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[Accipitrifa]

I'm actually quite excited at the prospect of playing a qunari! A member of the most vilified race in Thedas is the one who will end up potentially saving it, I think it makes for a fantastic story.

[Iakus]

Kuroi Kishin wrote...

Guys relax, we don't even know where our Qunari PC came from.

I wouldn't jump so much for lore reasons, there are always ways to create new lore, or have windows in it, so things like this can happen.

Someone who willingy left the Qun could work if he was found by a Mage for example, and had proper training. Like Morrigan had with Flemeth.

And who said you're not a former Saarebas? Not all of them are mute, some do not abuse their power and thus, do not lose their tongues.

Another option, you are from a different place all together.

Really, sky is the limit for imagination.

I think the guys that invented the lore in the first place, know more about it than us.

It's true, we don't know what the backstroy for the qunari Inquisitor will be.  But it's a cause for concern because most of human society sees the qunari as an evil, heathen force.  Worse than elves, even!  The only ones we really see (aside from sten) operating openly in human lands are Tal-Vashoth mercenaries.  I for one would really like to know how one can rise to a postition where they lead an nation-spanning organization.

I mean:

Will this Inquisitor be Qunari, Tal-Vashoth?  WIll the player be able to choose?  Or even be ::gasp::  Andrastrian!
How would a qunari mage not be Saraebas?  Even the Tal Vashoth seem to leash their mages.
What kind of reactions will this Inquisitor get from other people?  Orlesians?  Dalish?  the Chantry?  Qunari?

My greatest hope is that a qunari Inquisitor has a unique, fascinating story that makes complete sense from a lore standpoint. 

My greatest fear is that it'll basically be a reskinned human done for cheesy fanservice. 

[Eterna]

Amirit wrote...

1. Some Qunari who have ambition above their station come to resent their place in the society, and thus the Qun;  (And we know that everyone in Qun is evaluated. So, that makes our Inquisitor someone who wants something he does not deserv)

That is silly. You do realize that all female Qunari are not allowed to fight right? Sten even says this in Origins. IT is perfectly logical for a Qunari to be placed in a role in society that is unworthy of them, Qunari do not choose who they are, it is decided by birth. Nowhere is it said they are evalutated. 

I could easily see a few individuals who would reject their position in society. Why could the Inquisitor not be one of them? 

[Han Shot First]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

As already stated, I don't think they mean 'You play as a Quinari, follower of the Qun', but as a Kossith/Tal-Vashoth which is the race that is almost always confused with the religious order/group called Quinari, which is predominantly made from the Kossith/Tal-Vashoth race.

It would probably be done this way to help Plot and RPG elements. If we were to truly be Quinari, there wouldn't be much choice/options stuff because we'd be following the Qun all the time.

The Qunari PC also has a first and last name, which suggests that he or she will indeed be Tal Vashoth. If the Qunari PC also followed the Qun, they'd only be known by their profession.

[Eterna]

Reznore57 wrote...

It worked for wardens because they stayed out of humans politics , and most of them were cannon fodder...
The Inquisitor will hold some power...

Are you seriously trying to say that the Warden in Origins did not meddle in Politics? My Dalish Warden was the deciding factor on who became king of bloody ferelden lol. 

[Steelcan]

Han Shot First wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

As already stated, I don't think they mean 'You play as a Quinari, follower of the Qun', but as a Kossith/Tal-Vashoth which is the race that is almost always confused with the religious order/group called Quinari, which is predominantly made from the Kossith/Tal-Vashoth race.

It would probably be done this way to help Plot and RPG elements. If we were to truly be Quinari, there wouldn't be much choice/options stuff because we'd be following the Qun all the time.

The Qunari PC also has a first and last name, which suggests that he or she will indeed be Tal Vashoth. If the Qunari PC also followed the Qun, they'd only be known by their profession.

To be fair everyone will call him/her "Inquisitor" regardless

[TheCreeper]

testytest wrote...

I'm actually quite excited at the prospect of playing a qunari! A member of the most vilified race in Thedas is the one who will end up potentially saving it, I think it makes for a fantastic story.

Imagine if it was like a Female Qunari Blood Mage.  They are the most vilified and looked down a person can possibly be, and that's only becaused Qunari/Elf hybrids do not exist. And yet they still save the world from itself.

[Iakus]

Eterna5 wrote...

That is silly. You do realize that all female Qunari are not allowed to fight right? Sten even says this in Origins. IT is perfectly logical for a Qunari to be placed in a role in society that is unworthy of them, Qunari do not choose who they are, it is decided by birth. Nowhere is it said they are evalutated. 

I could easily see a few individuals who would reject their position in society. Why could the Inquisitor not be one of them? 

Actually the Tamasrsans do evaluate all Qunari children at twelve years of age and assign them their roles in society  THough it's quite reasonable to assume that some desire to have a different role.

And women are not allowed to be warriors.  Professional fighters, as in the military.  Some roles (such as the Ben- Hassrath) do require fighting skills and are available to women.

[Eterna]

iakus wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

That is silly. You do realize that all female Qunari are not allowed to fight right? Sten even says this in Origins. IT is perfectly logical for a Qunari to be placed in a role in society that is unworthy of them, Qunari do not choose who they are, it is decided by birth. Nowhere is it said they are evalutated. 

I could easily see a few individuals who would reject their position in society. Why could the Inquisitor not be one of them? 

Actually the Tamasrsans do evaluate all Qunari children at twelve years of age and assign them their roles in society  THough it's quite reasonable to assume that some desire to have a different role.

And women are not allowed to be warriors.  Professional fighters, as in the military.  Some roles (such as the Ben- Hassrath) do require fighting skills and are available to women.

I didn't know they were evaluated. Sten made it seem like you were born into your role, similar to how Dwarves operate.

And I did know about the fighting thing, that is what I meant. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 02 septembre 2013 - 07:28 .

[Sylvianus]

I'm excited and at the same time worried. Don't really know why.

[DarthSliver]

I am more worried Race thing they described actually making a difference wont be as awesome as they sound over how lore breaking a playable Qunari will be. Didnt they say it would be like that in Origins but yet it didnt really make a difference unless you tried to be queen of feralden

[Truffle]

testytest wrote...

I'm actually quite excited at the prospect of playing a qunari! A member of the most vilified race in Thedas is the one who will end up potentially saving it, I think it makes for a fantastic story.

This. Especially after the events of Act 2 in DA2 it sounds really appealing to play as one.

[Iakus]

Sylvianus wrote...

I'm excited and at the same time worried. Don't really know why.

Because done well, it could add a unique and incredible facet to DAI and a deeper understanding of the qunari as a race

And done poorly, it could add nothing to the game and be really really dumb  

[Reznore57]

Eterna5 wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...

It worked for wardens because they stayed out of humans politics , and most of them were cannon fodder...
The Inquisitor will hold some power...

Are you seriously trying to say that the Warden in Origins did not meddle in Politics? My Dalish Warden was the deciding factor on who became king of bloody ferelden lol. 

Yes .I'm seriously saying that wardens do not deal with politics.
Officially.
The reason you're all by yourself saving Ferelden is politics , because long time ago some Ferelden wardens tried to take the throne and  it turned out badly .
And the fact that Loghain thinks wardens are working with Orlesians.And he's blocking reinforcement.
So you have no choice but to deal with politics.

But that's not supposed to be this way.
The wardens are neutral that why every country open their border , and they have also a good relationship with the Chantry.

[Eterna]

Reznore57 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...

It worked for wardens because they stayed out of humans politics , and most of them were cannon fodder...
The Inquisitor will hold some power...

Are you seriously trying to say that the Warden in Origins did not meddle in Politics? My Dalish Warden was the deciding factor on who became king of bloody ferelden lol. 

Yes .I'm seriously saying that wardens do not deal with politics.
Officially.
The reason you're all by yourself saving Ferelden is politics , because long time ago some Ferelden wardens tried to take the throne and  it turned out badly .
And the fact that Loghain thinks wardens are working with Orlesians.And he's blocking reinforcement.
So you have no choice but to deal with politics.

But that's not supposed to be this way.
The wardens are neutral that why every country open their border , and they have also a good relationship with the Chantry.

Okay but it makes your point moot. If a Dalish Elf can determine the outcome of political battles during a crisis why can't a Qunari? 

[Steelcan]

The elf is a warden, the position commands respect. The Inquisitor does not have this sway, at least at first.

[Eterna]

Steelcan wrote...

The elf is a warden, the position commands respect. The Inquisitor does not have this sway, at least at first.

How do you know? Almost every Concept art  of the Inquisitor thus far has shown him/her in an authoritive position with people either saluting, kneeling, or doing some action that shows respect. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 02 septembre 2013 - 08:00 .

[Steelcan]

Eterna5 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

The elf is a warden, the position commands respect. The Inquisitor does not have this sway, at least at first.

How do you know? Almost every Concept art  of the Inquisitor thus far has shown him/her in an authoritive position with people either saluting, kneeling, or doing some action that shows respect. 

Statements about the Inquisitor having to earn respect from groups like the Chantry.  The specific quote related to the ability to attack forts.

Modifié par Steelcan, 02 septembre 2013 - 08:01 .

[Spectre slayer]

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Found this on the dragon age twitter page we might get to play as Qunari who follows the Qun or we might not so we have to wait and see.

[Aschenglorie]

I'm rather excited for a Qunari Inquisitor--kind of unexpected. Whatever concerns I have about Qunari and lore-breaking are less about being properly recognized in in game, though, and more about balance across all races.

I may have missed some reveals but atm it seems that depending on what race we play we'll have some/a few different encounters and difficulties in the world. In my head this means in game Dalish might respect a human Quizzy less, a Dwarf might be mistrusted by a splinter mage faction for their dealings with the Chantry regarding lyrium trade. On the other hand, Elves might (based on dialogue from Zevren/Fenris) be more welcoming to a Qunari or Dwarf Inquisitor than, say, a human one.

To hear a particular ending will be more difficult for Qunari makes me really hope that this is in fact true for all races. While I have no wish to speculate what possible endings in game might be, I would like to think that rather than each race having the opportunity to (example) elevate their species/race more than a non-member (such as the boon in DA:O) we would instead work throughout the game to further politics within each race/species or faction we have agents in. It sounds like this is happening, but...what else do we have to do for a year but bite our nails?

Devs have reminded us this is more than a simple mage/templar conflict. The world is coming apart and everyone is up to something. As Qunari/Tal Vashoth why would I care much about the Empress of Orlais? Why would I care about Dalish lands? So to continue my example above, if I hope to influence the outcome of something in Orlais politics a human PC might have an easier time "winning" this particular outcome. Or If the Elves in alienages throughout Thedas are rising up, I do hope it is an Elven Inquisitor that will be more likely to "win" that particular ending/resolution. The same holds true with the Qunari, whatever their particular interest or interests might be.

[Eterna]

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

The elf is a warden, the position commands respect. The Inquisitor does not have this sway, at least at first.

How do you know? Almost every Concept art  of the Inquisitor thus far has shown him/her in an authoritive position with people either saluting, kneeling, or doing some action that shows respect. 

Statements about the Inquisitor having to earn respect from groups like the Chantry.  The specific quote related to the ability to attack forts.

Nobody helped the Warden until the warden did something to either earn their respect or save them. It is pretty much the same thing here. 

At the most, the Warden title only compelled people to adresss you. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 02 septembre 2013 - 08:10 .

[Navasha]

Whatever the race, the writers will have to explain how some sole survivor of a fade tear is chosen to become the leader of the inquisition. I am pretty confident that the writers have the imagination to make a Qunari a plausible choice. Playing a qunari is hopefully a difficult proposition with everyone judging you harshly at first... I would welcome that.

I for one, am not worried about that aspect.

[Merengues 1945]

I see your point... yeh, there's also tal vashot, but even them have very squared minds... you can neglect the qun but the squareness of the mind can't be left for good.

Unless you're a human-raised qunari or something like that, it's hard to believe in a qunari that can drive a hard bargain and comprehend the needs of multiple races and nations while being a sodding tool. I liked Sten but even he is a sodding tool.

So, a qunari inquisitor looks very hard to pull and still make sense imo. altough It's tempting, the option of having to deal with the social stigmas of being qunari.

Modifié par Merengues 1945, 02 septembre 2013 - 08:13 .

[Reznore57]

Eterna5 wrote...

Okay but it makes your point moot. If a Dalish Elf can determine the outcome of political battles during a crisis why can't a Qunari? 

Because when you get your position as a warden , you're just a foot soldier.
You're supposed to fight the Blight and die of the taint one day.
That's why no one care about your race.
But events puts you in a position where you hold some power .( and again people get to vote , and you have a royal bastard.)

In Inquisition , you're leading an army .You're the big boss ...you build up your power ...You're not even ally with the Chantry ...
I mean the warden have been saving the world for a long time and things seems way more complicated for them than for the Inquisition.

It makes little sense.

It probably will when we get the game , but sometimes when you bend story too much for gameplay reason ( and I think the qunari race is a good decision , the idea is fun) it shows.
Like the whole Hawke being an apostate can only really work if you don't look too close.

[Sylvianus]

iakus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I'm excited and at the same time worried. Don't really know why.

Because done well, it could add a unique and incredible facet to DAI and a deeper understanding of the qunari as a race

And done poorly, it could add nothing to the game and be really really dumb  

Ah, yes, thank you.