwarves they have no knowledge of their place, they don't know that they are merely the tools that their better would use to make everyone stronger.

Ya, and they can't make you more Juggernaut Golems like the ones in Minrathous.

Hmmm.... y'know what? I'll throw my support for Tevinter-Orzammar Alliance 2.0.

Mage Power, Dwarf Steel!

Yes! Mages shall rule the surface, dwarves will rule the deep and together peace, order, and prosperity will hold sway over the world again.

Sound good to me.

That is, until someone mentions mundane. Than we'll see how long the dwarves cooperate with a filthy surfacer thinking they're superior to the dwarfs and spitting all over the paragons and ancestors like that.

On the contrary the Tevinter and the dwarves have always had a good relationship ever since the beginning. The Tevinter even built the dwarves and underground embassy where both parties can talk so the dwarves don't have to go on the surface and lose their caste.

So a mage/dwarven ruled world would be a very stable and secure one.  

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

So clearly the best option is to gut people and hang them in the streets...

To save the world one must kill a lot of innocent people my friend

*sips drink*

Shh! We're saving that for the Ramses operation.

There will be explosions and anti-heroic BSODs and everything!

[Texhnolyze101]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...



You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.

Mages are wonderfully squishy.

That's the same thing the imperial empire thought about the thalmor in TES...that thought process didn't work out so well for them.

[Cainhurst Crow]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The world prospered under the rule of mages. Mages are the superior race after all it is only natural that the strong should rule the weak and when that happens everyone benefits from it.

The mundane ruin their own lives in a hopeless pursuit of purpose, trying to gain power, or influence and all you achieve is chaos. The mundane weren't made to be the engineers they were made to the cogs to placed where their better determined was their place and purpose.

Deep down inside all mundane know that it is their natural place to be ruled. You thirst for subjugation, for direction, for serve. You've wasted your lives serving false gods and false prophets. There is but one true god and that god is magic and we are her instrument on this world. Kneel before your betters and we will lead you into a better world free of petty bickering and delusions of freewill.

What blasphemy is this?

Remind me, which race has inherit resistance to magic and really controls the lyrium trade?

You misinterpret me my dear short friend. True the Mages are the directors of the world but the dwarves are the highest of the mundane races for your kind gather the lyrium and for the enchantments that we use. The dwarves are the builders of our world and are appreciated for their contribution.

It is only when mages and dwarves work together that both sides are at their strongest. We build the clock, you build the tower together we make wonders. I apologies if you thought I counted the dwarves among the lesser your kind were made without magic because of your noble purpose. It is the humans, elves, and kossith mundane that are the cogs for unlike the mages and dwarves they have no knowledge of their place, they don't know that they are merely the tools that their better would use to make everyone stronger.

Ya, and they can't make you more Juggernaut Golems like the ones in Minrathous.

Hmmm.... y'know what? I'll throw my support for Tevinter-Orzammar Alliance 2.0.

Mage Power, Dwarf Steel!

Yes! Mages shall rule the surface, dwarves will rule the deep and together peace, order, and prosperity will hold sway over the world again.

Sound good to me.

That is, until someone mentions mundane. Than we'll see how long the dwarves cooperate with a filthy surfacer thinking they're superior to the dwarfs and spitting all over the paragons and ancestors like that.

On the contrary the Tevinter and the dwarves have always had a good relationship ever since the beginning. The Tevinter even built the dwarves and underground embassy where both parties can talk so the dwarves don't have to go on the surface and lose their caste.

So a mage/dwarven ruled world would be a very stable and secure one.  

Their relationship has always been one of simple economic gain. In truth, I doubt either side actually cares about the other, if that were the case dwarves would be helping to fight qunari and mages would be aiding in clearing the deep roads. In truth, both sides tolerate eachother at best because one has massive access to lyrium, and the other has an insatiable demand for it.

[MisterJB]

I love how the nation that was fighting rebellions in the Anderfels and Rivain even before the Bligths; that demolished Arlathan; that fought a Civil War for over half a century; and I'm not referring to Andraste; that started the Bligths; that has occuppied more foreign territory than any other; the only nation unwilling to sign an armistice with the Qunari is being hailed as some harbinger of peace.
And, of course, the answer will be the usual double standard: when normals start wars, they're violent barbarians but when mages do, they're creating unity.

I'd be questioning the worth of mankind if I didn't know he was just trolling.

[MisterJB]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...



You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.

Mages are wonderfully squishy.

That's the same thing the imperial empire thought about the thalmor in TES...that thought process didn't work out so well for them.

...Are you seriously going to defend the Thalmor? I'm pretty sure they were not written to be defensible.
Kind of like Tevinter, actually.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...



That's the same thing the imperial empire thought about the thalmor in TES...that thought process didn't work out so well for them.

Different universes Enchantbot01.

Now you really should get to work on those runes, don't want to to badly on your first day do you?

[Texhnolyze101]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The world prospered under the rule of mages. Mages are the superior race after all it is only natural that the strong should rule the weak and when that happens everyone benefits from it.

The mundane ruin their own lives in a hopeless pursuit of purpose, trying to gain power, or influence and all you achieve is chaos. The mundane weren't made to be the engineers they were made to the cogs to placed where their better determined was their place and purpose.

Deep down inside all mundane know that it is their natural place to be ruled. You thirst for subjugation, for direction, for serve. You've wasted your lives serving false gods and false prophets. There is but one true god and that god is magic and we are her instrument on this world. Kneel before your betters and we will lead you into a better world free of petty bickering and delusions of freewill.

What blasphemy is this?

Remind me, which race has inherit resistance to magic and really controls the lyrium trade?

You misinterpret me my dear short friend. True the Mages are the directors of the world but the dwarves are the highest of the mundane races for your kind gather the lyrium and for the enchantments that we use. The dwarves are the builders of our world and are appreciated for their contribution.

It is only when mages and dwarves work together that both sides are at their strongest. We build the clock, you build the tower together we make wonders. I apologies if you thought I counted the dwarves among the lesser your kind were made without magic because of your noble purpose. It is the humans, elves, and kossith mundane that are the cogs for unlike the mages and dwarves they have no knowledge of their place, they don't know that they are merely the tools that their better would use to make everyone stronger.

Ya, and they can't make you more Juggernaut Golems like the ones in Minrathous.

Hmmm.... y'know what? I'll throw my support for Tevinter-Orzammar Alliance 2.0.

Mage Power, Dwarf Steel!

Yes! Mages shall rule the surface, dwarves will rule the deep and together peace, order, and prosperity will hold sway over the world again.

Sound good to me.

That is, until someone mentions mundane. Than we'll see how long the dwarves cooperate with a filthy surfacer thinking they're superior to the dwarfs and spitting all over the paragons and ancestors like that.

On the contrary the Tevinter and the dwarves have always had a good relationship ever since the beginning. The Tevinter even built the dwarves and underground embassy where both parties can talk so the dwarves don't have to go on the surface and lose their caste.

So a mage/dwarven ruled world would be a very stable and secure one.  

Their relationship has always been one of simple economic gain. In truth, I doubt either side actually cares about the other, if that were the case dwarves would be helping to fight qunari and mages would be aiding in clearing the deep roads. In truth, both sides tolerate eachother at best because one has massive access to lyrium, and the other has an insatiable demand for it.

And should the dwarves stop giving the chantry lyrium...i couldn't POSSIBLY think of what would happen to templars who need it to fight mages

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 31 août 2013 - 05:33 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...



You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.

Mages are wonderfully squishy.

That's the same thing the imperial empire thought about the thalmor in TES...that thought process didn't work out so well for them.

You cannot use an entirely different universe in order to argue facts about this one. That violates inter-reality bylaw 478.

[Daerog]

Ya. But in T-O2, elf mages will belong. Cooperation will occur both economically and militarily. As for all dissenters, why traquilize them when you can just turn them into golems?

[AresKeith]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

And should the dwarves stop giving the chantry lyrium...i couldn't POSSIBLY of think what would happen to templars who need it to fight mages

And why would the Dwarves stop doing that when they make a profit from it

[Cainhurst Crow]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The world prospered under the rule of mages. Mages are the superior race after all it is only natural that the strong should rule the weak and when that happens everyone benefits from it.

The mundane ruin their own lives in a hopeless pursuit of purpose, trying to gain power, or influence and all you achieve is chaos. The mundane weren't made to be the engineers they were made to the cogs to placed where their better determined was their place and purpose.

Deep down inside all mundane know that it is their natural place to be ruled. You thirst for subjugation, for direction, for serve. You've wasted your lives serving false gods and false prophets. There is but one true god and that god is magic and we are her instrument on this world. Kneel before your betters and we will lead you into a better world free of petty bickering and delusions of freewill.

What blasphemy is this?

Remind me, which race has inherit resistance to magic and really controls the lyrium trade?

You misinterpret me my dear short friend. True the Mages are the directors of the world but the dwarves are the highest of the mundane races for your kind gather the lyrium and for the enchantments that we use. The dwarves are the builders of our world and are appreciated for their contribution.

It is only when mages and dwarves work together that both sides are at their strongest. We build the clock, you build the tower together we make wonders. I apologies if you thought I counted the dwarves among the lesser your kind were made without magic because of your noble purpose. It is the humans, elves, and kossith mundane that are the cogs for unlike the mages and dwarves they have no knowledge of their place, they don't know that they are merely the tools that their better would use to make everyone stronger.

Ya, and they can't make you more Juggernaut Golems like the ones in Minrathous.

Hmmm.... y'know what? I'll throw my support for Tevinter-Orzammar Alliance 2.0.

Mage Power, Dwarf Steel!

Yes! Mages shall rule the surface, dwarves will rule the deep and together peace, order, and prosperity will hold sway over the world again.

Sound good to me.

That is, until someone mentions mundane. Than we'll see how long the dwarves cooperate with a filthy surfacer thinking they're superior to the dwarfs and spitting all over the paragons and ancestors like that.

On the contrary the Tevinter and the dwarves have always had a good relationship ever since the beginning. The Tevinter even built the dwarves and underground embassy where both parties can talk so the dwarves don't have to go on the surface and lose their caste.

So a mage/dwarven ruled world would be a very stable and secure one.  

Their relationship has always been one of simple economic gain. In truth, I doubt either side actually cares about the other, if that were the case dwarves would be helping to fight qunari and mages would be aiding in clearing the deep roads. In truth, both sides tolerate eachother at best because one has massive access to lyrium, and the other has an insatiable demand for it.

And should the dwarves stop giving the chantry lyrium...i couldn't POSSIBLY of think what would happen to templars who need it to fight mages

I'd be more concerned with the mages, who have lost access to all their precious lyrium potions.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
Shh! We're saving that for the Ramses operation.

There will be explosions and anti-heroic BSODs and everything!

I can stay quiet no more.

*throws shirt off*

Never compromise even in the face of armageddon?