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[Mavqt]

In Exile wrote...

mavqt wrote...
That love and respect being zero?

Shocking as it may be for you, it is possible to have a non-monogamous relationship and be quite happy. It's just difficult because there can be lots of other feelings that get in the way - like competitiveness. 

I have yet to see one in the DA series.

It's not a shock for me, I know someone who was in one, It did not work out. Relationships like that just do not make much sense to me. "I love you, but I'm going to bang her/him instead."

[In Exile]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...
Except we're refering to cheating.

The post just talked about "messing around with other character", then moved to "love and respect" and then concluded that all of that had to be cheating. But my point is that the "mess around with other characters" part needn't be cheating. 

And point in fact, it's not even necessarily the case when you start "messing around with multiple people" in DA:O that there is a relationship to say you could be cheating. You could say as much to Morrigan, who comes back with an "I don't share". 

[Savber100]

No.

This isn't a dating simulator. There is no need for Bioware to invest time and money in that when they could instead focus on making Dragon Age Inquisition a great RPG.

[In Exile]

mavqt wrote...
It's not a shock for me, I know someone who was in one, It did not work out. Relationships like that just do not make much sense to me. "I love you, but I'm going to bang her/him instead." 

Poly relationships don't work for me because I don't like to share, but there's nothing inherently confusing about them. Surely you can understand how someone in a relationship could still be attracted to other people? And want to act on those feelings? Being in love and being sexually attracted to someone isn't the same thing. 

It also doesn't have to be an "instead" in there. It could be an "also" or a "toghether". 

[Fredward]

mavqt wrote...

In Exile wrote...

mavqt wrote...
That love and respect being zero?

Shocking as it may be for you, it is possible to have a non-monogamous relationship and be quite happy. It's just difficult because there can be lots of other feelings that get in the way - like competitiveness. 

I have yet to see one in the DA series.

It's not a shock for me, I know someone who was in one, It did not work out. Relationships like that just do not make much sense to me. "I love you, but I'm going to bang her/him instead."

If I really, really like a sandwich and I promise to only ever eat that sandwich for the rest of forever I would get very, very, very tired of that sandwich. Secondly why are you only allowed to love one person? And third sex does not have to equate love.

[Mavqt]

In Exile wrote...
Poly relationships don't work for me because I don't like to share, but there's nothing inherently confusing about them. Surely you can understand how someone in a relationship could still be attracted to other people? And want to act on those feelings? Being in love and being sexually attracted to someone isn't the same thing. 

It also doesn't have to be an "instead" in there. It could be an "also" or a "toghether". 

I didn't say I was confused or anything of the sort.

Sure, I've been attracted to other women while being a in a relationship, everyone has, even if they do not admit it. I did not do anything due to the respect I had for the lady I was in the relationship with, I trust her to do the same.

I just don't see how anything like that could not end in disaster, due to jealousy, etc etc.

[Mavqt]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

mavqt wrote...
I have yet to see one in the DA series.

It's not a shock for me, I know someone who was in one, It did not work out. Relationships like that just do not make much sense to me. "I love you, but I'm going to bang her/him instead."

If I really, really like a sandwich and I promise to only ever eat that sandwich for the rest of forever I would get very, very, very tired of that sandwich. Secondly why are you only allowed to love one person? And third sex does not have to equate love.

One reason that argument doesn't work, sandwiches do not have feelings.

It tends to end up with cheating.

I know that, otherwise prostitutes and pornstars would have a very hard time.

[Dieb]

Why does it seem the most important thing for the hardcore fanbase is ridiculously specific details of the romance subplots? I know I'm being aggressive and I know the devs aren't as simple-minded to actually think so, but if you skim the DAI boards, one might believe that's all we care about.

Or you know, if you want them to put so much effort into expanding on what we've already got in previous games (which IMO is already quite a lot), at least go for a real "romance" for a change. Or whatever it is -- because there's quite the unromantic term for agreeing with whatever someone says long enough until you sleep together for the first time.

[In Exile]

mavqt wrote...
Sure, I've been attracted to other women while being a in a relationship, everyone has, even if they do not admit it. I did not do anything due to the respect I had for the lady I was in the relationship with, I trust her to do the same.

I just don't see how anything like that could not end in disaster, due to jealousy, etc etc.

The important part to understand - the thing that sets being poly apart from cheating - is that it's all in the open. I mean, I suppose you could have an agreement where everyone keeps everything secret, but that's only with everyone's consent. 

It's no less a betrayal/cheating if you're in a poly relationship, you're not OK with a particular partner, and your partner ignores you and/or lies to you. 

As for how it doesn't end in disaster ... there are honestly people that can make it work. The only relationship I saw that didn't end in disaster, however, was between two bi girls who really liked to share. 

[In Exile]

Baelrahn wrote...

Why does it seem the most important thing for the hardcore fanbase is ridiculously specific details of the romance subplots? I know I'm being aggressive and I know the devs aren't as simple-minded to actually think so, but if you skim the DAI boards, one might believe that's all we care about.

It's one thing to chat about romantic subplots and another to wade into a thread about what LIs should be. I waded into the dwarf LI thread out of curiosity and let's just say I'm down two gallons of bleach and in no better position than I was two hours ago. 

[Bfler]

DA isn't a soap opera. Let them include romances, like in previous games, but that should be enough.

[ThePuppetWithNoStrings]

People who are impressed or flattered by possessive jealousy need to get a grip... We already get "jealous" banter with companions if you're simultaneously romancing them, or flirting with someone else:

Morrigan gets angry at a male PC who tries to sleep with Isabela in DAO, Morrigan and Leliana get really catty to one another in banter, Alistair and Zevran have a subtle dialogue or two iirc, all LIs except Isabela tell Zevran off for propositioning Hawke in DA2, all of them get jealous when Hawke flirts with Tallis in MotA.... seriously, the list goes on. Jealousy in romances doesn't need to have a stronger presence than it already has.

[Fredward]

mavqt wrote...
One reason that argument doesn't work, sandwiches do not have feelings.

It tends to end up with cheating.

I know that, otherwise prostitutes and pornstars would have a very hard time.

It's not cheating if the other person knows about it and is okay with it. That's kinda what an open relationship means. To me it doesn't make sense to go "I LOVE YOU SO YOU HAVE TO LOVE ME AND ONLY ME FOREVER AND EVER." It's restrictive, selfish and insecure. But whatever, I'm not trying to convince you or invalidate your way of life, all I'm trying to say is that even if you can't see it working that doesn't mean it doesn't.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Da logic
Morrigan
"i will not make demands on you you are free"
Leliana
"i m bard my job is sleeping with peoples and don't mind with playing peoples feelings"
romace them both and they will start insult each other and attack poor warden because he thought that they don't mind:/

[Wulfram]

Given limited resources available for romances, I'd rather there not be too much spent on this sort of thing.

Modifié par Wulfram, 31 août 2013 - 10:02 .

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Bfler wrote...

DA isn't a soap opera. Let them include romances, like in previous games, but that should be enough.

Love interests get jealous and essentially fight over you in Mass Effect and DA:O.

[Dieb]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Da logic
Morrigan
"i will not make demands on you you are free"
Leliana
"i m bard my job is sleeping with peoples and don't mind with playing peoples feelings"
romace them both and they will start insult each other and attack poor warden because he thought that they don't mind:/

Fun fact: People in fresh relationships sometimes/mostly/always act emotionally steadfaster than they actually are.

Modifié par Baelrahn, 31 août 2013 - 10:16 .

[FeliciaM]

Eh. I don't mind a few jealous banters, they're amusing. But I wouldn't want them clawing each other's eyes out. They can do that in their off time, not while we're walking Fenris and Anders do enough of that to annoy me. And I don't bring Morrigan a long because her constant degradation of everyone gets aggravating, too.

So I tend to only bring either ONLY Fenris or Anders. And I just omit Morrigan entirely

[TheKomandorShepard]

Baelrahn wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Da logic
Morrigan
"i will not make demands on you you are free"
Leliana
"i m bard my job is sleeping with peoples and don't mind with playing peoples feelings"
romace them both and they will start insult each other and attack poor warden because he thought that they don't mind:/

Fun fact: People in fresh relationships sometimes/mostly/always act emotionally steadfaster than they actually are.

isabela and hardened leliana who jums to isabela bed yet still is jealous when kaitlyn or bella kiss you but warden can go to brothel have some fun and she won't have problem with it or sleeping with morrigan - 3 approval kissing kaitlyn - 10 little weird priorities.

[Maiden Crowe]

d-boy15 wrote...

This game is not dating sim...

simfamSP wrote...

Personally, I really hope they don't. It's juvenile and really just B-class writing, unfit for a BioWare romance.

So you're saying it would be a bit too highbrow for a Bioware romance?

Savber100 wrote...

No.

This isn't a dating simulator.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,

Oh man that gets funnier every time I hear it.

[Potato Cat]

The love triangles are some of the more entertaining aspects of Origins and produce some of the funniest (and cutest and sweetest) banters. I'm an especially a big fan of Leliana's suspicions, "You're wading through her swamp!". Gets me every time! It wasn't as in depth I feel in DA2, which was sad, but I think it was if Hawke slept with Fenris and then moved on to Anders, Fenris said something really lovely. Also, I really enjoyed the 'love triangle' between Sebastian, Hawke and Bethany. In fact I loved all the Sebastian/Bethany moments. Adorables!

[Milan92]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

mavqt wrote...
One reason that argument doesn't work, sandwiches do not have feelings.

It tends to end up with cheating.

I know that, otherwise prostitutes and pornstars would have a very hard time.

It's not cheating if the other person knows about it and is okay with it. That's kinda what an open relationship means. To me it doesn't make sense to go "I LOVE YOU SO YOU HAVE TO LOVE ME AND ONLY ME FOREVER AND EVER." It's restrictive, selfish and insecure. But whatever, I'm not trying to convince you or invalidate your way of life, all I'm trying to say is that even if you can't see it working that doesn't mean it doesn't.

Maybe thats because no sane person would say or act like that to someone they care about.

I also completely disagree with that its selfish with wanting to be with just one person. Wanting to have more people to bang/love sounds actually really selfish and also really needy to me.

Why bother beign in a relationship then in the first place.

[DaHeadVampire]

I think the romance is just fine as they are because then it would just be more quests or issues to deal with instead of the task at hand. Hopefully the romance (and the scenes) will be sufficient enough.

Besides....that's what fanfics are for