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[The___Baron]

Steelcan wrote...

The___Baron wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

jtav wrote...

By the standards of the 'verse, the geth are as alive as the quarians

Not really. 

Actually, yes. There really is nothing in the ME 'verse to say that organics are any more alive than synthetics (or vice versa).

Besides their inability to understand anything about us?

Doesn't seem to be hampering EDI's ability to coexist with the Normandys crew

She's equipment not crew

The crew are pets

[SvM madman]

Abraham_uk wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Define a living being.

Can of worms. Sorry, but this is actually a debate that has been raged over for centuries.

So let me just quote this site.
This is not a perfect definition since it doesn't cover synthetics, but it will do.

Syntheics aren't alive though

[Steelcan]

The___Baron wrote...

The crew are pets

the crew are people

Modifié par Steelcan, 01 septembre 2013 - 07:54 .

[The___Baron]

Steelcan wrote...

The___Baron wrote...

The crew are pets

the crew are people

The crew are nothing more then genetic mutations an accident.

[David7204]

When I see people declare that Synthetics are not alive, I always have to wonder whether they mean just Synthetics in Mass Effect, or Synthetics in all fiction and sooner or later, real life.

If it's just Mass Effect, that just means they're stupid and very obviously letting their dislike or Synthetics influence their judgement on whether they're alive or not. You ever notice you never see people admitting Synthetics are alive but also disliking them?

And if they think Synthetics are not alive in all fiction or real life, period, that makes we wonder what they're doing spending time with science fiction in the first place.

Modifié par David7204, 01 septembre 2013 - 08:04 .

[David7204]

StreetMagic wrote...

If I knew Geth felt pain, this would be an easier issue to resolve for me. Life and death are another subject altgother. Pain is where it's really at.

BSG managed to make me sympathize with the synthetics a lot because of that.

People who don't and have never felt pain are not alive, then?

[The___Baron]

David7204 wrote...

When I see people declare that Synthetics are not alive, I always have to wonder whether they mean just Synthetics in Mass Effect, or Synthetics in all fiction and sooner or later, real life.

It's only a matter of time until Humans manage to create Artifical Intelligences to do jobs that they dont' want to do or for the sheer convinece of them being able to process things far faster then human brains will ever be capable of and it's rather obvious when it comes to some peoples attitudes how that will inevitably play out for us. 

Modifié par The___Baron, 01 septembre 2013 - 08:05 .

[David7204]

And how it will it inevitably play out for us?

[RatThing]

StreetMagic wrote...

If I knew Geth felt pain, this would be an easier issue to resolve for me. Life and death are another subject altgother. Pain is where it's really at.

BSG managed to make me sympathize with the synthetics a lot because of that.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/15567309

If I understand this correctly they`re not supposed to have any emotions at all. Plus pain is evolutions tool to let you avoid harmful situations to your body. Why should software, created outside the evolutionary process have it.

[His Name was HYR!!]

 Having girl problems, OP?

If I may, I find Ashley-->Tali a rather strange shift. I can understand the other two: Ash-->Jack... you like the "wild" ones; Ash-->Miri... you like the no-nonsense, professional type. Ash-->Tali baffles me a bit; they could hardly be more different.

In reading your post, it sounds to me like your heart is pointing you back to Ash over Tali, if ever-so-slightly. So I say, go back to Ash; you'll be happier with it that way. Now, if this were a real life matter, I'd be singing a very different tune. It isn't, though. It's fantasy, and you can have it your way here. It happens to work out okay for Tali in the end, if you're not already aware.

[Elite Midget]

Tali is a fling, Liara is a stalker, Miranda is fake, and Jack needs no man.

Ashley was always the one.

[NeonFlux117]

This platforms canon romance is with Lawson Miranda.

But we have data that Creator Tali's Romance is very rich in knowledge and Intel and it has a lot of 'soul' something this unit would like to have.

[TheWerdna]

Guys, seriously, can we not derail yet another thread with the freaken quarian vs geth debate?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Elite Midget wrote...

Tali is a fling, Liara is a stalker, Miranda is fake, and Jack needs no man.

Ashley was always the one.

How is Miranda fake? How is Tali a fling? Why does Jack need no man?

Why is Ashley the one? Unless you mean 'the one I should have left on Virmire' as my Shepard believes.

[Elite Midget]

Your Shepard would kill people on your team because you want to shag someone else? Kinda sad and not commander material at all.

StreetMagic wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

I'll always go with Tali myself, but its really up to you. If you honestly really want to go back to Ashley then do that, just make sure you break up with Tali when you meet back up with her, she takes it pretty well.

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 Having girl problems, OP?

If I may, I find Ashley-->Tali a rather strange shift. I can understand the other two: Ash-->Jack... you like the "wild" ones; Ash-->Miri... you like the no-nonsense, professional type. Ash-->Tali baffles me a bit; they could hardly be more different.

I got ninjamanced by Ashley in the first game before going on to Tali. I don't even remember talking about sex, or even being in a relationship for that matter.

You basically have to pull rank on her to not get romanced. That or make fun of her grandpa after Udina locks down the Normandy.

Never said I was. Making such assumptions because you don't like Ashley. You should be ashamed.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 01 septembre 2013 - 09:35 .

[AlanC9]

StreetMagic wrote...

You basically have to pull rank on her to not get romanced. That or make fun of her grandpa after Udina locks down the Normandy.

Hitting on Liara also works.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Okay are we in a waifu wars thread or is this a synthetics vs organics debate?

[Br3admax]

Steelcan wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

So, how 'bout those Raloi? We should totally have a Raloi squad member for ME4.

Raloi for LI, anyone who says otherwise is a filthy bigot

I'm going to assume this is a joke.  

Yeah I like when people make statements like this one pointed out in this asssumed joke. Because if you aren't attracted to something, you must hate it. If you aren't attracted to a different race, you're racist, and it you aren't attracted to a different sex, you're homophobic. That's how the world works apparently.