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[ISpeakTheTruth]

So after hearing there's going to be an entire faction of Templars that are called 'Red Templars' and they all seem to be sporting red lyrium swords like our favorite nutcase in DA2 had. So immediately after I heard/saw thought that this didn't make any sense at all. Red lyrium to me always seemed like something that was incredibly rare. While you see entire mountains of blue lyrium while the only amount of Red Lyrim we've ever seen in all the games was a small amount and no one else had even heard of it. I have a hard time believing that Red Lyruim is a well known substance afterall a material that gives someone an incredible amount of magical power would be searched for by everyone.

Now there are probably hundreds of people with red lyrium and I'm left thinking.... How did they get that much red lyrium?

[Daralii]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Inquisition or main Templar Order started digging to try and find out what happened to Meredith and found a vein of the stuff.

I'll be surprised if it isn't at least touched on early in the game.

[Neon Rising Winter]

Daralii wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if the Inquisition or main Templar Order started digging to try and find out what happened to Meredith and found a vein of the stuff.

I'll be surprised if it isn't at least touched on early in the game.

Exactly. I figure a foolish bunch of adventurers opened up a previously unknown route into an area with a large supply of a new type of lyrium which proved to be powerful if dangerous. Although monster infested this has subsequently been cleared out and opened up by people with a vested interest in obtaining a supply. (Call this the 'You messed the world up in DA2 more than you thought' theory).

[In Exile]

The stone sleeps under Orlais, as that creepy Golem said. It may be that that's where the red lyrium originates, or is plentiful.

[azarhal]

The primeval thaig was full of the stuff, we know that the Warden wanted to secure the place, maybe the Templars "took over" the place after DA2.

The Red Templars might be eating Meredith for all we know too. Templars just need to take one small potion of (blue) lyrium every week anyway, Meredith would be enough to feed a bunch of them for a while I think.

[Inprea]

Well it's like dark energon from transformers of course. You take 100 kilograms of blue lyrium and introduce 5 grams of red lyrium to it, let set for one to two weeks and you have 200 kilograms of red lyrium.

Side note: That's pure bs I have no idea where all the red lyrium came from.

[Cainhurst Crow]

krul2k wrote...

It seemed to you to be rare doesn't mean it is

It seemed to be rare doesn't mean it is

no one had seen it before doesn't mean its rare

Reminds me of how aluminum used to be worth more than gold because of how hard it was to get in a pure form. Than comes the Hall–Héroult process of extracting aluminum from minirals and suddenly the stuff becomes ridiculously cheap.

[Daralii]

In Exile wrote...

The stone sleeps under Orlais, as that creepy Golem said. It may be that that's where the red lyrium originates, or is plentiful.

Might tie in to the extremely drastic measures Kal Sharok took to survive the Darkspawn, though I prefer the idea that it ties in with Hawke's expedition into the Thaig.

Hawke would indeed one of the most important people in DA because she effectively broke the universe.

[spike08]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

krul2k wrote...

It seemed to you to be rare doesn't mean it is

It seemed to be rare doesn't mean it is

no one had seen it before doesn't mean its rare

Reminds me of how aluminum used to be worth more than gold because of how hard it was to get in a pure form. Than comes the Hall–Héroult process of extracting aluminum from minirals and suddenly the stuff becomes ridiculously cheap.

Reminds me of the movie blood diamond film where the diamond company stores excess diamonds to drive up the price.

to us the audience i red lyrium is rare. Like gold. For all we know there could be the biggest cache of mineral gold that we haven't found yet. Ad yet gold is rare

[LanceSolous13]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

So after hearing there's going to be an entire faction of Templars that are called 'Red Templars' and they all seem to be sporting red lyrium swords like our favorite nutcase in DA2 had. So immediately after I heard/saw thought that this didn't make any sense at all. Red lyrium to me always seemed like something that was incredibly rare. While you see entire mountains of blue lyrium while the only amount of Red Lyrim we've ever seen in all the games was a small amount and no one else had even heard of it. I have a hard time believing that Red Lyruim is a well known substance afterall a material that gives someone an incredible amount of magical power would be searched for by everyone.

Now there are probably hundreds of people with red lyrium and I'm left thinking.... How did they get that much red lyrium?

Don't forget, they said that that Demo they played was somewhere in mid-to-late game. This could have been brought up in earlier segments.

[Hellion Rex]

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!!!!! HOLD EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn't Nathaniel tell you in DAII that the First Warden was interested in the Primeval Thaig?
Holy crap, maybe the First Warden has something to do with this!!!!

[Mr Cloud]

Hmm, I'm just replaying DA2 and I've noticed that (before Deep Roads Expedition) Cassandra lashes out on Varric, claiming that Hawke knew of what was "down there" (red lyrium, of course), she made it seem like a big case.

So my bet is that excavations began in the Primevel Thaig not long after Hawke discovered what had lingered there.
Or at least there were more expeditions.

Modifié par Mr Cloud, 02 septembre 2013 - 01:37 .

[Hellion Rex]

In Exile wrote...

The stone sleeps under Orlais, as that creepy Golem said. It may be that that's where the red lyrium originates, or is plentiful.

Good catch! That scenario certainly seems feasible.

[Hellion Rex]

Mr Cloud wrote...

Hmm, I'm just replaying DA2 and I've noticed that (before Deep Roads Expedition) Cassandra lashes out on Varric, claiming that Hawke knew of what was "down there" (red lyrium, of course), she made it seems like a big case.
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So my bet is that excavations began in the Primevel Thaig not long after Hawke discovered what had lingered there.

Good catch. Or she might have been referring to what she knew of Meredith's remains.

[MisanthropePrime]

Red Lyrium seems to be capable of self replicating. A small idol managed to turn all of Meredith's bodymass into red lyrium. Perhaps they "farm" it using people?

[Bekkael]

The demons that came through from the Fade tear probably showed the Templars where to find more red lyrium. *shrug*

I'm sure there will be plenty of explanation in the game.

[Hellion Rex]

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Red Lyrium seems to be capable of self replicating. A small idol managed to turn all of Meredith's bodymass into red lyrium. Perhaps they "farm" it using people?

:O That's an interesting idea. Maybe they started with Meredith's remains and used it to transform other people.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

You know what I've just come up with my own theory as to why there's so much lyruim. Since lyrium is a physical connection to the Fade so maybe now that the Fade is open to the world its causing the normal blue lyrium to become red.

[Daralii]

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Red Lyrium seems to be capable of self replicating. A small idol managed to turn all of Meredith's bodymass into red lyrium. Perhaps they "farm" it using people?

The game will end with us killing a giant, skeletal golem made out of red lyrium farmed from the Inquisitor's friends.

Snark aside, it's certainly twisted enough to be something Bioware would do.

[deuce985]

Who's to say the Red Templars are anything but a very small splinter faction due to a small number of them being exposed to the lyrium?

Modifié par deuce985, 02 septembre 2013 - 01:56 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

deuce985 wrote...

Who's to say the Red Templars are anything but a very small splinter faction due to a small number of them being exposed to the lyrium?

The Devs said that the Red Templars are going to be an on going adversary. So there has to be a good amount of them or we'd kill of their entire group in the first encounter.

[MisanthropePrime]

Daralii wrote...

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Red Lyrium seems to be capable of self replicating. A small idol managed to turn all of Meredith's bodymass into red lyrium. Perhaps they "farm" it using people?

The game will end with us killing a giant, skeletal golem made out of red lyrium farmed from the Inquisitor's friends.

Snark aside, it's certainly twisted enough to be something Bioware would do.

I think that we've already seen golems made out of red lyrium, actually!

[Daralii]

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Daralii wrote...

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Red Lyrium seems to be capable of self replicating. A small idol managed to turn all of Meredith's bodymass into red lyrium. Perhaps they "farm" it using people?

The game will end with us killing a giant, skeletal golem made out of red lyrium farmed from the Inquisitor's friends.

Snark aside, it's certainly twisted enough to be something Bioware would do.

I think that we've already seen golems made out of red lyrium, actually!

The presence of a helmet makes me think they're heavily mutated templars rather than only red lyrium.

[Potato Cat]

I didn't think that was a golem actually. If you look closely, there's a helmet shaped head and Templar skirt-esque dangly bits. I think that's a corrupted Red Templar.

Ahh, ninja'd

Modifié par Elfman, 02 septembre 2013 - 02:18 .