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[The Elder King]

@Ausstig: the writers (not only Gaider) said that the qunari use the term 'qunari' to indicate their race too, not kossith. So it would make completely sense for Bioware to call the playable race qunari, expecially because the majority knows the race as qunari, not kossith.

[stysiaq]

WTF is kossith? First time I hear the word.

I'm very curious about Qunari females.

[Illeuad]

glenboy24 wrote...

Qunari a Playable Race
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Custom Keeps
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*dies smiling*

[Ziegrif]

So I can be a Qunari?
I can just Titan stomp everything?
...

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!!

[TheInquisitor]

I'm curious if we will be able to make the Qunari hornless.

[snackrat]

Heh. I always wondered if Tallis was supposed to be cheeky. All these people demanding female qunari and then Tallis turns up: "Here you go."

I know developers don't like the term 'kossith', it refers to their previous barabaric lifestyle rather than the race itself. Since Vashoth means 'grey ones' and Tal'Vashoth means 'true grey ones' (because the Tal'Vashoth think it kinda uncool the qunari gave up being badass) does that mean that referred to them as Vashoth would be a general encompassment?

[Herr Uhl]

Karsciyin wrote...

I know developers don't like the term 'kossith', it refers to their previous barabaric lifestyle rather than the race itself. Since Vashoth means 'grey ones' and Tal'Vashoth means 'true grey ones' (because the Tal'Vashoth think it kinda uncool the qunari gave up being badass) does that mean that referred to them as Vashoth would be a general encompassment?

Vashoth seems to be an insult to defectors. Grey being that they turned away from the Qun. True Grey being that they're actively against the Qun.

I doubt it will be used.

[Diefenbaker]

stysiaq wrote...

WTF is kossith? First time I hear the word.

I'm very curious about Qunari females.

Kossith is the name of the actual race.
Qunari are followers of the Qun. Most happen to be Kossith. So you could have a human Qunari, but not a human Kossith.

This doesn't mean we can't play as a Kossith race, they just called it 'Qunari playable race' because more people are familiar with the term Qunari being the race.

[Herr Uhl]

AelixVII wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

WTF is kossith? First time I hear the word.

I'm very curious about Qunari females.

Kossith is the name of the actual race.
Qunari are followers of the Qun. Most happen to be Kossith. So you could have a human Qunari, but not a human Kossith.

This doesn't mean we can't play as a Kossith race, they just called it 'Qunari playable race' because more people are familiar with the term Qunari being the race.

Kossith is the name of the civilization they lived in before they adopted the Qun. It is as nonspecific as Qunari.

[Zerker]

AelixVII wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

WTF is kossith? First time I hear the word.

I'm very curious about Qunari females.

Kossith is the name of the actual race.

This has been said a thousand times before, Kossith is NOT the name of the species. Kossith depicts the "culture" of that particular species before the mass conversion to Qun, as told by David Gaider.

[Ausstig]

Marten Stroud wrote...

Ausstig wrote...

Marten Stroud wrote...


Qunari is essentially an ethnoreligious term, similar to Jew. There is the Qunari religion, consisting of people from any race. And there is the Qunari race/ethnicity, consisting solely of the gray ox-people.

No.

A Jew is a follower of Judisum. THAT IS ALL. They are not a race, they 'Jewish race' are Arabs. Or a term used to refer to Jewish people. They are not an actual race, it is made up. Like Aryan.

The Ox men are called something else, Kossith (sp). They are commonly miss labed as Qunari, but it is not true.  

1. There is a Jewish ethnicity.
2. The writers, or at least David Gaider, dislike the term kossith. And it has been established as an archaic term in-universe. So virtually no one uses it except an unknown number of Thedosian historians.

1. Bull$#*& there is. They are a religion. Jews are Arabs ethnicly (at least the tribes were, converts are what ever they are). Jews are no mre genticly different from the rest of the Arab race then arisocrates. 

2. Well what to call them? Cause this really could be taken in two different ways. They need a better name. 

[dragonflight288]

stysiaq wrote...

WTF is kossith? First time I hear the word.

I'm very curious about Qunari females.

Kossith is the race the qunari are commonly associated with. The Arishok, Sten, and such are Kossith. Qunari is the word that is their philosophy, followers of the Qun. An elf who converts is Qunari, same as any Arishok. Tallis would be Qunari as well, despite being an elf.

[Polarl8ear]

I just wanted to say the reveal and the Bioware base were great, I had an awesome time and it was awesome interacting and listening to the developers in such a small setting. Easily the best part of PAX for me.

Here is hoping the quanari head butt and the dwarf nut butt make it in

[Samzo77]

Faerunner wrote...

... Actually, come to think of it, the Inquisitor's start in DA3 sounds a wee bit like Loghain's start in DA:O (with obvious differences, of course). Just as Loghain was there when the Blight swallowed up Ostagar and most people in Ferelden said afterwards, "Hmm, how convenient that you and your men were the only ones to survive," the Inquisitor was there when the sky opened and destroyed whatever, and most people are taking the stance of, "Hmm, how convenient that you were the only one to survive."

Personally, any comparison to Loghain makes my gut wrench, but it's a speculation.

I like that comparison.

However it works out, I'm excited to see it.

[Kalyppso]

Wow. That was all fan feedback. (: Very, very cool.

[ArtemisMoons]

I find it fascinating that people refuse to take the world creators' word (which is law in the universe that they created) for it when they say that Kossith =/= horned qunari. xD

[ArtemisMoons]

dragonflight288 wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

WTF is kossith? First time I hear the word.

I'm very curious about Qunari females.

Kossith is the race the qunari are commonly associated with. The Arishok, Sten, and such are Kossith. Qunari is the word that is their philosophy, followers of the Qun. An elf who converts is Qunari, same as any Arishok. Tallis would be Qunari as well, despite being an elf.

Except that you are incorrect. Kossith is not a race. It's an old, outdated culture. 
Qunari still refers to the horned creatures that we know, just as easily as it does the converts.

[ArtemisMoons]

Faerunner wrote...
Which is still confusing because there is no commonly known term to differentiate the biological race from the philosophy religion. I swear, whenever someone mentions "Qunari" in any topic, at least one person has to ask if they mean horned giant, follower of the Qun, or both? I think people clung to "kossith" because it was at least a way to define the race without the ideology.

I guess that I am in the minority of not finding it confusing. lol.
I just find it incredibly odd that people cling to something that is incorrect, especially since it has been said many times by the writers that Kossith is not about race but culture.
If the Qunari/qunari bit is too confusing, why not just say follower of the Qun vs qunari? I get that people like brevity, but sometimes it helps to be more clear in what you're talking about if it confuses people. lol

[dragonflight288]

ArtemisMoons wrote...

Faerunner wrote...
Which is still confusing because there is no commonly known term to differentiate the biological race from the philosophy religion. I swear, whenever someone mentions "Qunari" in any topic, at least one person has to ask if they mean horned giant, follower of the Qun, or both? I think people clung to "kossith" because it was at least a way to define the race without the ideology.

I guess that I am in the minority of not finding it confusing. lol.
I just find it incredibly odd that people cling to something that is incorrect, especially since it has been said many times by the writers that Kossith is not about race but culture.
If the Qunari/qunari bit is too confusing, why not just say follower of the Qun vs qunari? I get that people like brevity, but sometimes it helps to be more clear in what you're talking about if it confuses people. lol

I have read the devs say several times the Qunari isn't race, but culture. It may be that Kossith may be an older form of their culture, and the race of horned giants simply are called that as time went on, but the Qun is most definitely a philosophy, and those who follow it are Qunari, not necessarily of the same race.

[Taleroth]

AelixVII wrote...

Kossith is the name of the actual race.

Kossith are pre-Qun culture. The race is as much Kossith as englishmen are Celts and Saxons.

[Lord Gremlin]

Look, I was going to be reasonable, wait for reviews...
But really, a chance to play a female kossith/qunari saarebas?
Fine, day 1 purchase of Collectors Edition regardless of price.

Every time you think you're done with em, Bioware just grabs you by the balls and states "no, you WILL buy it".
How come it works so well?

Imagine how much hatred towards Qun such character would bear.

[Ausstig]

Marten Stroud wrote...

Some people will never understand the concept of an ethnoreligious group. 

I had never heard the term before. 

It seems they are created due a seperation from the general gene pool of the others in their area. It reminds me of the differences between different classes in medevial Europe. 

Still I feel another name would help