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[Lenimph]

Mr.House wrote...

You do know Thane does not give you the romance achievment in ME3 yes? Thane has a very awkward kiss scene that makes no sense and a half assed hospital scene that again was poor which makes Allers romance look great, and Thanemancers do not get the romance achievment.Even the writers admitted they forogt he was a proper romance.

 

So he gives one in the 2nd game. 

And I was actually satisfied with his hospital death scene which is in no way comparable to the Allers romance.   Are we really measuring a character by the achievements he gives. Seriously... 

I will never understand Thanemancers ok. I just never will.   I am not arguing that straight femshep did not get screwed over because she totally did and I have whined about that even before Mass Effect 3 even came out to begin with.    It was half the reason I never even wanted to buy the series to begin with. 

Modifié par Lenimph, 02 septembre 2013 - 01:47 .

[Isaidlunch]

bobobo878 wrote...

I don't really care, as long as there is a desire demon Companion/LI, I'm willing to roleplay whatever gender is necessary to make that happen.

Dear lord your avatar what

I actually think a desire demon romance would be amazing if it was pulled off well. I'd kill to see the reactions on the BSN if it wasn't revealed until the end of the game.

[d-boy15]

great... I start a pointless troll debate because people completely miss my point.

Modifié par d-boy15, 02 septembre 2013 - 01:48 .

[Lenimph]

d-boy15 wrote...

great... now I start a pointless war because people completely miss my point.

 

Welcome to the bsn? 
 
Here have some cake

Modifié par Lenimph, 02 septembre 2013 - 01:49 .

[Mr.House]

Lenimph wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

You do know Thane does not give you the romance achievment in ME3 yes? Thane has a very awkward kiss scene that makes no sense and a half assed hospital scene that again was poor which makes Allers romance look great, and Thanemancers do not get the romance achievment.Even the writers admitted they forogt he was a proper romance.

 

So he gives one in the 2nd game. 

And I was actually satisfied with his hospital death scene which is in no way comparable to the Allers romance.   Are we really measuring a character by the achievements he gives. Seriously... 

I will never understand Thanemancers ok. I just never will.   I am not arguing that straight femshep did not get screwed over because she totally did and I have whined about that even before Mass Effect 3 even came out to begin with.    It was half the reason I never even wanted to buy the series to begin with. 

I'm not a Thanemancer though.

[Inquisitor Recon]

sandalisthemaker wrote...
No. Your comment targeted sexuality.  You imply that since gays make up a tiny fraction of the population, they should just settle for less and be greatful with less.  Easy for you to say this since the shoe is not on the other foot. 
And yes. You indeed are a troll when it comes to romance/sexuality threads.  Billy is here.  I'm just waiting for Volus and Enigmatik now.

Naturally anybody who disagrees with you or angers you is some sort of troll. Surely all "reasonable" people would agree with you, right? Settle for less? Do you apply this sort of logic to the real world as well? Should the human race conform to some sort of equal ratio or all be bisexual? Personally I thought DA:O handled the matter of providing different options to the PC well, I just find it laughable when people claim it was "unfair".

Mr.House wrote...
Except ypu can romance a radical mage while also being a big supporter of the Templars.

And that should not be the case either. If they're going to bother with the romances they should involve more than just selecting the nice dialogue option when you talk to these NPCs. Crazy radical mage NPC should loathe superior Templar supporting PC.

Modifié par Inquisitor Recon, 02 septembre 2013 - 01:53 .

[Zjarcal]

Lenimph wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

You do know Thane does not give you the romance achievment in ME3 yes? Thane has a very awkward kiss scene that makes no sense and a half assed hospital scene that again was poor which makes Allers romance look great, and Thanemancers do not get the romance achievment.Even the writers admitted they forogt he was a proper romance.

 

So he gives one in the 2nd game. 

And I was actually satisfied with his hospital death scene which is in no way comparable to the Allers romance.   Are we really measuring a character by the achievements he gives. Seriously... 

I will never understand Thanemancers ok. I just never will. 

^

[Lenimph]

Mr.House wrote...

I'm not a Thanemancer though.

 

I never said you were? 

[ObserverStatus]

Kazanth wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
I don't really care, as long as there is a desire demon Companion/LI, I'm willing to roleplay whatever gender is necessary to make that happen.

I actually think a desire demon romance would be amazing if it was pulled off well. I'd kill to see the reactions on the BSN if it wasn't revealed until the end of the game.

I thought that one of the best things about Morinth in ME2 is that sleeping with her is one of the few choices in the game with serious and immediate consequences for the player. Personally I think it would be great if Bioware included far more choices in their games that immediately and severely punish the player for plainly bad decisions, and there are a lot of fun ways desire demons could play a role in this formula. Sure, most players will just reload, but having to deal with the consequences of such choices would make for an interesting roleplaying experience.

Modifié par bobobo878, 02 septembre 2013 - 01:54 .

[Mr.House]

Lenimph wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

I'm not a Thanemancer though.

 

I never said you were? 

Wait, my bad, misread a part. Ugh I'm gonig to play SR4, and expect Z to now trolololo me on steam.

[TheBlackBaron]

[sandalisthemaker]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...
No. Your comment targeted sexuality.  You imply that since gays make up a tiny fraction of the population, they should just settle for less and be greatful with less.  Easy for you to say this since the shoe is not on the other foot. 
And yes. You indeed are a troll when it comes to romance/sexuality threads.  Billy is here.  I'm just waiting for Volus and Enigmatik now.

Naturally anybody who disagrees with you or angers you is some sort of troll. Surely all "reasonable" people would agree with you, right? Settle for less? Do you apply this sort of logic to the real world as well? Should the human race conform to some sort of equal ratio or all be bisexual? Personally I thought DA:O handled the matter of providing different options to the PC well, I just find it laughable when people claim it was "unfair".

This is a game.
Not the real world.
It does not have to reflect the real world.
And people shouldn't have to deal with limited romance content for playing a gay character when in the real world they have to deal with prejudice for being gay. 

[daveliam]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...


Naturally anybody who disagrees with you or angers you is some sort of troll. Surely all "reasonable" people would agree with you, right? Settle for less? Do you apply this sort of logic to the real world as well? Should the human race conform to some sort of equal ratio or all be bisexual? Personally I thought DA:O handled the matter of providing different options to the PC well, I just find it laughable when people claim it was "unfair".
 if

Can you answer this single question for me?  What choice did I have if I wanted to romance a male as a male in DA: O?  I could romance Zevran or....... (fill in the blank)

THIS is why it wasn't fair.

[Inquisitor Recon]

sandalisthemaker wrote...
This is a game.
Not the real world.
It does not have to reflect the real world.
And people shouldn't have to deal with limited romance content for playing a gay character when in the real world they have to deal with prejudice for being gay. 

So a NPC being straight (or gay I presume) means limited romance content?

Hey, my warrior can't use magic, I'm suffering from limited mage content, Biower pls fix 'cause prejudice and stuff.

[ObserverStatus]

Lenimph wrote...

eluvianix wrote...
To be fair, Justice turned to Vengeance. Why can't Desire turn to Compassion or outright Love?

 
I was referencing Bo's love for Morinth... 

You were? Oh, I thought you meant Shuu.

[2Pac]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...
Because it's not equal.

Would you be okay with only one romance option for the sexuality you like your character to be (which also reflects your real life sexuality perhaps) knowing that other people get to have more?  

Equal? When viewed in regards to percentages of the population it is more than fair.

Nice try troll.

A gay player should not have his/her content limited simply because they want to make a character that reflects who they are in the real world. 

Exactly I wanted to have a relationship with Bethany in DA2, BioWare wouldn't let me, they're such bigots.

You trolls must have a hive mind or something.  Either that or you coordinate your attacks.

No, I can't throw a proverbial ball 10 feet without hitting one kind of weird deviant or another, you chaps give me so much to work with I'm almost spoiled for choice. I don't even have to troll, the twisted logic that passes for sense here does the work for me.

A weird deviant eh?
At least you are being honest with your intent now.  I'll giv e you that much.

I know, my bigotry and privilege knows no bounds!

People who petition for Qunari Love interests repeatedly, trying to work out what Tali's sweat tastes like, people who think if there is no dwarf LI then there is a racist agenda at work, and the ones who demand all things should be bangable, including mailboxes, are all just special people. 

I won't deny my love of deviants, sorry special people, they make this place more interesting.

Don't try to twist things around.  Look at this post pyramid.  Homosexuality is the subject at hand.  Not Qunari or Tali romance.
Now look at your "deviant " comment again.

You've been reported btw.

:innocent:

[sandalisthemaker]

daveliam wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...


Naturally anybody who disagrees with you or angers you is some sort of troll. Surely all "reasonable" people would agree with you, right? Settle for less? Do you apply this sort of logic to the real world as well? Should the human race conform to some sort of equal ratio or all be bisexual? Personally I thought DA:O handled the matter of providing different options to the PC well, I just find it laughable when people claim it was "unfair".
 if

Can you answer this single question for me?  What choice did I have if I wanted to romance a male as a male in DA: O?  I could romance Zevran or....... (fill in the blank)

THIS is why it wasn't fair.

Their posts speak for themselves, yet they try to dance around the issue.
Gays are a minority so they should have less and be happy about it.  That's exactly what Recon said in his other post.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 02 septembre 2013 - 02:00 .

[Potato Cat]

Why is terrorism in the report list?!

[canarius]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

They should have a troll LI that will always prefer the opposite sex of your PC. And then you can spend the rest of the game lusting after them to no avail.

Traynor was definitely a troll to male Shepard. And Bioware took that trolling to a whole new level with the bathtub scene in the Citadel DLC.

[Seboist]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

And people shouldn't have to deal with limited romance content for playing a gay character when in the real world they have to deal with prejudice for being gay. 

This is a luxury item that revolves around supply and demand and not about correcting whatever perceived wrong in one's personal life and their particular need for specific ****** material.

[LanceSolous13]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

ME3, only more equal.

2 straight, 2 bi and 2 ******.

Of course, this is my opinion.

Actually, that's not entirely correct.

Male Shepard has 7 (6 per game due to Kaidan/Ashley) Love Interests (9 if you count Kelly and Diana, but I don't really); 5 (4) are heterosexual and 2 (1) are homosexual. However, 3 of those love interests (4 if you count Kelly) required the romance path with them to have been taken in the previous game, leaving Shepard with 4 (or 3) love interests regardless of past choices.

It gets pretty bad when you look at Female Shepard, however....

Female Shepard has 4 (3 if Kaidan is dead) Love Interests (6 if you add in Diana and Kelly); 2 (1) are heterosexual and 2 are homosexual. Diana and Kelly bring that homosexual number up to 4 if added in. On top of that, the two heterosexual romances can be completely lost due to Kaidan's death in either ME1 or ME3, or if you didn't romance Garrus in ME2/Garrus died in ME2. So, regardless of past choice, I have 2 romance interests and BOTH are homosexual ones.

Now, let's say that I have a Fem!Shepard, Kaidan died on Vermire or died in ME3, and I romanced either Thane or Jacob in ME2. When ME3 comes around, I am completely locked out of Heterosexual romances. I have nothing wrong with homosexual romances (I'm actually pan), but its rather sad that there are no heterosexual options added into the third game of the series. Particularly since James Vega was even advertised in an interview or two as a Bi-LI.

TL;DR, No, I don't want the DA:I romances to be like ME3 because ME3 catered far more to Male PCs over Female ones. I would much prefer the romances to be nicely balanced between homosexual, heterosexual, and bisexual/pansexual/etc love interests.

[slimgrin]

RussianSpy27 wrote...

Why should every party member be BI? DA:O depicted a realistic scenario - some straight people, some BI , hell it should have also included Lesbian/Gay characters too - that is how life is.

Crazy talk. 

[WildOrchid]

facepalming so hard at some comments.

[Inquisitor Recon]

daveliam wrote...
Can you answer this single question for me?  What choice did I have if I wanted to romance a male as a male in DA: O?  I could romance Zevran or....... (fill in the blank)

THIS is why it wasn't fair.

Well if you wanted to romance Alistair, (the only other male romance option) you could have always created a female PC, or downloaded a mod. Maker forbid any NPC be straight, how dare those hateful NPCs not be interested in people of the same gender.

[Hellion Rex]

WildOrchid wrote...

facepalming so hard at some comments.

I have taken to drinking for every dumb one.