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[In Exile]

Reading PAX related comments, someone mentioned that the elven mage will be dalish. I doubt we'd get confirmation this early in the game, but if we want to be elven, will we be forced into being a dalish elf? Although I know this isn't the case for most, it would significantly dampen my enthusiasm for playing an elf if I'm forced to be a dalish elf. 

[Potato Cat]

I know, especially if they stick to the accent lore. I would HATE to have an Irish accent. Then again I'd love a Welsh accent, but I know Welsh VAs are harder to find.

[The Elder King]

I think they might make the mage elf dalish and the warrior/rogue city elf, since they were talking about making different backgrounds for each mage class.

[Phate Phoenix]

It would make sense, and give the elf mage and human mage noticeably different backgrounds. In DAO, wasn't a lot of the "HEY YOU ARE AN ELF" things overwritten by "HEY YOU ARE A MAGE"? This might be their work-around.

Also, Dalish is my favorite Origin, so I'm not too bothered if this is the case.

[Angrywolves]

uh no.

[In Exile]

hhh89 wrote...

I think they might make the mage elf dalish and the warrior/rogue city elf, since they were talking about making different backgrounds for each mage class.

I'd be happy that, because I will play every class anyway. I just want to get to be a CE - I'm happy to stick with human and Kossith for mages. 

[thats1evildude]

But if I'm a Dalish elf, won't it seem weird when I inevitably slaughter them all?

[Ianamus]

It depends on whether different races will be receiving different VO's. If they are then we will almost certainly be a Dalish elf no matter our class, to match the voice.

It doesn't really bother me. I would rather be a city elf, but we get to define our character's so It won't be like we are forced to be anti-human or anything. I also don't think I've ever seen a customisable protagonist have the option of having a welsh voice before. It's an interesting prospect. 

Modifié par EJ107, 02 septembre 2013 - 12:39 .

[Potato Cat]

hhh89 wrote...

I think they might make the mage elf dalish and the warrior/rogue city elf, since they were talking about making different backgrounds for each mage class.

I would much prefer this honestly.

[Nyneve]

Welsh VA yes please. But...I really want to play as an elven circle mage too :/

edit: scrap that i'm playing elf surpremacist inquisitor

Modifié par Nyneve, 02 septembre 2013 - 12:44 .

[In Exile]

EJ107 wrote...
It doesn't really bother me. I would rather be a city elf, but we get to define our character's so It won't be like we are forced to be anti-human or anything. I also don't think I've ever seen a customisable protagonist have the option of having a welsh voice before. It's an interesting prospect. 

I find it very hard to create a character that grows up in a racist society and entirely disavows their racist views. I don't want to create an elven supremacist, but that's what the Dalish are. 

[Shadow Fox]

In Exile wrote...

EJ107 wrote...
It doesn't really bother me. I would rather be a city elf, but we get to define our character's so It won't be like we are forced to be anti-human or anything. I also don't think I've ever seen a customisable protagonist have the option of having a welsh voice before. It's an interesting prospect. 

I find it very hard to create a character that grows up in a racist society and entirely disavows their racist views. I don't want to create an elven supremacist, but that's what the Dalish are. 

Well you could be the oddball in the Dalish Origin in Origins.

[Ianamus]

In Exile wrote...

EJ107 wrote...
It doesn't really bother me. I would rather be a city elf, but we get to define our character's so It won't be like we are forced to be anti-human or anything. I also don't think I've ever seen a customisable protagonist have the option of having a welsh voice before. It's an interesting prospect. 

I find it very hard to create a character that grows up in a racist society and entirely disavows their racist views. I don't want to create an elven supremacist, but that's what the Dalish are. 

Well, we played a human in Dragon Age 2, who has grown up in a racist society, and seems to be able to disavow their racist views or never had them. 

I don't know, it seems to be down to the dalish elf in question. Some are very racist, others like Marethari or Merrill don't seem to be very racist at all. You could roleplay your Elf similar to Merrill: One who ends up being disillusioned by the Dalish after seing their society from a fresh perspective. 

Perhaps your elf was saved by a human in the past, or had a similar experience which gives them a different persepctive of the human race. The joy of more vague backgrounds is that you can fill in the gaps to justify why your charcter behaves the way you want them to. 

Modifié par EJ107, 02 septembre 2013 - 12:53 .

[Mecha Elf]

I willb be SOOO dissapointed with bioware if we are forced to be dalish. Not everyone likes playing as a dalish and not everyone likes playing as a city elf. Please bioware do not force this backround.

[In Exile]

EJ107 wrote...
Well, we played a human in Dragon Age 2, who has grown up in a racist society, and seems to be able to disavow their racist views or never had them.

But Hawke doesn't grow up racist. 

I don't know, it seems to be down to the dalish elf in question. Some are very racist, others like Marethari or Merrill don't seem to be very racist at all. You could roleplay your Elf similar to Merrill: One who ends up being disillusioned by the Dalish after seing their society from a fresh perspective.  

Merril ferverntly believes in Dalish views about the elves. She believes they were once immortal, in their gods, etc. That's not the kind of elf I want to play.

Perhaps your elf was saved by a human in the past, or had a similar experience which gives them a different persepctive of the human race. The joy of more vague backgrounds is that you can fill in the gaps to justify why your charcter behaves the way you want them to.  

The "joy" of a vague background is finding out 5 hours into the game that you've been railroaded because the developers assumed things about you they negelcted to tell you, like KoTOR 2. 

[Ianamus]

In Exile wrote...

Merril ferverntly believes in Dalish views about the elves. She believes they were once immortal, in their gods, etc. That's not the kind of elf I want to play.

You can play a human who, despite growing up in a society where you are constantly told about the maker and Andraste, can be skeptical about his existence. I don't see why you couldn't be an elf who has similar skepticism.

Also, I don't think Merrill is a very strong believer in all of that, or at least it was never specified. She said in one conversation with Sebastian "Your Maker is just a story you use to explain this world. We have our own stories, we don't need yours". It seems vague if she fully believes those stories are true. 

I wasn't talking about her religious views anyway. Just how she grew to dislike her clan and, if you take the rivalry path, dalish in general. 

In Exile wrote...

The "joy" of a vague background is finding out 5 hours into the game that you've been railroaded because the developers assumed things about you they negelcted to tell you, like KoTOR 2. 

I can't remember much about KoTOR 2 at all, so I don't know what your referring to. I was merely giving you suggestions as to why your Dalish PC may not hold racist views. The idea of one who has had positive experiences with humans in the past is a good example of how you could play one who doesn't hold some of the Dalish's views. My Dalish Elf in Origins got along with humans just fine, and held relatively lax views even in her Origin segment. 

Modifié par EJ107, 02 septembre 2013 - 01:15 .

[Potato Cat]

Nyneve wrote...

Welsh VA yes please. But...I really want to play as an elven circle mage too :/

edit: scrap that i'm playing elf surpremacist inquisitor

I support everything you said in this statement, when will everyone realise our ears have a far superior shape. Round ear freaks.

[Volourn]

"I find it very hard to create a character that grows up in a racist society and entirely disavows their racist views. I don't want to create an elven supremacist, but that's what the Dalish are. "

Not all the Dalish in the games are racist...

[devSin]

Inquisition is very likely to already be the first BioWare game that has ever allowed an elf protagonist where I will choose to play a human instead, so I can't claim to really mind either way.

But I can definitely understand not wanting to be forced into a specific background that seems so fundamental to the character's identity.

[Angrywolves]

slaughter them all ?
Well we'll ser how well genocide goes in this game.....

[Hrungr]

The Dalish Origin is by far my favorite, but in DA:I perhaps you could have one Dalish Parent and the other a City Elf. Go forth and embrace the culture of your choosing...

[TheBlackAdder13]

Maybe the mage is dalish and the warrior/rogue is city elf?

I think it would be really fun to play a Dalish mage -- we've never had the chance to be one before.

[d4eaming]

I like the Dalish, they remind me of a culture in my own fiction (though BW's is decidedly more gritty and way more well rounded than any tripe I can create). My canon DAO is a Dalish elf rogue. He did totally go the "humans suck" route though, had to be dragged kicking and screaming away from his clan where he would rather have died than be pressed into service against his will. He was a total snot to King Cailan, or to anyone that had the dialogue option. Over the course of the game, he did mellow, and gradually came to respect the responsibility put on his shoulders. I suppose he was a pretty stereotypical Dalish elf.

My second full game was a mage elf that I headcanoned as a city elf, seeing as it's unlikely a Dalish would have been taken to the circle, and he was much more a snot about being a mage than about being an elf unless someone else brought it up. He didn't even mind the circle until late in the game where he came to appreciate his freedom much more.

I'd like the choice to pick city, circle, or Dalish elf background, but I am also very pliable and build my character's personality as I go rather than starting full cloth with everything defined, so I will be flexible enough to work with the choices I do get.

It is far and away still better than only being able to play a human (I play a human in real life, I prefer my fantasy critters in games),

My stance is just wait and see. Perhaps class does restrict background (since it did in Origins as well, but very cleverly), or perhaps by the time the game is released, my mage can be any of the three available (or even four if they give us an apostate option besides Dalish).

I am totally cool with either option.

[MKDAWUSS]

If we can have customized Dalish tattoos, I might lean a little more to playing a Dalish elf.

[Chari]

Damn, I always wanted to play as a dalish mage