251 réponses à ce sujet

[TheWerdna]

RainbowDazed wrote...

Hi guys,

I've made a bit of a mess for myself. I was in a relationship with Ashley before I died and when I came back, she and I were in such different places in life that it was impossible for us to get back together. I mourned for her loss, I really did. But then something happened. I started spending more time with Tali and before I knew it, she had a special place in my heart. I'm very much in love with her and wish to be with her. 

But now Ashley is back and I don't know what to do. When we were together I though she was the one. My heart still pounds for her and I long to be by her side. Tali is different, but I love her as dearly as I love Ashley. Neither of them is open to the idea of polyamorous relationship and I am at loss with what to do. Can you please help me out?

Sincerely,
Commander Shepard. Beast in uniting a galaxy, a tool in intimate relationships. 

My advice would be to pick Tali, becasue its one of the better romance arcs in ME3 while Bioware REALLY dropped the ball on Ashley's.

Ashley spends the first half of the game angry at you for working with Cerberus, then once you make up still acts very distant (even when you diodn't cheat on her) until the end of the game where she basically goes "Oh, I love you too. Lets sleep togeather now, k?".  Whats worse is that Ashley probably has the least amount of content of any squadmate, with even Kaidan, who basically fills the same role as her if he lived instead, having more to say aboard the normany to Shepard and to other squadmates.

Tali on the other hand immediatly jumps right back into the relationship where ME2 left off without the "distant" period of taking it slow that plauges even the other well done romance arcs like Garrus and Liara. Tali's romance arc is full of tons of good scenes and awesome dialogue that Ashley's is honestly lacking; mad better with how Tali's romance arc actually tied in really well with the Rannoch arc in Me3.  Also, while Liara and Garrus have more content and time to spend with them in a romance, Tali agrguably has the most amount of romance specific dialoguq; with nearly every scene and  conversation with her changing a bit to reflect if she's in a relationship with Shepard or not. This in my opinion goes a long way to making the romance arc feel more believable, as its the little things that really make the difference.

Also while Ashley gets super pissed off if you cheated on her with Miranda or Jack; if you do so with Tali she is all like "its okay, I totally aprove." So even Ashley is okay with you being with Tali. Do the right thing.

Now, if you want to get the catfight scene on the Geth Dreadnaught mission, here is what you need to do. For it to work you need to have NOT locked in your romance with either Tali nor Ashley yet. Tali's romance arc is locked  in  or offically ended during the conversation when you invite her up to your cabin to talk (which is aviable right before siad mission if you choose, but you can wait to do it after) while Ashley's  romance arc is locked  in  or offically ended during the conversation when you meet her on the Citadel to have lunch (which is aviable around the same time). For the catfight to happen, make sure you don't do either of those until after the geth Dreadnaut mission, and then bring Ashley with you on said mission  (Tali is already a required squadmate for that mission)

Modifié par TheWerdna, 01 septembre 2013 - 04:39 .

[Venom man4]

It's whoever the OP wants, I choose Tali.

[N7lightingWarrior]

Barquiel wrote...

N7lightingWarrior wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Liara > Jack > Samara > Miranda > Kelly > Ashley > Tali

Why Kelly? She does not have such interesting story as other characters and you don't see her that often. Even though I prefer her from Allers (no offense for those who like her)

I like her ME2 romance. It was by far the most realistically written and believable romance in that game, imo. She has consistent relationship build and flirting.

Too bad they have cut alot of Kelly's content in ME3 (and included Traynor in place). The leaked script had some good parts in for Kelly

If they kept her in Normandy's crew and add to her story more drama (for example to tell you her story on how she get involved with Cerberus) and gives you after each mission helpfull psychological tips on how to overcome stress or opinions on your paragon/renegade choices, she could have become one of the most interesting LI.
P.S.: Maybe she did tell you her personal story but I don't remember cause I didn't pay attention every time she was talking to you. Sorry for that!

[Barquiel]

RatThing wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Too bad they have cut alot of Kelly's content in ME3 (and included Traynor in place). The leaked script had some good parts in for Kelly

I'm curious about that. Can you fill me in or tell me where I can find this content?

She tells you how she first met the Illusive Man, some insight on her background, what she did before Cerberus and how she joined Cerberus. There was a bit more romance content (and conflicts) as well. She could also rejoin the Normandy SR-2.

Modifié par Barquiel, 01 septembre 2013 - 04:42 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

As some people have been saying, it's really whoever you want to romance.

Nobody here is going to convince me that Tali or Ashley or Liara are good characters or romances worth my time. They aren't and they never will be, and that's really the end of it. I'm repulsed by all of them.

I'm a Miranda fan, and I have my reasons for being one, and that too is the end of it. No one is going to convince me of any reason to not like her, probably in the same way they won't convince me that the traits that they love in Tali, Ashley, or Liara are good. The things I like about Miranda turn off other people, just as the traits in TA&L that people love are things that I strongly dislike and despise.

At the end, only you know who or what you like. You can use Shepard as a conduit for your own self, or you can RP and make a specific Shepard that follows a distinct path. Romance whoever is right for you or your Shepard.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 01 septembre 2013 - 04:43 .

[The___Baron]

Necanor wrote...

The___Baron wrote...

Necanor wrote...
Jesus, what's wrong with poor ol Han? And why is the entire Quarian race responsible for the actions of one jackass? If humanity was judged like that, we would've been exterminated looong ago.

The quarians are in the postion that they're in becuase it was a hell of a lot more then just one jackass, more like just about every single quarian that fled Rannoch in the firstplace, after trying to kill off all the geth and any of the Quarians who sided with them. 

Tali and Koris are a minority also, the name Qwib-Qwib is hilarious. ecially if Liara had the rest of it minus the helmet 

Wait, trying to enforce council law  by trying to exterminate the Geth is evil? But butchering millions upon millions of Quarians and other organic civilians, who literally had nothing to do with the war, was good? Hell, you have some twisted morals.

I was not aware, that a 7 year old Quarian girl who escaped her gruesome death at the hands of merciless machines, with both parents dead, is a jackass. Neither was I aware, that the decisions of the Quarian government and military were in any way whatsoever affected by what the civilians thought or wanted.

To quote a dying Dorn'Hazt: "Please forgive us, the Civilian Fleet didn't want this war, we're sorry.". Three Admirals wanted war, the majority of the 17 million Quarians was against it, so apparently it's now just to commit genocide upon the entire species, upon your allies.

Yes merciless machines that allowed the Quarians to escape when they could have easily killed every last one if they wanted to so evil. Butchering millions who had nothing to do with the war? Please they willingly supported it, they had no problem killing those that didn't wan't to go along with their exterminate the Geth bull****.  

Just because it's law to destroy AI even if they have nothing against oragnics and simply mind their own buisness is clearly just and oh so good and morally correct.

Yes the Civilian Fleet claiming not to have wanted the war yet they willing went along with the rest of the fleet, clearly they didn't support the war why else would they let themselves be dragged along to the front lines. 

The qurians have zero problem trying to genocide sentient machines that don't even wan't to fight them in the first place yet simply do so to deffend themselves. Clearly the geth are oh so evil when within mintues of the Quarians finally pulling their heads out of their asses and stop trying to kill them. They invite them back to live on Rannoch and even go so far as to start constructing infrastructre and helping their immune system adapt. Nope totally evils merciless machine demons that have zero right to exist even though they are sentient and far more peaceful and trust worthy then the Qurians ever where. 

And I'm, the one with twisted morals? That's rich. 

[shit's fucked cunts]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Hey, being able to exhibit wide variety of moods and emotions is a sign of a healthy psyche

Maybe that's why I'm so terrible with women; I've barely executed anyone.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

The___Baron wrote...

Necanor wrote...

The___Baron wrote...

Necanor wrote...
Jesus, what's wrong with poor ol Han? And why is the entire Quarian race responsible for the actions of one jackass? If humanity was judged like that, we would've been exterminated looong ago.

The quarians are in the postion that they're in becuase it was a hell of a lot more then just one jackass, more like just about every single quarian that fled Rannoch in the firstplace, after trying to kill off all the geth and any of the Quarians who sided with them. 

Tali and Koris are a minority also, the name Qwib-Qwib is hilarious. ecially if Liara had the rest of it minus the helmet 

Wait, trying to enforce council law  by trying to exterminate the Geth is evil? But butchering millions upon millions of Quarians and other organic civilians, who literally had nothing to do with the war, was good? Hell, you have some twisted morals.

I was not aware, that a 7 year old Quarian girl who escaped her gruesome death at the hands of merciless machines, with both parents dead, is a jackass. Neither was I aware, that the decisions of the Quarian government and military were in any way whatsoever affected by what the civilians thought or wanted.

To quote a dying Dorn'Hazt: "Please forgive us, the Civilian Fleet didn't want this war, we're sorry.". Three Admirals wanted war, the majority of the 17 million Quarians was against it, so apparently it's now just to commit genocide upon the entire species, upon your allies.

Yes merciless machines that allowed the Quarians to escape when they could have easily killed every last one if they wanted to so evil. Butchering millions who had nothing to do with the war? Please they willingly supported it, they had no problem killing those that didn't wan't to go along with their exterminate the Geth bull****.  

Just because it's law to destroy AI even if they have nothing against oragnics and simply mind their own buisness is clearly just and oh so good and morally correct.

Yes the Civilian Fleet claiming not to have wanted the war yet they willing went along with the rest of the fleet, clearly they didn't support the war why else would they let themselves be dragged along to the front lines. 

The qurians have zero problem trying to genocide sentient machines that don't even wan't to fight them in the first place yet simply do so to deffend themselves. Clearly the geth are oh so evil when within mintues of the Quarians finally pulling their heads out of their asses and stop trying to kill them. They invite them back to live on Rannoch and even go so far as to start constructing infrastructre and helping their immune system adapt. Nope totally evils merciless machine demons that have zero right to exist even though they are sentient and far more peaceful and trust worthy then the Qurians ever where. 

And I'm, the one with twisted morals? That's rich. 

Don't argue with Necanor. The Quarians can do no wrong to him. It is funny to see the excuses some people flounder to for certain races.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Zazzerka wrote...

Maybe that's why I'm so terrible with women; I've barely executed anyone.

What can I say? Bitches love carnage.

Walking tall, machine gun man. 

[TheWerdna]

Hey guys, I have an idea... lets not start a another Geth vs Quarians debate in a thread THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Nor should we be arguing about love interests who are NOT Tali or Ashley. The OP Specifically asked about who to choose between those two. If you want to debate the other love interests, make another thread to do it.

[Br3admax]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Zazzerka wrote...

Maybe that's why I'm so terrible with women; I've barely executed anyone.

What can I say? Bitches love carnage.

So true. So true. 

[Br3admax]

TheWerdna wrote...

Hey guys, I have an idea... lets not start a another Geth vs Quarians debate in a thread THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Nor should we be arguing about love interests who are NOT Tali or Ashley. The OP Specifically asked about who to choose between those two. If you want to debate the other love interests, make another thread to do it.

You're saying all the wrong things. We've already moved on. You should too. 

[in it for the lolz]

McFlurry598 wrote...

SvM madman wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

 Liara. Liara. Liara. Liara. Liara. Liara. Liara.

Just romance Liara. You won't need any advice then.

Aside form "why should I romance Liara?"

It's more like, why wouldn't you romance Liara?

Because it's a dirty Xenos scum.

[jtav]

I think the best way to think of romance is: who complements the story you are telling with Shepard? If I'm planning on making peace on Rannoch and choosing Synthesis, I'd probably romance Tali because those maskless quarians have extra resonance. A Thanemancer is going to die at the end. And so on.

[The___Baron]

TheWerdna wrote...

Hey guys, I have an idea... lets not start a another Geth vs Quarians debate in a thread THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Nor should we be arguing about love interests who are NOT Tali or Ashley. The OP Specifically asked about who to choose between those two. If you want to debate the other love interests, make another thread to do it.

Gota got with Tali.

In mass effect 1 when you start a relationship Liara shes like "I thought there was something between you and ash"

What? The only time I ever even talk to her is when your forced to on Eden prime. 

It's like they subtley tried to force you into romancing her like the do with Liara in 2&3 although I suppose with Liara it was really subtle what with the whole I couldn't let you go so I went and retrived your body for cerberus for the chance to get you back, and then her time capsules in Mass effect 3. 

I always lean slightly towards tali in the tie with liara simply becuase the game doesn't try to force it. 

Modifié par The___Baron, 01 septembre 2013 - 04:59 .

[N7lightingWarrior]

TheWerdna wrote...

Hey guys, I have an idea... lets not start a another Geth vs Quarians debate in a thread THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Nor should we be arguing about love interests who are NOT Tali or Ashley. The OP Specifically asked about who to choose between those two. If you want to debate the other love interests, make another thread to do it.

Ashley is good, but I'd rather TALI!!

[TheWerdna]

jtav wrote...

I think the best way to think of romance is: who complements the story you are telling with Shepard? If I'm planning on making peace on Rannoch and choosing Synthesis, I'd probably romance Tali because those maskless quarians have extra resonance. A Thanemancer is going to die at the end. And so on.

Destroy ending also works well with the Talimance, mainly due to the heartbreaking scene where she beggs you to come back alive.  So its either kill the geth, or make Tali really really really sad.... *shoots the red tube*

[Br3admax]

Go with Ashley. Ash is worth it.

Really, though, I would just load up ME2, dump Tali like last week's leftovers, and go back to Ashley. Problem solved. You feel kind of jerkish afterwards, but hey, she shouldn't have encouraged you to, amirite?

[AlexMBrennan]

Tali is one of, if not the most popular romance in the series.

You sure are fond of saying that.