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[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Detsu wrote...

I assume that mass effect (lowercase) technology negates gforces almost entirely, and future spaceships are piloted almost entirely by keyboard.

Of course this could be possible, but I cant see a ship that is piloted entirely by keyboard being as effective as the control scheme we use now.

[sirisaacx]

When you're jumping thousands of lightyears in the blink of an eye, manual steering would be highly ineffective.

[Loop Stricken]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
Of course this could be possible, but I cant see a ship that is piloted entirely by keyboard being as effective as the control scheme we use now.

This is because you do not live in the future.

[Azazelbishop]

from the books it is stated that the element zero negates all g-forces when leaveing a planet and when flying, they also stated that the pliot has nothing to do when a ship is in FTL as it's all on auto. and in the game is it said that everything from ships to guns to bioics have VI's in them to make them better ie VI's in ships to process all the data of a battle in milliseconds and then give a recommendation to the XO, Pliot, Caption.... in bioitcs they help activate the powers, in guns Autotargeting. also for your point about nothing beats a human sorry but a VI beats it by a long shot in every sence.

[Medhia Nox]

I do, however - it's crazy. Sometimes, I come back in time because someone is wrong on the internet. Then, I find curious threads like this one and I try to enlightened my ancestors.



BTW, the dinosaurs came back. It's crazy sharing your apartment with a Ornithocheirus.

[Lord Jaric]

um, he doesn't fly with his feet, so as long as he is in the chair he is fine, but he has got to be careful when he gets up to take a ******

[Inferno Sock]

Hes Seth Green

[Murmillos]

Star Trek, Star Wars, Star Gate.. (and many many more SciFi movies with space ships)



All of them have one thing in common, they control the vessel using a control panel only. Much like an over sized and complicated keyboard.



Thus, what Joker said was right, 'I don't fly with my feet Commander". He doesn't and nobody else does.



Sure, you could be right about the brittle bone being an issue for any member of the Alliance, pilot or not - but just because the controls for the space ship are not the same as a modern earth style fighter jet is not reason enough to disqualify him from flying.

[muse108]

its his legs that are the weakest, the rest of him is fine and he doesnt need his legs to fly the ship. In space and with mass effect fields the forces work differently, so insert fluff here.

[WrexShepard]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Then again I could just be used to control scheme we use now, if the Turians were brought up using a different system then maybe they would prefer their way too because that is what they are used to.

You're making the mistake of equivocating space travel with flight. Spaceships operate more like submarines than they do aircraft. (Even a spaceplane would work this way once it got into space.)

It's more about making minute thrust applications for course correction, laying in coordinates and mind work than it is seat of your pants flying. Everything the normandy can do is executed by keyboard commands.

[JoshAO]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Honestly, it can be anything they want.

One of the interesting concepts from the Mass Effect books (don't read further if you don't want an almost pointless detail) is that windows are added to ships simply for "show". They don't need windows on spacecraft - they're only put in because it boosted morale on earth because people expected windows.
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now that they can create ships with stealth like the normandy windows might be necessary

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Azazelbishop wrote...

from the books it is stated that the element zero negates all g-forces when leaveing a planet and when flying, they also stated that the pliot has nothing to do when a ship is in FTL as it's all on auto. and in the game is it said that everything from ships to guns to bioics have VI's in them to make them better ie VI's in ships to process all the data of a battle in milliseconds and then give a recommendation to the XO, Pliot, Caption.... in bioitcs they help activate the powers, in guns Autotargeting. also for your point about nothing beats a human sorry but a VI beats it by a long shot in every sence.

Perhaps you are right, but that is also a scary thought. Why use a human if a VI can do everything better? Is this how it is going to be in the future, that humans become obsolete and everything is done by VIs and robots?

[Delta426]

I have to side with GrayBeard on this one.



Beeing almost certaintly the only person who served in the military in this thread I can say this with great authority.



Every position in the military requires 3 things on entrance: Aptitude Test, Physical Fitness Test and a Medical Examination. This is forces wide from an Army Infantryman to a Chairforce Sock Counter (Supply Tech). Unless he developed his condition after the recruitment process was completed, which he didn't, he would simply not be allowed to join the military.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Delta426 wrote...

I have to side with GrayBeard on this one.

Beeing almost certaintly the only person who served in the military in this thread I can say this with great authority.

Every position in the military requires 3 things on entrance: Aptitude Test, Physical Fitness Test and a Medical Examination. This is forces wide from an Army Infantryman to a Chairforce Sock Counter (Supply Tech). Unless he developed his condition after the recruitment process was completed, which he didn't, he would simply not be allowed to join the military.

I love centurions .

http://redwing.hutma...m/centurion.htm

[GnusmasTHX]

@OP; I don't know why you'd think that given no such controls are present in the Normandy variations. At least not to my knowledge, I admit I didn't pay attention.



They have floaty orange screen things for that.

[Delta426]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

I love centurions .

http://redwing.hutma...m/centurion.htm

Ouch man. Brutal, but I must admit not unwarranted.

[GnusmasTHX]

Delta426 wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

I love centurions .

http://redwing.hutma...m/centurion.htm

Ouch man. Brutal, but I must admit not unwarranted.

That site is hilarious. I'm excited to use my newfound knowledge to call out other people in a similar manner.

[dissonance-zaon]

If you're concerned with Joker feeling the effects of G-Force as a pilot (therefore needing to be fit), what about the entire crew who just walk around casually during flight? A lot of details are covered in the Codex and/or the books. I don't remember where but the whole mass effect fields thing takes care of a lot of problems in regards to physics. The manipulation of physics is the underlying theme of the universe.

So maybe pilots don't need a "high level of fitness". Maybe Joker was an exception. Maybe flight controls changed over the course of hundreds of years and the discovery of alien technology. Maybe present technology and military requirements =/= future fiction.

Either way, suspension of disbelief is your friend. If it weren't, we'd all be disturbed by the English lip sync from the translated galactic trade language. Or disturbed by lore exposition. Or how no one calls you by your first name. If you want to dig deep enough, there's many things you could disprove (e.g. blonde rarity) or debate.

I suppose it's all subjective though. Certain things irk some more than others. I'm just happy with the amount of depth the writers put into the universe at all and can suspend my disbelief enough to romance Tali

TL;DR = Because he's Seth Green.

Modifié par dissonance-zaon, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:47 .

[Inarai]

If he doesn't need his legs for his job, they wouldn't be a factor. Rather simple.



And frankly, he may have gotten a waiver on the fitness standards do to sheer skill.

[Inarai]

If he doesn't need his legs for his job, they wouldn't be a factor. Rather simple.



And frankly, he may have gotten a waiver on the fitness standards do to sheer skill.

[Mordaedil]

They also are more tolerant of cripples in the future. Get over your bigotry today!

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Delta426 wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

I love centurions .

http://redwing.hutma...m/centurion.htm

Ouch man. Brutal, but I must admit not unwarranted.

Sorry I couldnt help myself

[dmurray30]

this is such a stupid conversation, he made pilot because someone at bioware said hey lets give the pilot a bone disorder. its only a small story to build extra interest, creators can do anything they want, ANYTHING.

[Xanfyrst]

Delta426 wrote...

Beeing almost certaintly the only person who served in the military in this thread I can say this with great authority.

Every position in the military requires 3 things on entrance: Aptitude Test, Physical Fitness Test and a Medical Examination. This is forces wide from an Army Infantryman to a Chairforce Sock Counter (Supply Tech). Unless he developed his condition after the recruitment process was completed, which he didn't, he would simply not be allowed to join the military.

And your 'great authority' means little since this isn't the same military you're in. This is a military with technology WAY ahead of ours. As mentioned before. g-forces are irrelevant in ME spacecrafts and the spacecrafts are almost completely automated most of the time.

In short: his brittle bones means nothing. He is just as physically capable at being a pilot like anyone else. He just can't run to the toilet as fast when he needs to pee-pee.