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[Jackums]

How can you even come to these conclusions with what we've seen? "Story feels neglected"?




Negativity for the sake of negativity written all over this thread.

[Genshie]

As many others have said you should feel grateful that DA Team is showing anything at all at this point in time. And for alpha quality this is great. Beating dead horse= waaaaay too early to give any major harsh criticisms.

[Vapaa]

Foshizzlin wrote.
2. The gameplay feels like The Witcher.

Witcher is not a party-based tactical RPG with detached camera

Foshizzlin wrote.
3. Combat seems to have a high prevalence to storyline.

Just like DAO: 80% of the time is fighting

I'd even say it's less combat oriented than DAO: with no health-regen, limited potions, no level-scalling and the ability to avoid fights, you now have to think twice before engaging a group of mooks...in DAO, it wasn't possible

[Genshie]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Everybody's got different opinions, a shame you disagree. I guess you won't be buying then, but I will.

Clertar also has a point. The Witcher? What did they show that had anything to do with the Witcher?

The vast open areas and I guess dodge roll? Maybe the semi-twitch combat? (which by the way can totally be change with the added isometric viewing/pause commanding. And even when you paused in Witcher the combat is still going) Saying it is same as the Witcher is just stretching for the sake of doing so.

Edit: What is funny though is that OP should have realized he was going to get slammed really hard with these kinds of ridiculous critisims, no whinning/nit-picking.

Modifié par Genshie, 01 septembre 2013 - 10:38 .

[Andraste_Reborn]

3. Combat seems to have a high prevalence to storyline.

It is possible that this is true. It is also possible that the game contains another army of zombie kittens. At the moment, we have no information to suggest that this is so.

With more than a year to go before the game is released and loads of other things to tell us, they obviously want to keep us as far away as possible from the story.

[Blackrising]

I am slowly but surely coming to the conclusion that peeps on the BSN simply love being miserable and pulling other people into mysery along with them.

I can't explain most topics and posts here any other way.

[Gibbles]

I'm assuming the demo was being played on normal difficulty or something. Which meant they could play it pretty much like The Witcher like you could in DA2.

[Ausstig]

I am also less then impressed by what we have seen.

[Maiden Crowe]

Nothing wrong with expressing concerns in a civil manner and keeping a healthy level of scepticism, still what I have seen so far has exceeded my expectations and I must admit I am looking forward to hearing more.

Foshizzlin wrote...

in my opinion, the game doesn't look like this sort of "amazing game vastly superior to DA:O" that some are claiming it to be.

I think this game can be better than Origins but then I never really considered Origins to be that great, Origins never really set the bar all that high so I doubt it would be all that hard to surpass. Personally I like how they have put a bigger emphasis on exploration and world building and one of the things I am most interested in hearing about is the army management and diplomacy is handled in this game and what effect it has on the world around you. 

DooomCookie wrote...

You have a point.  Most of the stuff I've been getting excited for is just stuff that is returning from DA:O

Which so far is limited to the return of racial choice?

Modifié par Maiden Crowe, 01 septembre 2013 - 12:29 .

[AlexJK]

JackumsD wrote...

Negativity for the sake of negativity written all over this thread.

And the rest of the forum. It's pathetic, really.

Game looks awesome. Another year of development can only make it more awesome. Collectors' Edition pre-order in the bag, BW!

[Diefenbaker]

People get too nostalgic, they overlook the problems with DAO and fiercely protect it. There was no previous DA game to compare it to so it set its own rules and frame.

And now here we are judging pre-ALPHA content.

[Bfler]

I'm waiting for the feminist crowd, which claims, that the cleavage and the walking style of the female Qunari mage companion is sexist.

[The Elder King]

Bfler wrote...

I'm waiting for the feminist crowd, which claims, that the cleavage and the walking style of the female Qunari mage companion is sexist.

That female mare is Vivienne, which is human, not a qunari.

[Magdalena11]

I'm pleasantly surprised by the actual gameplay that was revealed. The degree of visual detail is remarkable. The movement and combat were actually rendered with cutscene-like quality.

I'm not too concerned about combat being the dominant force in the plot. This was a demo so I expect they showed some of the flashier examples to draw attention to the capabilities of the new engine. There was a brief demo of how the new dialogue system is going to be handled and I'm pretty sure dialogue will be a very significant part of gameplay.

The only (very minute) disappointment I experienced in the 1/2 hour or so the demos lasted was a view of Vivienne running from behind. Darn it, female characters' hips are going to sway in the same ridiculous fashion they did in both other games. I usually play female characters and watching my PC run like she's trying to keep a hula hoop going is distracting. Considering everything that looks like it's on the right track, I'll shut up now.

Edit:  I just read the posts that got in while I was choosing my words and no, I'm not complaining that the way Vivienne runs is sexist.  I just think it looks goofy.

Modifié par Magdalena11, 01 septembre 2013 - 12:54 .

[Blackrising]

Bfler wrote...

I'm waiting for the feminist crowd, which claims, that the cleavage and the walking style of the female Qunari mage companion is sexist.

Nah, but I do think boob windows are kinda ridiculous. I simply don't understand the purpose.
You might as well paint a bullseye on your chest.

[Sejborg]

Still too early to tell.

But it seems to me that the tone of the game isn't quite what I was hoping for. I like a good story in the games I play, but I somehow feel that the story they are going with is directed to one audience, while the gameplay is directed to another. And I am not sure that I am going to like either.

The story is targeted at the women with cats segment, and the gameplay is for the COD crowd. However they did say there would be tactical gameplay and the tactical overview would return - but they didn't show it so I don't know what to think.

[The Elder King]

Sejborg wrote...

Still too early to tell.

But it seems to me that the tone of the game isn't quite what I was hoping for. I like a good story in the games I play, but I somehow feel that the story they are going with is directed to one audience, while the gameplay is directed to another. And I am not sure that I am going to like either.

The story is targeted at the women with cats segment, and the gameplay is for the COD crowd. However they did say there would be tactical gameplay and the tactical overview would return - but they didn't show it so I don't know what to think.

They shown the tactical view, here:
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=bbGN7OBngCQ

[AllThatJazz]

Sejborg wrote...

Still too early to tell.

But it seems to me that the tone of the game isn't quite what I was hoping for. I like a good story in the games I play, but I somehow feel that the story they are going with is directed to one audience, while the gameplay is directed to another. And I am not sure that I am going to like either.

The story is targeted at the women with cats segment, and the gameplay is for the COD crowd. However they did say there would be tactical gameplay and the tactical overview would return - but they didn't show it so I don't know what to think.

They have shown it, it's in one of the PAX videos (part 2 I think)

[AlexJK]

Sejborg wrote...

The story is targeted at the women with cats segment, and the gameplay is for the COD crowd.

... what?

[jontepwn]

They've said next to nothing about the story and I think it will stay that way until the game is released, mostly due to spoilers I would think. What was shown was only a side-quest (I think). The purpose of the demo was to show gameplay. (Although your fears on whether story/characterization will take a back seat like in ME3 are well warranted..)

I have to agree though on the player character not looking too impressive. However I didn't think the companions looked bad, I thought they looked fantastic.

Modifié par jontepwn, 01 septembre 2013 - 01:10 .

[aries1001]

I agree that exploration coming back to the DA franchise are great However, as I previously stated, I'm also a bit concerned, mainly over the keeps that we can defend, attack and take. And that taking/conquering keeps seem to be a requirement if we want to get acces to other areas. (maybe I'm hearing this wrongly or maybe I'm interpreting it badly?)

Also, I don't get the excitement about mounts (horses) which are now in DA: Inquisition game. From the way the devs. (Laidlaw, Darrah) etc. have explained this, it seems using horses are a requirement if we want to travel from say western Ferelden to Eastern Orlais. Surely there most be a stage coach service? or maybe even a boat service which will take you - for a fee - to - ehm - places? you need to go....?

Tactical camera being back is a good thing; however, I'm a bit worried also about the whole no health regenerating. I'm worried about that we will spent to much time going back to our homebase or rest way too much in camp. Like I did in BG2.

[Paul E Dangerously]

Bfler wrote...

I'm waiting for the feminist crowd, which claims, that the cleavage and the walking style of the female Qunari mage companion is sexist.

Already had a lot of that with the flap over "There's not enough female inquisitor footage so Bioware doesn't care about the female audience!" a few weeks ago. Granted, we've seen about five minutes of solid gameplay before PAX and barely anything of any Inquisitor..

I think all this early complaining is a bit silly anyway. "It's too twitchy!" "They're pandering to the COD crowd because the Inquisitor does something except stand there and swing!" "Why should I have the ability to dodge?" "You're not catering to my audience!".

Just look at how the "I don't wanna play a human! You're not catering to my tastes!" and "I don't like the dialogue wheel because I can't completely know what my character's going to do!" arguments just got stomped into the dirt.

Keep your damn pants on, BSN. It's still well over a year from launch, and Bioware's not going to blow their figurative load this early. They've got a long, long time to pace this stuff.

Modifié par Sopa de Gato, 01 septembre 2013 - 01:15 .

[DaringMoosejaw]

Sejborg wrote...

Still too early to tell.

But it seems to me that the tone of the game isn't quite what I was hoping for. I like a good story in the games I play, but I somehow feel that the story they are going with is directed to one audience, while the gameplay is directed to another. And I am not sure that I am going to like either.

The story is targeted at the women with cats segment, and the gameplay is for the COD crowd. However they did say there would be tactical gameplay and the tactical overview would return - but they didn't show it so I don't know what to think.

Anyone who doesn't like what they've seen so far is clearly a neo-****, a statement I back up by referring to all the evidence you did here.