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[KainD]

SmokePants wrote...

This is why I don't play mages, I guess. The robes and staves were trope-y enough.

There is this very old game called Hellgate London, and it's a pretty boring and crappy game, but the way they designed mages was one of the best I have ever seen. Cool armors + fast and muscle like spell casts like you described:

[cactusberry]

KainD wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

This is why I don't play mages, I guess. The robes and staves were trope-y enough.

There is this very old game called Hellgate London, and it's a pretty boring and crappy game, but the way they designed mages was one of the best I have ever seen. Cool armors + fast and muscle like spell casts like you described:

That mage looks really cool.

[mupp3tz]

I also tend to not use mages because I find robes and staves boring. I could deal with it if we were stuck with the staff, but got some cool light armor like in the above picture.

[DarthLaxian]

Nerevar-as wrote...

bandcandy wrote...

It's awesome, not silly. This is why we can't have nice things.

And while the mage looked at the book and casted the spell everybody stood around watching<_<

And what about FF? The meteor shower didn´t seem to have. I hope they don´t repeat DAII with its combat ajusted to no FF.

no FF is cool (it is magic after all - why should something that is intent driven not be able to be used next to your allies, if you don't intend them harm (do you like harming your own party? - seems somewhat sadistic to me!)

greetings LAX

[DarthLaxian]

TheDarkRats wrote...

KainD wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

This is why I don't play mages, I guess. The robes and staves were trope-y enough.

There is this very old game called Hellgate London, and it's a pretty boring and crappy game, but the way they designed mages was one of the best I have ever seen. Cool armors + fast and muscle like spell casts like you described:

That mage looks really cool.

agreed - not that i hate staves (as long as they look ok - not like those ugly things in DA2...) but i like variable mages (meaning: different weapons (like that book, orbs, wands, special-gloves - or even no weapons at all (magic should never be tied to a focusing object IMHO) and being able to move (while chanting somehing longer, no standing around vulnerably for enemies to shoot at (or attack otherwise)...)

greetings LAX

[Fredward]

That spellbook looks magnificently dope.

[Nerevar-as]

LindsayLohan wrote...

I guess people were not fan of playing a wizard in D&D? Or you just don't like the book thing in general?

D&D didn´t cast spells directly from the book, in the middle of a fight. You had to learn the spells before going into battle - reason I liked sorcerers more than wizards, less spells but all available instead of maybe finding yourself with no valid spell in a given situation.

[Direwolf0294]

I thought it looked a bit stupid, but the way it was used makes me think it's some sort of active spell, which is okay because it means you don't always have to use it.

[Lady Mortho]

That book holds incantations of dark magic beyond any simply mage.

[Nerevar-as]

LindsayLohan wrote...

In all retrospect I doubt if the system is even remotely similar to the D&D scheme. I think it is just an animation convenience one of the "sustained" abilities. I never really liked wizards anyway haha.

Wizards are usually my favorite class, but so far DA ones just didn´t click. I liked much more HN immersion in the story, or FCE origin itself. About DA2, I tried, but my suspension of disbelief gave up early on Act 2. Let´s see if this one works.

[Jackums]

I imagine it's completely optional. As we saw when Vivienne was casting various spells in the demo, there was no book in any of her animations. I'm guessing it's some sort of off-hand weapon for mages.

[Alejandrawrr]

I definitely agree that it looks like a Spell Wisp-y sustained ability, probably takes it's place.

[Zetheria Tabris]

It is very silly, yes. And can someone please tell me how it's smart, logical, or tactical to start reading a book while in the middle of fight. I'm curious.

[Ecmoose]

I don't understand all the desire to have mages be more warrioresque with "more muscly" spells and armor instead of robes.

Mages spend their whole lives in the circle studying. A rare few get to leave to assist in issues throughout the land, but they don't prepare themselves for battle constantly. They're scholars.

No, reading a book in battle isn't particularly safe, but that's why mages aren't frontline fighters. Warriors and rogues hold the line while the mage prepares a strong spell to wipe out the opposition. Sure it's a bit cliche, but doing something the traditional way doesn't make it bad.

[KiwiQuiche]

I hope we can beat people with it. Or taunt Cass with it.

[devSin]

Not a fan of the book. I thought it looked stupid.

[LanceSolous13]

KainD wrote...

Obligotory staff just wasn't enough huh? I just... why?? How does a book help to channel energies of the fade? 

Well, we don't know the entire context of the book. Its certainly a large jump from DA:O and DAII's simply pointing staves at things and FLAME ON!

I'll assume we'd get info about it like we eventually will about how Red Lyrium is not a common enough thing to have Red Templars.

[Medhia Nox]

@Ecmoose: To be fair - these mages are the super-hero type. Not really the learned type - no matter how many books we see in the Ferelden Circle Tower.

Evidently - all those books are for dwarven female non-mages.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 02 septembre 2013 - 03:37 .

[Zetheria Tabris]

Ecmoose wrote...

No, reading a book in battle isn't particularly safe, but that's why mages aren't frontline fighters. Warriors and rogues hold the line while the mage prepares a strong spell to wipe out the opposition. Sure it's a bit cliche, but doing something the traditional way doesn't make it bad.

Mages aren't frontliners, no, but they aren't miles away from the battle either. It's incredibly stupid to have them take out a book, take the time to levitate it, and read it before casting a spell while fighting. If anything, this should be done while in a safe environment, while learning a skill, similar to the skill tomes in Origins.

[Dhiro]

Looking at some videos, it seems like an enemy Enchanter was using the spellbook. I wonder if it's something only enemies can use or if we can acquire it through specialization or spell.