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[Naxela625]

I am a high level mage with Tier 3 frost spells. Is blizzard worth one of my few remaining spell allotments?

[Tor_pedo]

if you have tempest and spell might, sure!

[Naxela625]

No i dont

and there is no way i will be able to this late in the file

[Tor_pedo]

Well, then, depending on grp setup i guess. It is a great aoe and ****, having your mages and archers hurl their **** at the enemy while all it can do is slip and fall and get frozen and ****. If dealing with ranged enemies and with a melee setup, then, not so much, except for the obvious reasons of using LOS and ****. Tempest, inferno and bliz are all great for flanking enemies and ****.

**** = Sh*t Yes, all of them.

Modifié par Tor_pedo, 19 janvier 2010 - 04:04 .

[YooperLaw]

I think having at least one of the AOE element spells is worth having, not really sure it matters which one. Two distinct examples come to mind. Not sure if you've beat the game already so I'll put it below:


*Potential Spoilers*



The best example I can think of is against the Archdemon. In "Stage 2" he'll fly over to a platform that you can't reach. At the same time Darkspawn start spawning all over the place while the Archdemon rains down spirit fireballs from above. What I did with my Mage is use the AOE spell and place it on the Archdemon's platform. I usually get two full payoffs which lower his health a little bit - not a huge amount but it speeds up how long it takes to begin "Stage 3" and thus saves a lot of headaches.

The other time is going up against the ambush after rescuing Anora. After luring the badass Ser Cautherin away from the main gate I use a Mage to cast AOE spells on the archers (who don't move) and that will clean them up nicely.

[Naxela625]

Already have death cloud and blood wound as AOE spells

[mr weeman]

Death Hex maybe? Just for the Entropic Fun. That is, of course, if you have the hex line.

[Mr_Raider]

PC version post 1.02 is not worth it. The damage is weak and the freeze effect is too short. Plus it's a very dangerous spell to have your party run through.

[Sidney]

YooperLaw wrote...

I think having at least one of the AOE element spells is worth having, not really sure it matters which one. Two distinct examples come to mind. Not sure if you've beat the game already so I'll put it below:

You need one artillery spell and for me Inferno is the best of breed but if you are already up the cold tree then Blizzard will work. It does less damage but the freeze and knockdown effect balances that out.

[CptPatch]

As an AoE spell, I think it's a toss up between Blizzard and Inferno for being the best. Blizzard not only inflicts damage every second, there's a decent chance for

1) enemies being knocked down (thus not doing _anything_ AND spending more time in the AoE, taking more damage, and

2) being frozen, as by a Winter's Grasp spell (taking MORE damage)



You can get Tempest at a lower level, but it doesn't do nearly as much damage overall.

[ArathWoeeye]

It has its uses. Knocking down enemies is good enough by itself. I had inferno and blizz on my warden mage and eartquake on wynne. Since quake is insta-cast, I'd start with it, while my warden starts casting blizz. when both are online, the enemies just can't move, where inferno keeps burning them... and fireballs later. My other dps was archer leliana, so she had no problems. I held Alistair back near them to hold any survivors.

[stribies]

If you're doing fine without it, there's not much point in getting it. The damage really is weak like said earlier in this thread. And you definitely don't want to be hit by your own blizzard since it freezes you every so often.

For me, it was extremely useful on my first playthrough early on when I didn't know what I was doing. I used it mainly for pulls or try to paralyze and throw down blizzard on top of some ranged mobs.

Modifié par stribies, 19 janvier 2010 - 06:08 .

[JBurke]

Blood Wound (or Mass Paralysis), Virulent Walking Bomb and concentrated fire (usually a Fireball and whatever else I can toss) on the bomb always worked wonders for me. Very simple and quick.

[RangerSG]

Heh, for a "weak" damage spell, I sure can leave enough groups of enemies completely dead just by casting it and walking back around the corner. And yes, I play on PC. Most of your goon-level opponents will be immobilized, and knocked down.



And that's without mentioning Storm of the Century, which I have yet to see anything that wasn't red-rated survive.

[Girl Goblin]

I think Blizzard is excellent for crowd control. However, it's really a matter of taste, so you can feel free to take something else. There are lots of ways to play successfully.

[KilrB]

It is SO worth it.



Even without complimentary spells you would be foolish not to take it.



It is the best single spell AoE/CC in the game.

[Akimb0]

I got Blizzard early and I think it's a pretty poor spell. Cone of Cold is working far better for me.

(Despite the chill/knockdown, they just run out of it before it does anything significant. Unless I cast it at long range or on ranged enemies.)

Modifié par Akimb0, 19 janvier 2010 - 03:07 .

[david46]

Put your group on hold have your mage prepare to cast blizzard in the next room. Have the mage step in to trigger combat and click to start the spell. Step back out and watch the fun.

[Kaoschizm]

I don't really get what's so great about blizzard, it maybe because I've only just picked up the game and I'm running 1.02 but the damage is just so poor it's almost not worth mentioning, I have earthquake as well and basically quake does the same thing but it's instant cast and cheaper. That said, I've found neither blizzard or quake compare to the godlike mass paralysis that you get from using the glyph combo - if you have two mages you can cast warding with one and paralysis with another and insta-freeze a large group of enemies - then you can do what you like with them.



I suppose storm of the century will be useful when I eventually get spell might.

[MagiST]

It's true, the glyph combo (next best thing to time stop) is a superior cc spell compared to blizzard even if you consider that blizzard does damage. You can get by super fine with just the glyph combo and a damage aoe. The question is whether you have both a mass cc spell and mass damage spell (mass disable and mass kill). Blizzard can mass disable but it will rarely mass kill on it's own (for instance undead are immune to cold damage); which means either you shoot them to death or have a mass damage spell. If you already have a mass disable mass damage solution then blizzard might not be worth it... to many goodies in the spell trees to give up.

[Kaoschizm]

MagiST wrote...

It's true, the glyph combo (next best thing to time stop) ....

Mmmm time stop.... I really miss that spell - it was so funny when you were playing online and the entire world stop every time a mage used time stop.

[daddytat]

I cast blizzard on myself so any enemy foolish enough to come after me gets constant damage. Works good w/ mindblast and bloodwound.

[soteria]

I got Blizzard early and I think it's a pretty poor spell. Cone of Cold is working far better for me.



(Despite the chill/knockdown, they just run out of it before it does anything significant. Unless I cast it at long range or on ranged enemies.)

Couldn't you say that about every primal aoe, but even more so? Who sits in an inferno...? Difference is, if you cast it on a group of archers they'll die and be disabled in the meantime. I really don't get people who say the damage is pathetic. On nightmare, I rarely see anything (white) survive a blizzard, and if they do, it's not by much.

[SusanStoHelit]

Yeah, blizzard works fine for me. And I even survive it pretty well, I just always give my guys some cold resist stuff - if not I keep them out of it.

[LarryFine]

It depends. If you have tempest then blizzard can be worth it. I killed the revenanat in the ruins with the blizzard/tempest combo only. By the time my pc tank ran through the storm the revenant was almost dead and so busy running back and forth he never even attacked me. I didn't even factor spell might into it. If there are mobs that are confined to a relatively small space this combo is deadly.



If you don't have the means to make the combo then I don't know if blizzard as a stand alone is worth the investment.