MKDAWUSS wrote...
If we can set up mobile camps where our health can regenerate I'd be cool with that. I don't want to spend too much time backtracking. Especially when we're just exploring the countryside and all that.
Modifié par ThunderfoxF, 02 septembre 2013 - 03:09 .
CrustyBot wrote...
Sounds like the OP feels entitled to exploring the whole game. Laidlaw recently made comments along the lines of "there is content that not everyone will see, and that is fine. That is awesome." While it refers to story decisions, the same principle extends to the gameplay.
Nobody has the right to see and explore the whole game in one sitting if they are incapable of meeting it's challenges or makes decisions which makes it difficult or impossible to do so. Use cheats if you are that desperate.
ag99 wrote...
Not all ppl play the game just for combat, some ppl just want to enjoy the story and not have to run back and forth to do the same thing over and over again till a enemy is dead that can get old and annoying pretty fast
Zevais wrote...
ag99 wrote...
Not all ppl play the game just for combat, some ppl just want to enjoy the story and not have to run back and forth to do the same thing over and over again till a enemy is dead that can get old and annoying pretty fast
^This
Bekkael wrote...
MKDAWUSS wrote...
If we can set up mobile camps where our health can regenerate I'd be cool with that. I don't want to spend too much time backtracking. Especially when we're just exploring the countryside and all that.
Will there be any fast travel? I thought I read somewhere that there would not (hence, the horses), and if that's the case it makes non-regenerating health even more of a concern with the longer time traveling back and forth.
Angrywolves wrote...
Just watched the 3 Pax Gameplay videos .
Potions are limited and you may have to retreat to one of your bases to rest up.
That's the way it's going to be.
Modifié par Renmiri1, 02 septembre 2013 - 03:42 .
Guest_Jayne126_*
Did he really? Because that's something I haven't heard in -years-.CrustyBot wrote...
Sounds like the OP feels entitled to exploring the whole game. Laidlaw recently made comments along the lines of "there is content that not everyone will see, and that is fine. That is awesome." While it refers to story decisions, the same principle extends to the gameplay.
Ecmoose wrote...
Zevais wrote...
ag99 wrote...
Not all ppl play the game just for combat, some ppl just want to enjoy the story and not have to run back and forth to do the same thing over and over again till a enemy is dead that can get old and annoying pretty fast
^This
Then don't play RPG's.
All games are not made for all people. BW had to make the decisions about their game and they did. They can not make everyone happy.
DAO was a traditional RPG on a console, that's what made it so fantastic, that's what made it awesome. They're moving back to their roots with DAI and that's that.
I'm sorry that some people are worried about this, but personally I think it's only really going to matter on anything above casual difficulty. Easy modes are for new players and people who just want the story, they don't need to make any more concession then that if they don't want to.
Ecmoose wrote...
Zevais wrote...
ag99 wrote...
Not all ppl play the game just for combat, some ppl just want to enjoy the story and not have to run back and forth to do the same thing over and over again till a enemy is dead that can get old and annoying pretty fast
^This
Then don't play RPG's.
All games are not made for all people. BW had to make the decisions about their game and they did. They can not make everyone happy.
DAO was a traditional RPG on a console, that's what made it so fantastic, that's what made it awesome. They're moving back to their roots with DAI and that's that.
I'm sorry that some people are worried about this, but personally I think it's only really going to matter on anything above casual difficulty. Easy modes are for new players and people who just want the story, they don't need to make any more concession then that if they don't want to.
Modifié par ag99, 02 septembre 2013 - 03:50 .
Jayne126 wrote...
I'm sure on easy it will regenerate slowly or something else to compensate for it. A broad audience means targeting the lowest point of it (take that as you will). And since they don't want to ****** the mainstream market too much off, I can see them changing some stuff in the following time.Did he really? Because that's something I haven't heard in -years-.CrustyBot wrote...
Sounds like the OP feels entitled to exploring the whole game. Laidlaw recently made comments along the lines of "there is content that not everyone will see, and that is fine. That is awesome." While it refers to story decisions, the same principle extends to the gameplay.
If so, nice.
Bekkael wrote...
DAO had health regen. And it was and remains a fantastic game.
Guest_Jayne126_*
Ah, allright thanks. Never heard it but that's good, exploring like that is always great.Dunvi wrote...
he's said something along the lines of, yes. multiple times, in fact - he wants to capture that feeling of exploration where you stumble across something and no one else (except the wiki i'm sure) knows what you're talking about when you start rambling to your friends.
I play DA to relax and enjoy the story. as long as I can do that without wanting to kick a puppy every few minutes because of slow combat or frequent stops to "recharge hp" I'll muddle through it.Jayne126 wrote...
I'm sure on easy it will regenerate slowly or something else to compensate for it. A broad audience means targeting the lowest point of it (take that as you will). And since they don't want to ****** the mainstream market too much off, I can see them changing some stuff in the following time.
Jayne126 wrote...
Did he really? Because that's something I haven't heard in -years-.CrustyBot wrote...
Sounds like the OP feels entitled to exploring the whole game. Laidlaw recently made comments along the lines of "there is content that not everyone will see, and that is fine. That is awesome." While it refers to story decisions, the same principle extends to the gameplay.
If so, nice.
Modifié par Renmiri1, 02 septembre 2013 - 03:53 .
ag99 wrote...
Ecmoose wrote...
Zevais wrote...
ag99 wrote...
Not all ppl play the game just for combat, some ppl just want to enjoy the story and not have to run back and forth to do the same thing over and over again till a enemy is dead that can get old and annoying pretty fast
^This
Then don't play RPG's.
All games are not made for all people. BW had to make the decisions about their game and they did. They can not make everyone happy.
DAO was a traditional RPG on a console, that's what made it so fantastic, that's what made it awesome. They're moving back to their roots with DAI and that's that.
I'm sorry that some people are worried about this, but personally I think it's only really going to matter on anything above casual difficulty. Easy modes are for new players and people who just want the story, they don't need to make any more concession then that if they don't want to.
The reason I play RPG's its couse of the story not necesarily the combat . And yes I agree that DAO was and still is an awesome game BUT they still had life regeneration and it was fine , I was still able to enjoy the story and not have to go back and forth everytime to regain my health. I do appreatiate their hard work on the game and it looks amazing. And yes your right they cant please everyone but as you have mentioned for those who want to enjoy the story more hopefully the "easy modes" wont be such a pain despide the lack of health regeneration
Ecmoose wrote...
Bekkael wrote...
DAO had health regen. And it was and remains a fantastic game.
I agree, I replay it every few months haha.
My point was just that DAO is great because it goes back to the roots. Using that same inspiration in DAI (imo) is only going to bring that same feel to it.
Also as other people have said, I'm sure the lack of health regen won't be a game changer on easier difficulties. DAO and DA2 on casual made most enemies extremely easy to dispatch and in the demos the party didn't seem to take a hell of a lot of damage from the encounters.
Renmiri1 wrote...
Hear that about WoW all the time and they end up opening it up the next patch.. We'll see. The mass customer can be a very determined force.
I don't really mind per se. I mean, I never bothered doing Thieves Guild on most of my Skyrim 400 hours playthroughs and I have only sided with Ulfric once - and never finished that PT. But the option was there, if I wanted to make a toon and cba to finish the questlines. So I know there are some Skyrim areas I never saw and it doesn't bother me. But I was the one deciding it wasn't worth the effort.
Modifié par Yalision, 02 septembre 2013 - 03:59 .
That doesn't answer my question. How is having a checkbox for health regen any different than turning off friendly fire or removing powerful spells and abilities from enemies' move pools on easier settings?Ecmoose wrote...
Because you're supposed to prepare and manage correctly. Allowing you to bypass that entirely is cheapening the experience. BW wants you to have to make the decision about when to retreat, when to fight, and when to heal. As far as they are concerned it's an integral part of exploration in DA3.
That's not a valid reason.Are you going to have to revisit some areas later? Sure, if you want to. Is it tedious, yes it is, and yet the RPG genre has existed for years under the same circumstances.
So it's okay that people miss some content because health is a scarce resource and they might not remember to go back for it, but it's not okay if they miss content because they can turn on health regen and some fights are easier? This point makes no sense.BW is designing the game, they want players to have to act in a certain way when it comes to their game and that's what they're designing it around. Toggling all of their hard work at balancing the game just for people to bypass it, is in fact cheapening both the experience, and an insult to the work they put into designing it.
How?Fast Jimmy wrote...
However, it can hurt for them to deliver.
Tedium is not the same thing as challenege. Also, I even said they can make it a console command and a "cheat." I really don't care (though I'd feel for console players who couldn't activate it).CrustyBot wrote...
Sounds like the OP feels entitled to exploring the whole game. Laidlaw recently made comments along the lines of "there is content that not everyone will see, and that is fine. That is awesome." While it refers to story decisions, the same principle extends to the gameplay.
Nobody has the right to see and explore the whole game in one sitting if they are incapable of meeting it's challenges or makes decisions which makes it difficult or impossible to do so. Use cheats if you are that desperate.
Again, I want a challenge. I enjoy difficult encounters. I do not enjoy unnecessarily tedious gameplay mechanics. No health regen is in the same category as, say, requiring your character to eat and drink every 7 in-game hours. It's just not for me. I like being on the edge of my seat during a big, difficult encounter. I like dying and retrying different strategies until I get it right. I don't like running back through a big dungeon, through a big world, and then finally to my base to heal up only to run back throught he world and through the dungeon to pick up where I left off.DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
Play on casual difficulty.
As a professional software developer and someone well versed in modern game toolkits (that sentence sounded really douchey, sorry), it's not actually that much work.LindsayLohan wrote...
Why is it that people think writing application is just a bunch of if statements? Do you know the complexity that would be required to make that toggable in such a huge system? Do you have resources to refactor your code? What is the cost-benefit of appealing to a few minorities(inb4 racist). It is not worth their time to do that so OP you will just have to prepare yourself.
I'd argue this applies more to the change from health regen to no health regen than it does to my request.ThunderfoxF wrote...
Its BioWare's game, why should they have to change something just for a percentage of the populace?
Modifié par Maverick827, 02 septembre 2013 - 04:01 .
CrustyBot wrote...
Sounds like the OP feels entitled to exploring the whole game. Laidlaw recently made comments along the lines of "there is content that not everyone will see, and that is fine. That is awesome." While it refers to story decisions, the same principle extends to the gameplay.
Nobody has the right to see and explore the whole game in one sitting if they are incapable of meeting it's challenges or makes decisions which makes it difficult or impossible to do so. Use cheats if you are that desperate.
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