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Bioware and "Oh wait, actually you *can* save everyone"


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Wrong again. Nobody said anything about 'shouldn't' or 'aren't allowed.'

Try and grasp this simple premise. I'm okay with both. With females wearing armor, and with females wearing feminine clothing. Both. Is that clear enough for you? Any ideas of being 'not allowed' are your own delusions.

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David7204 wrote...

Sexist as in acknowledging that males and females are not the same? Absolutely.


I knew it.

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David7204 wrote...

I am defending a female character wearing feminine clothing as opposed to bulky armor.


David7204 wrote...

Wrong again. Nobody said anything about 'shouldn't' or 'aren't allowed.'

Try and grasp this simple premise. I'm okay with both. With females wearing armor, and with females wearing feminine clothing. Both. Is that clear enough for you? Any ideas of being 'not allowed' are your own delusions.


You're contradicting yourself.


Defending "feminine (e.g. hoochy) clothing as opposed to proper armor" =/= "being okay with both".


No amount of ad-hominem attacks is going to make this glaring contradiction go away Davey.


gg wp no re.

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^

The real world usually just has Option A and Option B. They don't have to either one be "****ty" or not.

Helping Dagna or not in DA:O means you can either get her to the Circle, where she studies with the Mages and becomes an established scholar, or have her stay in Orzammar, where she lives with her family and keeps her family name.

Is one choice "****ty" in this case? No. In a decade, when she is raising her children in Orzammar, she may be very happy that they aren't being raised topside as casteless. Or she may be incredibly satisfied living as a scholar in the Circle.

There isn't dead bodies or people suffering the plague... it's just a choice. With two outcomes. They don't have to be inherently dark or depressing for them to have roughly equal outcomes.

I didn't realize there were ever any complaints about the choice with Dagna. It's not the kind of choice where untold lives/your own life obviously hang in the balance where you'd even think to look for an "everyone wins" solution. However, for a choice like Connor, if there's a way to enter the Fade to save him without killing someone with blood magic or just killing him outright, someone at all concerned would look into that option.

Personally I think it should have at least been accounted for, the amount of time it takes to do that, and maybe you should leave party members to guard the area and have it be another Redcliffe attack situation in the keep, where anyone you let die dies-- but leaving that option out would be ham fisting in a moral dilemma where it needn't be.

Again, I don't deny that there are some situations where moral judgment is required. But that's not going to be every situation. Balance is needed.

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There's no contradiction at all. Being okay with A and B means defending B when people say B is stupid and we should only have A. If you can't follow basic logic, that's not really my concern.

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I took a screenshot.

GL HF.

Live on 3.

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I see David is going off on his "characterization"

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David7204 wrote...

There's no contradiction at all. Being okay with A and B means defending B when people say B is stupid and we should only have A. If you can't follow basic logic, that's not really my concern.


Apparantly you haven't grasped the concept of mutual exclusivity either. That logic David, you should brand it and put it next to your David brand heroism.

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Recording Demo.

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David7204 wrote...

There's no contradiction at all. Being okay with A and B means defending B when people say B is stupid and we should only have A. If you can't follow basic logic, that's not really my concern.


It IS a contradiction, because saying you're defending A as OPPOSED to B =/= being okay with both.


Sorry Davey, but you can't wiggle yourself out of this one.

It's very clear that you're pretty sexist. Any self-respecting adult would not defend this idiotic trend in video-games where females are portayed in skimpy armor to show of their goods in order to appeal to the average teenage nerds who make up the majority of the people who play these type of video-games.

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Steelcan wrote...

I see David is going off on his "characterization"

He loves his characterization, the bigger the better.

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Mr.House wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I see David is going off on his "characterization"

He loves his characterization, the bigger the better.


Image IPB

Dat sweet sweet characterization
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Do you all have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.

Modifié par David7204, 01 septembre 2013 - 09:53 .


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David7204 wrote...

Do of you have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.

Because friends' posts don't show up in Recent Activity amirite?

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David7204 wrote...

Do of you have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.

Its more of a signal ala Batman

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David7204 wrote...

Do of you have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.


Your stupid posts are a shining beacon in the darkness, I can't help looking into a thread sometimes.

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Methinks we're going to have another interesting thread locked down from pointless arguing.

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There's no contradiction.There's no mutual exclusionism. For some characters I support A as opposed to B. For some I support B as opposed to A.

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The TC is asking for choices were you can't save everyone. 


No, the thread starter is complaining about choices where you can save everyone. If he'd just said 'I want some difficult choices where you lose something either way' this thread would have been people mostly agreeing.

Instead the first post is him saying that any instance of a choice where one is 'objectively' better than the others is inherently wrong.

Yes, this is the heart of the issue, for me.

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David7204 wrote...

Do of you have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.


Euhmmm, I know this might sound strange and unfamilliar to you but BSN actually has a neat little page called "recent friend activity" where you can see the recent posts made by your friends.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 01 septembre 2013 - 10:11 .


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David7204 wrote...

Do of you have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.


There is no conversation. You're just going off on some point that people disagree with. And you refuse to accept that people disagree with you because you have an ego problem.

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J. Reezy wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Do of you have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.

Because friends' posts don't show up in Recent Activity amirite?

I wouldn't know. I deny any friends requests I get.

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Wait doesn't david just said that he doesn't mind or want that females who don't wear armor well at least some of them? To be honest jacob doesn't wear armor too and i don't have any problem with that everyone wear whatever likes.

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David7204 wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Do of you have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.

Because friends' posts don't show up in Recent Activity amirite?

I wouldn't know. I deny any friends requests I get.

You don't have friends on here? We should fix that. *Wink wink*:wub:

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David7204 wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Do of you have alerts or something for your little clique to show up whenever I make posts? Steelcan, House, why don't you go play cheerleader somewhere else? This conversation really doesn't concern you.

Because friends' posts don't show up in Recent Activity amirite?

I wouldn't know. I deny any friends requests I get.


I'm sure you do it in real life too.