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[RoundedPlanet88]

Element 0 wrote...

In the case of you getting dropped on by a Phantom or a LolGoon in hack or drone escort for example. HSol or GT will just dodge it. And relocate. Destroyer will eat it with his stagger immunity, but will get sync-killed or continue to eat damage till he dies, because he doesn't have instant shield regen of Hsol, super fast regen of GT or a dodge. All he can do is spam multi-frags. But on some maps grenades are not that plentiful. 

Ofcourse - I know what you gonna say - lol lol he says Destoyer sucks and he can't play it. What a moron and bla bla bla. That's not the case. I'm just saying that turning off DevMod with an animation is unnecessary. And this could be an ace in the sleeve on a twich reaction Destoyer

In the case of a phantom or logoons getting into melee range, the destroyer still wins, he doesn't stagger back into sync kill range, oh no, he keeps running away from the sync kill, unlike the default human soldier, or pretty much every other kit in the game, which staggers BACKWARDS INTO IT.

And I`ll give you this, you are right, the animation is completely unnecessary, know why? BECAUSE NOBODY IS STUPID ENOUGH TO EVER TURN IT OFF.

All of this is still besides the point though, because, you STILL HAVN`T EXPLAINED WHY YOU RANDOMLY SWITCH POSITIONS.

As for a "ace in the sleeve of a twitch reaction destroyer" lolwut? a REAL "twitch reaction Destroyer" will simply kill everything.

[RoundedPlanet88]

Element 0 wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I think you missed the part with ROF bonuses and accuracy bonuses.
Along with it being a constant power as opposed to AR's 6-7 deconds.

 

Yeah I know that. As I've said - HSols sustained DPS is not that high. But his speed and dodge and shield regen + DR will outsurvive stagger immunity. 

Element 0 wrote...

A standard Human Soldier with a Typhoon will be much more effective and survivable than Destroyer with Devastator mode on. 

He will get a damage output for 7 seconds (which is enough for most engagments), 40% DR, instant shield regen and can still dodge and move faster while throwing nades with shield overload. His sustained DPS might not be as high, but overall he's better. 

[DHKany]

Right Hand Advantage and not being retarded to your surroundings is all the survivability you need as a destroyer (with the occasional turn of DM and GTFO).

Modifié par DHKany, 02 septembre 2013 - 07:37 .

[DHKany]

I need to see this Hsol Typhoon Solo video proof.

[Abramsrunner]

DHKany wrote...

I need to see this Hsol Typhoon Solo video proof.

On the Thunderdome no less.

[RoundedPlanet88]

Element 0 wrote...
 
It's pointless to argue with you cos you're just dishing out personal attacks without even thinking.  

1 extra example tho. Suppose you're playing without Geth Scanner on a Destoyer. Suppose you turn a corner into a walking silent Banshee, you can't  turn around and run, she's too close for you to fiddle with DevMode Off button. All you can do is get grabbed. A good reaction HSol or GT will dodge.

A good reaction Destoyer without the DevMode OFF animation could do the same. Same for Turrets that camp that you haven't noticed immediately (between waves for example)

And your argument of NO ONE IS STUPID ENOUGH TO SWITCH IT OFF is bad and you should feel bad. No one switches it off cos it takes too long. If it was instant, the ammount of times people switch it off in a cool way to dodge or to simply increase their speed while running for a revive, objective or LZ would increase by a lot. 

And the regular human soldier magically is capable og dodging out of stagger lock? Must have missed that balance change.

And if you walk into a turret, again, the dodge isn`t going to help you.

And you still haven't explained why you switch arguments, I can see now that your not going too, after all, tis not the first time you`ve done it. As for personal attacks,  who was it that said

Elemnt0 wrote...

Russian guy plx

Who was that again?
Please, you`ve been "attacking personally" everyone who disagrees with you over the last few threads you`ve made.

[RoundedPlanet88]

I`ll tell you what hurr coots, I`ll go grab a bottle of vodka, you go grab a bottle of vodka, and lets try to come up with a decent nickname for roundeplanet88, deal?

[mybudgee]

N7Shocktrooper

[LuckyBullet95]

Thought I might as well troll AQ before I go and do some important stuff that actually matters.

So AQ stop being a hypocritical, two-faced, childish and downright stupid idiot. Honestly I don't care about the Destroyer animation or that my friend Ledgend refuses to embrace the DM-Less Destroyer, or that some knows-none-at-all d-bag is currently "personally attacking" you.when you are just calling out someone for being stupid. Congratulations you've finally met your soul mate, you're both idiots. You've attacked (be it personally or not) everyone who has come to a disagreement with you and called you out for being misinformed (or for your seeming constant trolling). You've posted some incredibly idiotic threads in your time, most claiming something far beyond the level of stupidity of the guy you are arguing with reached with his "lol don't turn DM off you scrub" ideology. Here's an example:

Air Quotes wrote...

So Novaguards Nova gets more powerful the more shields he/she has. Should Phase Disruptor be the same? {smilie}

At least you admitted you were a moron in your thread title...So shut up Air Quotes, keep trying to actually complete the thunderdome before you attack console player skill and just tihnk "If RoundedPlanet88 posted this... would I call him an idiot?" and, if the answer is anything but no (and trust me, it will never be no, you've never once had a good idea) for the love of God just keep it to yourself. It's your AIDs, stop raping the rest of BSN and just skip off into the sunset with you're new clone. You can finally live slightly pissedly ever after.

[Cyonan]

The only animation that needs removing is Tech Armour detonation.

The N7 Destroyer and every kit with Tac Scan are more than fine right now and not in need of a buff. If you don't want to round a corner into death, I would suggest you bring the Geth Scanner so you can anticipate such things.

[Doctor Trick]

I may be wrong, but the point of Tac Scanning a minion / mook / meat shield, would be to get the AoE scan? Not really for any extra damage.

As for the animations, I feel Tac Scan could be shortened a bit. But it doesn't really bother me, how it is now.

Modifié par Doctor Trick, 02 septembre 2013 - 08:48 .

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

The animations are quick enough for me as they are now.

[Alfonsedode]

So nobody us telling how you cancel those... and it doesnt seem reliable anyway ?

[robarcool]

I just came to ask Err Koots where that avatar is from.

[BridgeBurner]

Cyonan wrote...

The only animation that needs removing is Tech Armour detonation.

The N7 Destroyer and every kit with Tac Scan are more than fine right now and not in need of a buff. If you don't want to round a corner into death, I would suggest you bring the Geth Scanner so you can anticipate such things.

How do you deal with 35 Praetorians? Tech armour.

How do you deal with a bazillion swarmers? Tech armour.

[Maurader Sackboy]

No dodge characters just aren't as fun for me. Only one I like is the Jugg (unlike the Destroyer, he can take plenty of abuse). So I just don't play the Destroyer much. When I do play him, I don't toggle DM off/on except if I've got to deliver the package. Never understood why the stats showed him as the most played character? Couldn't be that many missile glitchers!

Tac scan I've not decided (sometimes I spec out of it entirely).

[Cyonan]

Maurader Sackboy wrote...

No dodge characters just aren't as fun for me. Only one I like is the Jugg (unlike the Destroyer, he can take plenty of abuse). So I just don't play the Destroyer much. When I do play him, I don't toggle DM off/on except if I've got to deliver the package. Never understood why the stats showed him as the most played character? Couldn't be that many missile glitchers!

Tac scan I've not decided (sometimes I spec out of it entirely).

Some of it is missile glitchers, though a lot of it is that he's an incredibly powerful weapons user even without the ability to dodge.

Plus, immunity to stagger is a pretty good thing to have against the Geth.

[lightswitch]

I don't think Tac Scan really needs any improvement, but it would be a lot more fun if it were implemented differently. Besides, it doesn't stack up all that well against Recon Mine IMO.

Specifically I would keep the casting animation, but change rank six area scan so that it actually applies the scan to every target it in the radius.

This would probably require a balancing nerf of some sort. You could just increase the cooldown but long cooldown powers suck and this would barely affect the MQI while hurting the QMS and QME much more. So do something like switching the base debuff value (15%) with the rank six debuff (10%). So you'd get either a really good wallhack with a decent debuff (17.5% either weapon or power damage), or a really good debuff (32.5%).

Another option would be to change it so that the scan hops between targets when they die for the entire duration of the power like Dark Channel. I'd make this a rank 4 option; change the 7.5% debuff so it applies to weapon and power damage, and make the hop the second option.

Modifié par lightswitch, 02 septembre 2013 - 11:15 .

[cato potato]

I read the title of this thread and expected some joke about how OP Hunter mode is......I was very wrong.
OT: I don't think either of those powers really needs much in the way of adjustments - I almost never turn off Devestator mode and the animation for Tactical scan doesn't bother me.