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[the slynx]

The 'lurkers unite' thread got me thinking about this.

This is from my last PUG session:



Not even a bad team: the second place guy was an experienced and generally helpful player. The two of us ended up doing a few of the objectives mostly on our own while the bottom two players ran off trying to score points. (Hey, at least they gelled and eventually made a cameo at the hack circles.) The spread proportion, if not necessarily the numbers, is fairly common for my PUGs. I don't 'carry,' but if I do go down early in a wave, there's a fairly high chance of failure.

This is from one of my last sessions with a BSNer:



So you can see a difference. Generally, whenever I play with a recognizable BSN player, the scores look something like that. They're killing things before I even see the enemies.

Two things:

First, BSNers typically are really good. There have been very few times I've been hugely impressed with a random player that I didn't know or later discover was from BSN. There's a clear demarcation in knowledge and often ability between randoms and BSNers.

Second, whenever I play with BSNers, I'm reminded that there's a level of ability I can't really fathom. To use a sports analogy, it's like Jon Fitch fighting his way up with a win streak of 16 straight using a smart, gritty style and technical knowledge to reach his title shot, despite limited physical abilities - and then getting totally dominated by GSP, who has both knowledge and natural talent. I mostly know how this game works, and I can pull off headshots, use soft cover and check my surroundings - but that's not the same as being legitimately good at ME3.

When I read this forum, with its Gold solos and its irritation with PUGs, I often wonder how many other BSNers are like me: competent, but not great. There must be others out there.  If lurkers have a thread, I want one, too.

Modifié par torudoom, 31 août 2013 - 01:33 .

[Magniflyer]

This is from my last BSNers match



ps. the second guy was from pugs

[Olaf_de_IJsbeer]

I'm not an especially great player. The fact that I've written a guide may make it seem like I'm really good, but I'm not. To tell the truth, I don't even have a gold solo under my belt. =(

Also, I've never even tried Platinum. I'm sure it'd be a terrible experience for everyone involved.

Modifié par Olaf_de_IJsbeer, 31 août 2013 - 01:39 .

[12323432543]

Lol FTL in 2nd pic.

[Kirchroa Alaaf]

torudoom wrote...

The 'lurkers unite' thread got me thinking about this.

This is from my last PUG session:



Not even a bad team: the second place guy was an experienced and generally helpful player. The two of us ended up doing a few of the objectives mostly on our own while the bottom two players ran off trying to score points. (Hey, at least they gelled and eventually made a cameo at the hack circles.) The spread proportion, if not necessarily the numbers, is fairly common for my PUGs. I don't 'carry,' but if I do go down early in a wave, there's a fairly high chance of failure.

This is from one of my last sessions with a BSNer:



So you can see a difference. Generally, whenever I play with a recognizable BSN player, the scores look something like that. They're killing things before I even see the enemies.

Two things:

First, BSNers typically are really good. There have been very few times I've been hugely impressed with a random player that I didn't know or later discover was from BSN. There's a clear demarcation in knowledge and often ability between randoms and BSNers.

Second, whenever I play with BSNers, I'm reminded that there's a level of ability I can't really fathom. To use a sports analogy, it's like Jon Fitch fighting his way up with a win streak of 16 straight using a smart, gritty style and technical knowledge to reach his title shot, despite limited physical abilities - and then getting totally dominated by GSP, who has both knowledge and natural talent. I mostly know how this game works, and I can pull off headshots, use soft cover and check my surroundings - but that's not the same as being legitimately good at ME3.

When I read this forum, with its Gold solos and its irritation with PUGs, I often wonder how many other BSNers are like me: competent, but not great. There must be others out there.  If lurkers have a thread, I want one, too.

Because you use Jon Fitch and GSP as an example I already like you more:P.... But you are right, there are people out there that just are so good it is scary. And because I am on PS3 I know they most likely are not cheating, they just are that good.

But then again, I met some guys who amazed me and I was impressed. But you meet them a few weeks later and they are still playing with the same kit. And then right away I am less impressed....

[ClydeInTheShell]

I can SOOO read what the blurred out name is in the 2nd picture. disgonbegud.jpg

As far as a mediocre BSNer, it's relative in my opinion. BSN has players who don't play often, don't have the manifest or the experience to be as good as what we've come to expect from BSNers. I suppose by BSN standards, yes, there may be "mediocre" BSNers but I wouldn't look at it that way. I assume that they just haven't reached the level some of the other BSNers have yet, and they will eventually when their manifest & hours played catches up to the others.

[Shinobu]

Oo, me! I'm average! I've maxed my manifest, so that's not an excuse. I'm just not great at headshotting and sometimes I run around like a headless chicken. My performance curve is pretty much flattening out now, so I'll just have to be content with "meh, ok."

Modifié par Shinobu, 31 août 2013 - 01:53 .

[Dreadmed.2]

OP: I'm probably one of them; could haul a gold Pug out of the mire 80% of the time, but never really solo platinum in a feasible time... or at all.

Also, it does seem that whenever I bleed out before wave 10, the rest of the group just implodes and runs about like headless chickens. Like trying to carve their initials into a Turret, or playing stuck-in-the mud with a Banshee. 

P.S, Define "Mediocre". 

Modifié par Dreadmed.2, 31 août 2013 - 01:53 .

[Chromatix]

FTL scoring 173k? What the?

I just want to see the wall of excuses he has. 

Modifié par Chromatix, 31 août 2013 - 01:58 .

[Max Dmian]

Don't worry OP, BSNer on second screenshot is cheating scum.

[Olaf_de_IJsbeer]

Dreadmed.2 wrote...

Also, it does seem that whenever I bleed out before wave 10, the rest of the group just implodes and runs about like headless chickens. Like trying to carve their initials into a Turret, or playing stuck-in-the mud with a Banshee. 

I know that feeling. Once got teleport-synckilled by a Banshee on wave 9 and it didn't take long for two others to get killed as well. I had the distinct pleasure of watching a Turian Sentinel who for some reason never used Warp or Overload playing cat-and-mouse with a Banshee for what felt like fifteen minutes, only to fail. After that, I wasn't left feeling very pleased.

[the slynx]

Mediocre: middling, ordinary. Not 'terrible' as people often and confusingly use it.

Jealous of your maxed manifest, Shinobu. Haven't soloed Gold, either, Olaf. Only time I attempted it was the first Gold match I ever intentionally played; used up my gel by wave eight.

[Deerber]

Lol, so even FTFTL can get the 20 HS sometimes...

Against collectors. Trololol!

[Shinobu]

torudoom wrote...

Mediocre: middling, ordinary. Not 'terrible' as people often and confusingly use it.

Jealous of your maxed manifest, Shinobu. Haven't soloed Gold, either, Olaf. Only time I attempted it was the first Gold match I ever intentionally played; used up my gel by wave eight.

Don't be jealous, a maxed manifest is really kind of a let down. (I know, easy for me to say, right?)

Also, If you got to wave 8  on your first gold solo attempt, you're doing really well. I'm sure you'll get it soon!

Modifié par Shinobu, 31 août 2013 - 02:08 .

[sabreracer]

Shinobu wrote...

Oo, me! I'm average! I've maxed my manifest, so that's not an excuse. I'm just not great at headshotting and sometimes I run around like a headless chicken. My performance curve is pretty much flattening out now, so I'll just have to be content with "meh, ok."

Oh you're SSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOO average <_< like when you clutched that Platinum game with almost the whole spawn budget left for wave 7.

Some of us on BSN are, in the grand scheme of things good at this game but not BSN "Good"

In a PUG we will probably dominate the match but with three others from here the scoreboard won't be a fantasic representation of skill.   Getting to the spawn first is the major factor.

I play with a lot from here I can be first or last (more often) just depends on the day, the kit etc.

[Chromatix]

Element 0 wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

FTL scoring 173k? What the?

I just want to see the wall of excuses he has. 

 

Collectors give less XP to his defense. (wait, what am I doing?)

But he said that he set "high standarts" for himself. (200k in UUG)

Bet we've seen the only existing screenshot of this match. 

[Max Dmian]

Deerber wrote...

Lol, so even FTFTL can get the 20 HS sometimes...

Against collectors. Trololol!

Maybe he modded Stasis on his TSol?

[satchel]

Max Dmian wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Lol, so even FTFTL can get the 20 HS sometimes...

Against collectors. Trololol!

Maybe he modded Stasis on his TSol?

Too obtuse. He probably just aimbots now. Still legit though.

[Chromatix]

skinsatchel wrote...

Max Dmian wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Lol, so even FTFTL can get the 20 HS sometimes...

Against collectors. Trololol!

Maybe he modded Stasis on his TSol?

Too obtuse. He probably just aimbots now. Still legit though.

FasterThanJHXTT?

[Leland Gaunt]

skinsatchel wrote...

Max Dmian wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Lol, so even FTFTL can get the 20 HS sometimes...

Against collectors. Trololol!

Maybe he modded Stasis on his TSol?

Too obtuse. He probably just aimbots now. Still legit though.

That which can't be illegitimate.

[SilentStep79]

I wouldn't base "mediocrity" solely upon lacking the ability to top score amongst other BSNers.

in fact, I've seen some really effective killers look pretty average when it comes to areas like survivability, situational awareness, and even kit versatility.

so much more to this game than score. BSNers know more than most about ME3, hence the reflection on the boards after most PUG games, but for me, the range in abilities amongst us here is mostly irrelevant because I know "we" can hold our own ingame and make each match successful regardless of score.

[the slynx]

Shinobu wrote...

Don't be jealous, a maxed manifest is really kind of a let down. (I know, easy for me to say, right?)

Also, If you got to wave 8  on your first gold solo attempt, you're doing really well. I'm sure you'll get it soon!

I'm still jealous, even if you're disappointed. Also, it was intentional. For some reason, it made a lot of sense to me at the time that I should be able to solo Gold before playing it in PUGs. I suspect I could with some kits if someone invented a drug for increasing patience, but until then, I'm not going for it.

[Chromatix]

torudoom wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Don't be jealous, a maxed manifest is really kind of a let down. (I know, easy for me to say, right?)

Also, If you got to wave 8  on your first gold solo attempt, you're doing really well. I'm sure you'll get it soon!

I'm still jealous, even if you're disappointed. Also, it was intentional. For some reason, it made a lot of sense to me at the time that I should be able to solo Gold before playing it in PUGs. I suspect I could with some kits if someone invented a drug for increasing patience, but until then, I'm not going for it.

Patience? In Gold Solo? Puleeeeaase.