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Building a pyramid that's gonna make giza's look like a sandcastle.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

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The world prospered under the rule of mages. Mages are the superior race after all it is only natural that the strong should rule the weak and when that happens everyone benefits from it.

The mundane ruin their own lives in a hopeless pursuit of purpose, trying to gain power, or influence and all you achieve is chaos. The mundane weren't made to be the engineers they were made to the cogs to placed where their better determined was their place and purpose.

Deep down inside all mundane know that it is their natural place to be ruled. You thirst for subjugation, for direction, for serve. You've wasted your lives serving false gods and false prophets. There is but one true god and that god is magic and we are her instrument on this world. Kneel before your betters and we will lead you into a better world free of petty bickering and delusions of freewill.



What blasphemy is this?

Remind me, which race has inherit resistance to magic and really controls the lyrium trade?


You misinterpret me my dear short friend. True the Mages are the directors of the world but the dwarves are the highest of the mundane races for your kind gather the lyrium and for the enchantments that we use. The dwarves are the builders of our world and are appreciated for their contribution.

It is only when mages and dwarves work together that both sides are at their strongest. We build the clock, you build the tower together we make wonders. I apologies if you thought I counted the dwarves among the lesser your kind were made without magic because of your noble purpose. It is the humans, elves, and kossith mundane that are the cogs for unlike the mages and dwarves they have no knowledge of their place, they don't know that they are merely the tools that their better would use to make everyone stronger. Image IPB


Ya, and they can't make you more Juggernaut Golems like the ones in Minrathous.

Hmmm.... y'know what? I'll throw my support for Tevinter-Orzammar Alliance 2.0.

Mage Power, Dwarf Steel!


Yes! Mages shall rule the surface, dwarves will rule the deep and together peace, order, and prosperity will hold sway over the world again.

Sound good to me.


That is, until someone mentions mundane. Than we'll see how long the dwarves cooperate with a filthy surfacer thinking they're superior to the dwarfs and spitting all over the paragons and ancestors like that.


On the contrary the Tevinter and the dwarves have always had a good relationship ever since the beginning. The Tevinter even built the dwarves and underground embassy where both parties can talk so the dwarves don't have to go on the surface and lose their caste.

So a mage/dwarven ruled world would be a very stable and secure one.  


Their relationship has always been one of simple economic gain. In truth, I doubt either side actually cares about the other, if that were the case dwarves would be helping to fight qunari and mages would be aiding in clearing the deep roads. In truth, both sides tolerate eachother at best because one has massive access to lyrium, and the other has an insatiable demand for it.




The only reason they don't aid one another with their plights is because the Dwarves are constantly threatened by the darkspawn while the Tevinter are in a constant war with the Qunari. Neither can afford to divert their attention. However I'm sure that the Tevinter has no problems giving the dwarves slaves that they can make into more golems. Tevinter is rich in slaves.

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In Exile wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The world prospered under the rule of mages. Mages are the superior race after all it is only natural that the strong should rule the weak and when that happens everyone benefits from it.


That era of peace and prosperity mages brought about with Arlathan was just phenomenal. 


There was also some stupidity involving sacrificing hundreds of slaves and using two thirds of the Imperium's lyrium supply that didn't end too good either.

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Are we using myths as evidence for mage superiority now?

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
The only reason they don't aid one another with their plights is because the Dwarves are constantly threatened by the darkspawn while the Tevinter are in a constant war with the Qunari. Neither can afford to divert their attention. However I'm sure that the Tevinter has no problems giving the dwarves slaves that they can make into more golems. Tevinter is rich in slaves.


This thread is funny and the mods don't like pyramids, so I've reduced it.  Let the thread live and keep the giggles coming!

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

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You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.


Mages are wonderfully squishy.




That's the same thing the imperial empire thought about the thalmor in TES...that thought process didn't work out so well for them.


You cannot use an entirely different universe in order to argue facts about this one. That violates inter-reality bylaw 478.


The fact remains that if a mage in armor with CQC training with sword and shield or dual wielding plus the use of magic can still kill a templar like any ordinary person can. Just because they can nullify magic doesn't make them better at fighting someone else with equal CQC skills and the only reason mages are squishy in DA is because Bioware is using the mage/warrior/rogue archetype which IMO is limiting.

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
The only reason they don't aid one another with their plights is because the Dwarves are constantly threatened by the darkspawn while the Tevinter are in a constant war with the Qunari. Neither can afford to divert their attention.

The darkspawn have been around for over a thousand years. The qunari, 300.
What has Tevinter been doing in the meantime? Other than invading the Free Marches, Rivain and the Anderfels and being beaten back?

However I'm sure that the Tevinter has no problems giving the dwarves slaves that they can make into more golems. Tevinter is rich in slaves.

More of the mages "wise ruling".

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

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Their relationship has always been one of simple economic gain. In truth, I doubt either side actually cares about the other, if that were the case dwarves would be helping to fight qunari and mages would be aiding in clearing the deep roads. In truth, both sides tolerate eachother at best because one has massive access to lyrium, and the other has an insatiable demand for it.




The only reason they don't aid one another with their plights is because the Dwarves are constantly threatened by the darkspawn while the Tevinter are in a constant war with the Qunari. Neither can afford to divert their attention. However I'm sure that the Tevinter has no problems giving the dwarves slaves that they can make into more golems. Tevinter is rich in slaves.


Yeah that totally doesn't answer what stopped them from ages ancient to steel from helping out. They probably did what they did back during the second blight, and told everyone to **** off and that they wouldn't help fight the blight.

The same blight caused from the darkspawn they created.

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Having a bad day? Displeased with your overlords? Considering hopeless rebellion? Have no fear, the solution to your problems is here! Join the Golem Legion! Power and obedience can be yours!

Be a golem today!

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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Having a bad day? Displeased with your overlords? Considering hopeless rebellion? Have no fear, the solution to your problems is here! Join the Golem Legion! Power and obedience can be yours!

Be a golem today!


Oh dear god.

DA golems = Bioshock infinite handymen.

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I'm guessing we'll have the option to either work with or against the white divine, though what impact that has on the state of the chantry going forward will probably be less significant than actual game content leads you to believe.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Their relationship has always been one of simple economic gain. In truth, I doubt either side actually cares about the other, if that were the case dwarves would be helping to fight qunari and mages would be aiding in clearing the deep roads. In truth, both sides tolerate eachother at best because one has massive access to lyrium, and the other has an insatiable demand for it.




The only reason they don't aid one another with their plights is because the Dwarves are constantly threatened by the darkspawn while the Tevinter are in a constant war with the Qunari. Neither can afford to divert their attention. However I'm sure that the Tevinter has no problems giving the dwarves slaves that they can make into more golems. Tevinter is rich in slaves.


Yeah that totally doesn't answer what stopped them from ages ancient to steel from helping out. They probably did what they did back during the second blight, and told everyone to **** off and that they wouldn't help fight the blight.

The same blight caused from the darkspawn they created.


I agree with what they did during the second blight but they should have helped people afterwards and try to play nice with everyone else.

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MisterJB wrote...

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The only reason they don't aid one another with their plights is because the Dwarves are constantly threatened by the darkspawn while the Tevinter are in a constant war with the Qunari. Neither can afford to divert their attention.

The darkspawn have been around for over a thousand years. The qunari, 300.
What has Tevinter been doing in the meantime? Other than invading the Free Marches, Rivain and the Anderfels and being beaten back?

However I'm sure that the Tevinter has no problems giving the dwarves slaves that they can make into more golems. Tevinter is rich in slaves.

More of the mages "wise ruling".

We don't know how much of the deep roads the dwarves in Tevinter have vs the dwarves in Ferelden. Its very possibly Tevinter has been helping them. If nothing less as a point of mutual benefit if the dwarves have more access to the deep roads that means more lyrium veins. I wouldn't be surprised if the dwarven kingdom in Tevinter isn't the size of an underground country.

Yes it is wise ruling. Mundanes being turned into immortal warriors that can help defend Dwarven and Tevinter interests. 

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I'll be a golem only if it is anatomically correct.

Though I suppose one could just down the requires mods from the nexus from that.

Carry on.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...



You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.


Mages are wonderfully squishy.




That's the same thing the imperial empire thought about the thalmor in TES...that thought process didn't work out so well for them.


You cannot use an entirely different universe in order to argue facts about this one. That violates inter-reality bylaw 478.


The fact remains that if a mage in armor with CQC training with sword and shield or dual wielding plus the use of magic can still kill a templar like any ordinary person can. Just because they can nullify magic doesn't make them better at fighting someone else with equal CQC skills and the only reason mages are squishy in DA is because Bioware is using the mage/warrior/rogue archetype which IMO is limiting.


You are gradually making me pro-templar. 

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Remember the basics of CQC snak-- I mean inquistor.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Their relationship has always been one of simple economic gain. In truth, I doubt either side actually cares about the other, if that were the case dwarves would be helping to fight qunari and mages would be aiding in clearing the deep roads. In truth, both sides tolerate eachother at best because one has massive access to lyrium, and the other has an insatiable demand for it.




The only reason they don't aid one another with their plights is because the Dwarves are constantly threatened by the darkspawn while the Tevinter are in a constant war with the Qunari. Neither can afford to divert their attention. However I'm sure that the Tevinter has no problems giving the dwarves slaves that they can make into more golems. Tevinter is rich in slaves.


Yeah that totally doesn't answer what stopped them from ages ancient to steel from helping out. They probably did what they did back during the second blight, and told everyone to **** off and that they wouldn't help fight the blight.

The same blight caused from the darkspawn they created.


I agree with what they did during the second blight but they should have helped people afterwards and try to play nice with everyone else.


They should have, but they didn't, because the imperium has always been run by complete and total ****s. It's a proud tevinter tradition to elect the douchiest, most inconsiderate jerk to become the archon and to man the magesterium.

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MisterJB wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
The only reason they don't aid one another with their plights is because the Dwarves are constantly threatened by the darkspawn while the Tevinter are in a constant war with the Qunari. Neither can afford to divert their attention.

The darkspawn have been around for over a thousand years. The qunari, 300.
What has Tevinter been doing in the meantime? Other than invading the Free Marches, Rivain and the Anderfels and being beaten back?

However I'm sure that the Tevinter has no problems giving the dwarves slaves that they can make into more golems. Tevinter is rich in slaves.

More of the mages "wise ruling".


TI was dealing with darkspawn and then Andraste. Couldnt do much after that. But TI is different now. It found religion to justify mage rule. Dwarves are justified by nature. This is the dawn for a new age. Join us. We have great dental.

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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Having a bad day? Displeased with your overlords? Considering hopeless rebellion? Have no fear, the solution to your problems is here! Join the Golem Legion! Power and obedience can be yours!

Be a golem today!


Ha! Image IPB

I like you! In all seriousness though turning a bunch of mundanes into immortal warriors to serve the dwarves and Tevinter against their mutual enemies is the best thing that could be done. There's a reason why Tevinter and the dwarven kingdom under Tevinter are still around after all these millennia its because their smart and they know how to utilize their resources.

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ultimatekotorfan wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...



You act as if there aren't apostates who train in CQC specifically to deal with templars when their magic is nullified because at the end of the day templars are men/women in armor nothing more and being stabbed will kill them.


Mages are wonderfully squishy.




That's the same thing the imperial empire thought about the thalmor in TES...that thought process didn't work out so well for them.


You cannot use an entirely different universe in order to argue facts about this one. That violates inter-reality bylaw 478.


The fact remains that if a mage in armor with CQC training with sword and shield or dual wielding plus the use of magic can still kill a templar like any ordinary person can. Just because they can nullify magic doesn't make them better at fighting someone else with equal CQC skills and the only reason mages are squishy in DA is because Bioware is using the mage/warrior/rogue archetype which IMO is limiting.


You are gradually making me pro-templar. 

If your so easily capable of switching sides then you were never pro-mage to begin with.

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Something I always find funny is how adamant people are when they side with the templars and mages.

Especially when the conflict is so badly written and failing so hard at being "grey" that any sane person won't take it so seriously.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

If your so easily capable of switching sides then you were never pro-mage to begin with.


It could be the thoughts of what would happen if people like you gained the type of power mages have.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

If your so easily capable of switching sides then you were never pro-mage to begin with.


Or it's the fact that your making people ashamed to be "pro-mage" because of how your acting

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ScarMK wrote...

It could be the thoughts of what would happen if people like you gained the type of power mages have.


Something erotic I assume?

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AresKeith wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

If your so easily capable of switching sides then you were never pro-mage to begin with.


Or it's the fact that your making people ashamed to be "pro-mage" because of how your acting


Enchantbot01 is managing to single-handedly discredit the pro-mage platform.

It's beautiful.